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    Discuss the Baltimore Ravens... I'll start with this little theory -

    I'm sure all of you by now, know that Anquan Boldin is a Raven and Ozzie & Co. gave up a 3rd and 4th to get him.

    With that being said, we all know how much DeCosta and Newsome love their draft picks and I know it must be killing them to not have a 3rd and 4th in such a DEEP DEEP draft class, so here's what I think they should do -

    Now that we filled our biggest, most glaring need(WR) it allows us to go BPA, but say that nobody left at 25 is appealing to the Ravens, what if they were to trade down into the early to mid second round picks and acquire a 3rd or 4th in the process? I'd love for them to do that.

    Like most of the Raven fans here, I'm pretty high on Demaryius Thomas, but I don't think he's worth the #25th overall, but if we were to trade down, and get a 3rd or 4th I think it would be a great move for the Ravens, get back some of the picks they lost and STILL get a WR with loads of potential.

    I think a trade down is definitely a possibility this year, since we have so few picks, look out for it on draft day and don't rule it out.

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    Ive a feeling that some of the RFAs will be moved for mid round picks. I can see Dawan Landry being sent to Seattle for a 3rd, as discussed before.

    Personally, Im of the mind that the team isnt deep enough to be passing up a premier talent at 25, but I wouldnt be shocked to see us trade back. Id rather see us use the pick on someone though.
    Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
    The APS is strong in this one.
    Originally posted by killxswitch
    Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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    • #3
      rotoworld said Jared Gaither might be able to be had for less than a 1st, would you think they'd take pick 41 for him? or would you take #9 for him and pick 25? thx.
      Last edited by redbills; 03-07-2010, 02:31 PM.

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      • #4
        Id be very upset to see Gaither go, but we are more then capable of replacing him. Oher arguably outplayed him on the left side this year, and we know Yanda can kick out to RT and play consistently there. That said, it isnt ideal, and if we do move Gaither, I would absolutely want a first back for him, as hes better then any OT prospect in this class.

        If we were able to get 9 for Gaither and 25, I think we would have to consider it. There is a chance Dez Bryant would be there, and adding Dez and Q in the same offseason could really do some damage. Perhaps even Haden would be an option there, or god forbid Eric Berry. Berry and Reed in the same secondary would be deadly.
        Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
        The APS is strong in this one.
        Originally posted by killxswitch
        Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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        • #5
          I really don't think Gaither is going anywhere this off-season, and definitely not for anything less than a first. We aren't in a position to replace Oher on the right side if he's gone. Yanda can play RT, but he's pretty slow-footed for the position and he is far better off inside at guard. Same with Cousins, but he probably just plain sucks. I could see us considering a high-ish first round pick, but probably not just a swap. Not worth it IMO, not at all.

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          • #6
            the 49er's and Seahawks are both interested in Jared Gaither and I wouldn't mind giving him up for their first rounders but

            Indianapolis and Dallas are also interested, but I'd rather keep Gaither than take their first rounders. They are in the late 20's and I doubt we could find Gaither's replacement.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BmoreBlackByrdz View Post
              the 49er's and Seahawks are both interested in Jared Gaither and I wouldn't mind giving him up for their first rounders but

              Indianapolis and Dallas are also interested, but I'd rather keep Gaither than take their first rounders. They are in the late 20's and I doubt we could find Gaither's replacement.
              Ummm.....I think he'll do.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BmoreBlackByrdz View Post
                the 49er's and Seahawks are both interested in Jared Gaither and I wouldn't mind giving him up for their first rounders but

                Indianapolis and Dallas are also interested, but I'd rather keep Gaither than take their first rounders. They are in the late 20's and I doubt we could find Gaither's replacement.
                So that would be what? 6 or 13?

                I think if its for pick 6, we should absolutely do it. Thats Dez Bryant or Joe Haden.
                Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
                The APS is strong in this one.
                Originally posted by killxswitch
                Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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                • #9
                  Currently, were in a perfect position to draft the BPA. I'm mocking Kyle Wilson to the Ravens right now but any of the following guys I would be pleased with.

                  -Kyle Wilson
                  -Carlos Dunlap
                  - Brandon Graham
                  -Jared Odgrick
                  -Jermaine Gresham

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                  • #10
                    Bannan signed w/ Broncoes, we gotta get DT depth this draft

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TACKLE View Post
                      Ummm.....I think he'll do.

                      Yes, but who then plays the right side? In this day and age the passing game is far more important, which leads to teams trying to get very good pass-rushers. There are already two teams in the division that have pretty damn good rushers on both sides of the line, the Bengals and the Steelers. Yanda would not do well full-time on the outside, nor should we put Cousins there (guard or he just sucks). We could take another tackle with the pick we get, but why? Gaither's already young and doesn't need replacing. Pay the man, if you;re good you;ll eventually get a big contract.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by coordinator0 View Post
                        Yes, but who then plays the right side? In this day and age the passing game is far more important, which leads to teams trying to get very good pass-rushers. There are already two teams in the division that have pretty damn good rushers on both sides of the line, the Bengals and the Steelers. Yanda would not do well full-time on the outside, nor should we put Cousins there (guard or he just sucks). We could take another tackle with the pick we get, but why? Gaither's already young and doesn't need replacing. Pay the man, if you;re good you;ll eventually get a big contract.
                        I totally agree about keeping Gaither around but we are exploring the idea of "what if he leaves".

                        If for some reason Gaither leaves and we get a 1st round pick in exchange, it is not necessarily a pressing need to address the RT hole. with that first round pick. There will be no value for a RT at that spot. Possibly Bruce Campbell but Campbell is a poor-man's Gaither and is a horrendous run blocker who would not be suited on the right-side. Ducasse? Where's the value. The situation just doesn't workout for us to feel that the value is worth taking a RT. You have to consider that if the organization felt comfortable letting Gaither go, then they either then they probably would feel comfortable with OT situation without him.

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                        • #13
                          Where did I say that we would take one? I might have worded it poorly but that's not what I meant. Like you said there isn't really anybody in the first that seems like they could play both sides (and yes if Gaither goes Oher will no doubt be the LT so taking another wouldn't make sense). Trent Williams could do it though. Honestly I'm not sure if we would be interested in a pick in the 10-15 range. There's a few defensive lineman that we might be interested in, but they're mostly defensive ends and I'm not sure if that's what we're looking for. Don't think that Bryant or Haden will be there.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by coordinator0 View Post
                            Where did I say that we would take one? I might have worded it poorly but that's not what I meant. Like you said there isn't really anybody in the first that seems like they could play both sides (and yes if Gaither goes Oher will no doubt be the LT so taking another wouldn't make sense). Trent Williams could do it though. Honestly I'm not sure if we would be interested in a pick in the 10-15 range. There's a few defensive lineman that we might be interested in, but they're mostly defensive ends and I'm not sure if that's what we're looking for. Don't think that Bryant or Haden will be there.
                            Sorry, I was more referencing BmoreBlackByrdz post that I replied with the Michael Oher pic. I know you never said we should take a RT in the late 1st. I was stating that we have Gaither's replacement and finding Oher's replacement is a of a lot lesser value. With that being said, if we were in the 10-15 range, I would certainly be wiling to ake a guy like Anthony Dais and Trent Williams especially with having to face Woodley/Harrison at least twice a year.

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                            • #15
                              We are forgetting a major piece of the puzzle here. Brandon Marshall, Seattle has 2 first round picks and they are looking at Brandon Marshall as well. If they make a trade its going to be sending one of the 1st rd picks there. I can't see them giving up both picks for Gaither and Marshall when the draft is so deep at both positions?

                              If we got a #2 for Gaither from Seattle I would be surprised. Don't get me wrong I would LOVE to get a TOP 15 pick (either one of Seattle's picks) then we could draft 2 great prospects to come in next year by essentially losing our RT (because we can move Oher to LT easily) I think we could do ourselves better by staying put at #25 and drafting the BPA or moving up at the last minute to dive on the guy that inevitably falls in the 1st much like Oher, Suggs, Reed, Lewis all did when we drafted them.

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