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  • I've watched the Ravens with interest the past few years, I'm a Panther fan but I've always admired the Ravens defense and am a huge Ray Rice fan going back to his college days at Rutgers.

    I have to he honest, I don't understand what offensive philosophy Cam is going for is. I don't understand how you have Ray Rice and he touches the ball a total of 14 times (5 rushes, 8 catches, 1 pass attempt). Especially 5 rushing attempts when he's averaging 5.4 ypc.

    I understand that you guys were playing from behind pretty much the entire game, but the lead was never more than 15 I believe...and that was early in the 3rd quarter. Seems a tad early to just totally abandon the running game IMO.

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    • Originally posted by JPF View Post
      I've watched the Ravens with interest the past few years, I'm a Panther fan but I've always admired the Ravens defense and am a huge Ray Rice fan going back to his college days at Rutgers.

      I have to he honest, I don't understand what offensive philosophy Cam is going for is. I don't understand how you have Ray Rice and he touches the ball a total of 14 times (5 rushes, 8 catches, 1 pass attempt). Especially 5 rushing attempts when he's averaging 5.4 ypc.

      I understand that you guys were playing from behind pretty much the entire game, but the lead was never more than 15 I believe...and that was early in the 3rd quarter. Seems a tad early to just totally abandon the running game IMO.
      Your not wrong.

      We often find ourselves asking similar questions. The sad thing is that I could see this team being great with a better coaching staff. Not that it isn't great now, but I feel it could be better.

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      • Another thing that ticks me off is why isnt Tandon Doss seing the field? Joe Flacco called him his favorite mid round WR prospect. Its not like LaQuan Williams is tearing it up as the #3 WR. Put Doss in see if he has chemistry with Flacco.

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        • If we stuck to using more 3-4 sets in the future then Poe wouldn't be a bad option. If we continue to use a variety of fronts then I think we would be better served getting a player like Winn. Of course we do have the depth and we could just rotate McPhee in to use in our multiple sets if we do draft Poe.

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          • Originally posted by coordinator0 View Post
            If we stuck to using more 3-4 sets in the future then Poe wouldn't be a bad option. If we continue to use a variety of fronts then I think we would be better served getting a player like Winn. Of course we do have the depth and we could just rotate McPhee in to use in our multiple sets if we do draft Poe.
            Yeah that's kind of what I had in mind when I brought up Poe's name.

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            • I like Arthur Jones.

              Really no need to draft any d-lineman.

              Jones is a good 2 down lineman, and McPhee is an excellent 3rd down pass-rusher.

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              • Originally posted by coordinator0
                I think where our opinions differ the most is that you would look at drafting a DE early as drafting a backup where I would look at it as drafting a starter. That's something I understand completely and I would probably feel the same way if I thought we were taking a depth guy early on. Of course the DL is probably the most rotated group in football so depth there is extremely important.
                I actually somewhat agree with you, what I should have said was that drafting one in the first, even if he is better than our guys and they remain backups, we might have what is a serviceable starter as a back up when we could use the pick somewhere else for a larger net upgrade.


                Originally posted by TACKLE
                I didn't realize that Redding was a free agent after this year. That definitely changes things. Although personally I'd feel comfortable with either Art or Pernell starting, it doesn't mean the front office will want to start a largely unproven 5th round pick. Though even if he's not starter, I like Pernell as a spark plug rotational player. Regardless we'll, need depth.

                The two guys I'd want if we went 5-tech early would be either Billy Winn from Boise who is a prototype 5-tech in every way and has play 34 DE, 43 DE and 43 DT. The other name might surprise people a little but Dontari Poe. He's a guy who I've been very high on since last season. People peg him as a NT right away but he is much more dynamic than he gets credit for and has actually played a lot of 5-tech and 3-tech at Memphis. Obviously I would never put him on the same level, but athletically, Poe may be the closet player I've seen to Ngata. Ngata-Cody-Poe together would be an immovable object. It would be a very intriguing at very least.
                I like the Poe Idea. Imagining Poe Cody and Ngata pushing the pocket is amazing, WHO WOULD THE DOUBLE TEAM, and imagine the gains in the run game
                Last edited by Sloopy; 11-17-2011, 08:15 PM.

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                • We are so loaded on dline its ridic. Brandon McKinnie is also a freaking beast but he rarely sees the field. I really like McPhee I believe he is roughly 280 right now I wonder if we will try to bulk him up to be a full time starter or keep him as a 3rd down specialist

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                  • With what we have at D-Line all I want to see is maybe a late round depth pick,try to get another McPhee. My number one priority is ILB then OG(Grubbs is gone) or OT.
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                    • Yes, while I like the Poe idea, it cannot be argued that a greater net improvement for the team could be gained elsewhere. Although if Poe were the BPA, Newsome might jump

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                      • Just in case anyone isn't following, TACKLE and I recently ran the Ravens in the Forum Mock. In a three round format, we landed Ohio State OT Mike Adams in the first and traded up in the second to grab USC DB TJ McDonald. We loved the draft, always love to hear opinions on these things.
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                        • Also, it looks like Ray Lewis is going to miss several weeks due to a toe injury. This is not good news.

                          http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack
                          Originally posted by Mr. Goosemahn
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                          Originally posted by killxswitch
                          Tears for Fears is better than whatever it is you happen to be thinking about right now.

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                          • Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                            Just in case anyone isn't following, TACKLE and I recently ran the Ravens in the Forum Mock. In a three round format, we landed Ohio State OT Mike Adams in the first and traded up in the second to grab USC DB TJ McDonald. We loved the draft, always love to hear opinions on these things.
                            Getting Adams would be great, LT is the position that needs to be addressed the most in my opinion. McDonald is a nice prospect but like I've said before I'm not in favor of going after a S high in the draft and I certainly wouldn't want to trade up to get one.

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                            • Ray Lewis was listed as questionable today. That is good I was nervous he may miss a couple weeks. Him being questionable makes me think he may miss the bengals game at most. Keep your fingers crossed.



                              BTW Lee Evans is questionable as well. Hopefully he gets on the field it would be good to have him opposite of Smith w/ Boldin in the slot.



                              BTW I hope this is the game Jimmy Smith actually gets legit playing time. I think he would be our best CB already once his ankle is 100%

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                              • Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                                Just in case anyone isn't following, TACKLE and I recently ran the Ravens in the Forum Mock. In a three round format, we landed Ohio State OT Mike Adams in the first and traded up in the second to grab USC DB TJ McDonald. We loved the draft, always love to hear opinions on these things.
                                Love the first pick, meh on the 2nd pick, I like McDonald as a player but I wouldn't be too happy about trading up to get a S. All and all not bad though.

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