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    Steelers HOF Rod Woodson admitted Reed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Troy P

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    • Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCN_y...eature=related



      Steelers HOF Rod Woodson admitted Reed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Troy P
      Ugh I'm tired of this nonsense. Rod said it best, Troy is the more complete Safety based on his work around the line of scrimmage but isn't as fluid in coverage. Ed Reed is the best, when healthy, because he is just out of this world in what he can do to disrupt the best QB's in this game and when he gets the ball in his hands he's always a threat to go to the house.

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      Originally posted by Job
      On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
      Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

      So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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      • It's clear we need him back too. Sure, were the #1 ranked pass defense, but we have ZERO interceptions.. that's unheard of from a Baltimore Ravens defense.

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        • yea but our pass D is #1 that is impressive.

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          • Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
            yea but our pass D is #1 that is impressive.
            Really?

            Mark Sanchez - Nobody understands the Jets gameplan from that game


            Carson Palmer - well documented that he's just not a very good QB


            Seneca Wallace - needs no explanation


            Our pass D is #1 almost by default because frankly nothing I've seen has been that impressive. We don't pressure the QB effectively, we're not creating turnovers, we are basically lucky that the schedule started cupcake-esque.

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            Originally posted by Job
            On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
            Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

            So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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            • Originally posted by BigDawg819 View Post
              Really?

              Mark Sanchez - Nobody understands the Jets gameplan from that game


              Carson Palmer - well documented that he's just not a very good QB


              Seneca Wallace - needs no explanation


              Our pass D is #1 almost by default because frankly nothing I've seen has been that impressive. We don't pressure the QB effectively, we're not creating turnovers, we are basically lucky that the schedule started cupcake-esque.
              It is impressive. Considering how everyone was saying that our secondary was going to be the Achilles heel of this team, when it's actually held it's own against names like Ocho Cinco, Braylon Edwards, Owens, Gresham, Shipley, Keller, and Massaquoi.

              Adding Wilson was a great move, Carr is playing well, and Fabian has really stepped up in place of Foxworth. It's not the secondary's fault that there is no pressure, you should be giving them credit for holding strong w/ the lack of pressure, not blaming them for it.

              Sure, they haven't got any interceptions, but it's not easy when QB's have all day to throw.

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              • at least Suggs has improved form last year.

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                • Originally posted by BmoreBlackByrdz View Post
                  It is impressive. Considering how everyone was saying that our secondary was going to be the Achilles heel of this team, when it's actually held it's own against names like Ocho Cinco, Braylon Edwards, Owens, Gresham, Shipley, Keller, and Massaquoi.

                  Adding Wilson was a great move, Carr is playing well, and Fabian has really stepped up in place of Foxworth. It's not the secondary's fault that there is no pressure, you should be giving them credit for holding strong w/ the lack of pressure, not blaming them for it.

                  Sure, they haven't got any interceptions, but it's not easy when QB's have all day to throw.
                  Sorry but you can't have it both ways. Either the Defense is a whole unit or its not.

                  Sure the secondary is better then we expected, but without pressure up front they're merits aren't that impressive.

                  The Defense as a whole isn't as good as certain stats would indicate, and thats why stats are an absolute in determining things. Take tomorrow for example, I don't expect Batch to have a great day passing, but is that because I think our secondary is that formidable? No its because I expect the Steelers' to run the ball down our throats and rely on their superior performing defense. So while the secondary's numbers will have a good day, that doesn't mean the Defense as a whole will have a good day.


                  You have to look at the whole picture, and not just certain edges.

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                  Originally posted by Job
                  On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
                  Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

                  So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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                  • Originally posted by BigDawg819 View Post
                    Sure the secondary is better then we expected, but without pressure up front they're merits aren't that impressive.

                    .


                    ??????????????


                    W/o pressure and our secondary playing this well, being #1 overall w/ no pressure is impressive. Even if we faced crappy QBs. No one would have predicted we were #1 overall even if we knew we would face these kind of QBs.

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                    • Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
                      ??????????????


                      W/o pressure and our secondary playing this well, being #1 overall w/ no pressure is impressive. Even if we faced crappy QBs. No one would have predicted we were #1 overall even if we knew we would face these kind of QBs.

                      We've played crappy QB's so far so how is holding crappy QB's to crappy stats impressive?

                      They let Seneca ******* Wallace go 18-21 for 141 yards and NO TURNOVERS!

                      That is not impressive, a good defense is supposed to stop garbage QB's and when they don't get turnovers and sacks then frankly they didn't do a great job.

                      Look at the numbers that the Steelers' Defense is putting up on the board:

                      Sacks
                      Pressures
                      Forced Fumbles
                      Interceptions


                      They are doing all the things WE ARE NOT DOING! They are impressive on Defense and in comparison our Defense hasn't done dick.

                      Wake up

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                      Originally posted by Job
                      On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
                      Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

                      So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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                      • Fair points, but also remember you can only cover for so long. CLE Has pieces on the oline and Wallace can move. COmbine that w/ a sketchy pass rush Senaca will have time.

                        But he averaged 5.9 yards per pass and that is nothing. Our D is more of a give them the short but prevent the big play. Granted I dont think this D best fits our players but I feel that they are playing well

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                        • Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
                          Fair points, but also remember you can only cover for so long. CLE Has pieces on the oline and Wallace can move. COmbine that w/ a sketchy pass rush Senaca will have time.

                          But he averaged 5.9 yards per pass and that is nothing. Our D is more of a give them the short but prevent the big play. Granted I dont think this D best fits our players but I feel that they are playing well
                          Playing well is a fair assessment, but that #1 ranking is not impressive once you take a closer look at it.

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                          Originally posted by Job
                          On another note, Nicklas Backstrom is amazingly good.
                          Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

                          So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!

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                          • Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
                            Fair points, but also remember you can only cover for so long. CLE Has pieces on the oline and Wallace can move. COmbine that w/ a sketchy pass rush Senaca will have time.

                            But he averaged 5.9 yards per pass and that is nothing. Our D is more of a give them the short but prevent the big play. Granted I dont think this D best fits our players but I feel that they are playing well
                            Nah dude, our defense sucks, we're just ranked #1 vs. the pass cause we've played ****** QB's.. that's all.

                            We're also ranked #1 in total yards but that doesn't mean anything either, we've only played the 2-1 Bengals, the 2-1 Jets, and the 0-3 Browns.


                            We have no pass rush, which obviously means our defensive backfield sucks too. Our defense should actually be more towards the bottom half of the league, IDK why we're ranked #1.

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                            • bottom half of the league come on.


                              Our pass rush improved from last year, Carr has improved a lot. Washington has gotten more consistent. Webb has another year to learn the system and watch film.


                              I dont think we will be like the 2000-2008 elite D but we will probably be in the 3-8 range of defense.

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                              • Originally posted by Ravens1991 View Post
                                bottom half of the league come on.


                                Our pass rush improved from last year, Carr has improved a lot. Washington has gotten more consistent. Webb has another year to learn the system and watch film.


                                I dont think we will be like the 2000-2008 elite D but we will probably be in the 3-8 range of defense.
                                I was being sarcastic. Obviously BigDawg is convinced we suck, so don't waste your time arguing with him

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