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    Just a thought... if we were to take, say, Bowe with our first, I think it would have to be a precursor to trading Mason. I mean the guy's already a borderline malcontent with his role now, imagine how he'd be losing another 20-30 balls or so.
    I know this has already been discussed, but with the possibility of Bowe or maybe even another WR, though he's the only one I'd want, slipping to us and more of us calling for that pick, the notion of Mason as trade bait has more weight to it. I'm curious as to what we could get for Mason, I think/hope maybe a third from a team like SD. Regardless, I'd be pretty receptive toward the idea of taking Bowe and shopping Mason. Bowe, if he were available at our pick, would likely be the best player available. Food for thought. Reactions?

  • #2
    I say take Bowe or Ginn and trade Mason for a 3rd if we can find a team to give that up (doubtful), or 4th rd pick.
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    • #3
      I have been preaching this for a few weeks now.. as Bowe would be a good pick I think that Ginn will be available and I think he would be a better pick, he would be able to come right in and make an impact on Special Teams...Mason though I think we keep him for one more season and then trade him next year...I think he will have a good value to a team looking for that veteran to help solidify young talent like Joe Horn is doing for the Falcons..

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ChefMike View Post
        I have been preaching this for a few weeks now.. as Bowe would be a good pick I think that Ginn will be available and I think he would be a better pick, he would be able to come right in and make an impact on Special Teams...Mason though I think we keep him for one more season and then trade him next year...I think he will have a good value to a team looking for that veteran to help solidify young talent like Joe Horn is doing for the Falcons..
        I think it would have to be this season. If Bowe (not a huge Ginn fan, and I think we already have someone with a very similar skill-set in Clayton) was drafted, you'd have to think he'd get at least 20 balls and those wouldn't be taken from anyone but Mason. As I said, if he's a borderline problem now, wait till that happens. Besides, his value can only depreciate after this season.

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        • #5
          I see your point but trading him would hurt our cap which is delicate as it is right now...but utilizing him this season and bringing along slowly the WR we draft then if we can trade him next off season then do so if not release him and not have to take the full cap hit in one season take over the life of what the contract would have been which would be just another 2 seasons..trading him would cause his signing bonus to be accelerated and take the hit all in one season...

          As far as Clayton and Ginn being similar I think they are very different Clayton is quick but Ginn is simply put a game breaker... he is greased lightening on the field with the ball in his hands..having he and D-Will playing behind Clayton would insane !! We would have QB's jumping at the chance to come here and throw to those WR's along with Heap !! Then couple that with McGhee in the backfield... scary..very scary !

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          • #6
            Personally I'd prefer Meachem over Bowe and I'm totally against getting rid of Mason.

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            • #7
              If we have a chance to get Ginn, IMO we have too.

              There aren't any players o our team offense or defense with his speed, and not too many in the league who have his speed either, he would really open our offense up.
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              • #8
                Ginn or Bowe INO are the only 2 we should look at. I wouldn't mind either of them if there is no OT availible.

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                • #9
                  I've been a fan of going WR for a while now. A WR is going to drop farther than he should (Ginn, Meachem, Bowe, or Jarrett) and I think we should take one. IMO they all compliment Williams and Clayton well. Robert Meachem is my favorite personally. If Ted Ginn is there we take cannot pass him hes a flat out playmaker.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BigDawg819 View Post
                    Personally I'd prefer Meachem over Bowe and I'm totally against getting rid of Mason.
                    1. Meachem
                    2. Bowe
                    3. Ginn
                    4. Jarrett
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                    • #11
                      I'd hate getting a receiver in the 1st.. soooo much. but if we had to get one I like meachem

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bennybee38 View Post
                        I'd hate getting a receiver in the 1st.. soooo much. but if we had to get one I like meachem
                        Its a total BPA move. Either we can reach for a need (which often turns out bad) or take the best player on the board and address the need when theres a player of that rounds value there. If Staleys off the board (which is highly likely at this point) then there is no reason for us to reach for the next best OT prospect which is likely to be a player with a mid-late 2nd round grade. With the abundance of quality WR's its likely a high caliber player will be at our pick that is worth more than a late first round pick but because of how things fall out he took a draft stock drop. Whether it is a WR or any other position I have been and will remain in full BPA mode. I want the best player possible reguardless of position. Asside from OT I dont see another glaring need on our team so lets take the best prospect and see how he develops. If Teddy Ginn takes a draft day plunge down the first round we would be fulls not to take him on potential alone.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by go_ravens94 View Post
                          1. Meachem
                          2. Bowe
                          3. Ginn
                          4. Jarrett
                          Mine would be:

                          1. Ten Ginn Jr.
                          2. Dwayne Bowe
                          3. Robert Meachem
                          4. Sidney Rice
                          5. Jarrett


                          But if we get Staely in rd 1 and take a WR in the mid rounds my list would be:

                          1. Aundrae Allison
                          2. David Clowney
                          3. Jordan Kent
                          4. Steve Breaston
                          5. Ryan Moore
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                          • #14
                            if it's ted ginn jr. at 29, i'd be ecstatic because he'd be amazing value and would electrify our offense and special teams. we'd get to see some exciting and creative play calling with him.

                            if it's jarrett, meachem, or bowe, i wouldn't be overly pleased, but i wouldn't be overly happy either. i think all 3 of those guys will at least be solid contributors, and i don't think you can ever have enough weapons.

                            if ginn is off the board, which he should be, the ideal situation for me would be a late rounder like david ball out of new hampshire, matt trannon out of michigan state, or mike walker out of central florida.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ChefMike View Post
                              I see your point but trading him would hurt our cap which is delicate as it is right now...but utilizing him this season and bringing along slowly the WR we draft then if we can trade him next off season then do so if not release him and not have to take the full cap hit in one season take over the life of what the contract would have been which would be just another 2 seasons..trading him would cause his signing bonus to be accelerated and take the hit all in one season...

                              As far as Clayton and Ginn being similar I think they are very different Clayton is quick but Ginn is simply put a game breaker... he is greased lightening on the field with the ball in his hands..having he and D-Will playing behind Clayton would insane !! We would have QB's jumping at the chance to come here and throw to those WR's along with Heap !! Then couple that with McGhee in the backfield... scary..very scary !
                              You have a good point about the cap implications but let me put it this way; either way we're getting something in return for Mason's cap number, whether it's through his production or through a draft pick. Me, personally, I'd rather take the draft pick and a smaller, more spread out cap hit if this scenario went down. I mean the guy's gone after next season anyways, why not take the hit now? Our situation will likely be worse next offseason.

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