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  • Originally posted by SuperKevin View Post
    He was on the list of 30 tryout players. He's the only black QB so it's him by default
    Ahh found the list:

    TE Cody Boyd – 6’8” 266 – Washington St.
    LB Derek Burrell – 6’1” 229 – Kent St.
    OL Ryan Considine – 6’4” 300 – Louisiana Tech
    RB Rashad Cummings – 5’8” 203 – North Greenville
    WR Jon Davis – 6’3” 210 – Azusa Pacific
    RB Mike Davis – 5’9” 202 – South Carolina
    DB Dante Dunn – 5’9” 186 – Wayne St.
    LB Solomon Elimimian – 5’11” 225 - Hawaii
    DE Ataefiok Etukeren – 6’3” 240 – Georgetown
    WR De’cody Fagg – 6’1” 211 – Florida St.
    WR Bradon Godfrey – 6’3” 201 – Utah
    RB Justice Hairston – 6’1” 225 – Central Conn. St.
    QB Cullen Harper – 6’2” 217 – Clemson
    DB Tyrrell Herbert – 6’0” 200 – Toledo
    TE Nate Lawrie – 6’6” 264 – Yale
    OL Joe Longacre – 6’4” 307 – Arizona
    OL Nick Marshman – 6’5” 358 – Virginia Tech
    K/P Richmond McGee – 6’4” 207 – Texas
    DE Jermaine McGhee – 6’2” 257 - Prairie View A&M
    LB Joe Mortensen – 6’0” 240 – Kansas
    WR Alonzo Phillips – 6’0” 190 – Florida International
    QB Daniel Polk – 6’1” 202 – Midwestern St.
    DB Erik Robinson – 5’11” 190 – Hawaii
    QB Gary Rogers – 6’5” 243 – Washington St.
    LS Garrison Sanborn – 6’0” 240 – Florida St.
    DE Daman Suggs – 6’2” 251 – Georgia Southern
    WR Dominique Thompson – 5’11” 206 – William & Mary
    DB Kyle Ward – 6’1” 198 – Louisiana-Lafayette
    RB Maurice Wells – 5’9” 190 – Ohio State
    DB Rob Wilson – 5’10” 211 – Miami-Ohio

    Very interesting to see Garrison Sanborn on the list. Was the second best LS coming out last year, behind Tim Bugg. I like Considine and Herbert as well. I remember Justise Hairston being an intriguing prospect, I think Fly liked him a lot Kevin, and he is a former 6th Round Pick



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    • Originally posted by fischbowl View Post
      Ahh found the list:

      TE Cody Boyd – 6’8” 266 – Washington St.
      LB Derek Burrell – 6’1” 229 – Kent St.
      OL Ryan Considine – 6’4” 300 – Louisiana Tech
      RB Rashad Cummings – 5’8” 203 – North Greenville
      WR Jon Davis – 6’3” 210 – Azusa Pacific
      RB Mike Davis – 5’9” 202 – South Carolina
      DB Dante Dunn – 5’9” 186 – Wayne St.
      LB Solomon Elimimian – 5’11” 225 - Hawaii
      DE Ataefiok Etukeren – 6’3” 240 – Georgetown
      WR De’cody Fagg – 6’1” 211 – Florida St.
      WR Bradon Godfrey – 6’3” 201 – Utah
      RB Justice Hairston – 6’1” 225 – Central Conn. St.
      QB Cullen Harper – 6’2” 217 – Clemson
      DB Tyrrell Herbert – 6’0” 200 – Toledo
      TE Nate Lawrie – 6’6” 264 – Yale
      OL Joe Longacre – 6’4” 307 – Arizona
      OL Nick Marshman – 6’5” 358 – Virginia Tech
      K/P Richmond McGee – 6’4” 207 – Texas
      DE Jermaine McGhee – 6’2” 257 - Prairie View A&M
      LB Joe Mortensen – 6’0” 240 – Kansas
      WR Alonzo Phillips – 6’0” 190 – Florida International
      QB Daniel Polk – 6’1” 202 – Midwestern St.
      DB Erik Robinson – 5’11” 190 – Hawaii
      QB Gary Rogers – 6’5” 243 – Washington St.
      LS Garrison Sanborn – 6’0” 240 – Florida St.
      DE Daman Suggs – 6’2” 251 – Georgia Southern
      WR Dominique Thompson – 5’11” 206 – William & Mary
      DB Kyle Ward – 6’1” 198 – Louisiana-Lafayette
      RB Maurice Wells – 5’9” 190 – Ohio State
      DB Rob Wilson – 5’10” 211 – Miami-Ohio

      Very interesting to see Garrison Sanborn on the list. Was the second best LS coming out last year, behind Tim Bugg. I like Considine and Herbert as well. I remember Justise Hairston being an intriguing prospect, I think Fly liked him a lot Kevin, and he is a former 6th Round Pick
      Hairston was a former Rutgers RB too. He was pretty solid

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      • Fagg is interesting in addition to the guys you mentioned
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        • Originally posted by SuperKevin View Post
          Hairston was a former Rutgers RB too. He was pretty solid
          6'1'', 225, 4.5 40 time apparently. Interesting sign, will have to do a lot to break Rhodes/Omon/Hall



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          • Originally posted by fischbowl View Post
            6'1'', 225, 4.5 40 time apparently. Interesting sign, will have to do a lot to break Rhodes/Omon/Hall
            Do any of you know anything about him?
            Or should I go ask scotty? :)


            Originally Posted by scottyboy
            my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused
            But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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            • Just to add a few of my comments regarding the Bills Draft:

              Round 1 (#11): Maybin, I love his professional demeanor. He is a classy player. He is not a three down player yet and his success will be greatly dependent upon when and how he is used this year. It's in the coaches hands now. With Schobel and Maybin on the ends greatly exposes the edges to running plays. Maybin's first steps are Javon Kearse quick, but he is still undeveloped, he doesn't currently have the inside moves to keep lineman off balance. I hope that his impact is much greater then what the majority of defensive ends have historically shown in their rookie years. I would have preferred OL here, but the draft unfolded as such to warrant the Maybin pick.

              Round 1 (#28) and 2 (#42): Wood and Levitre. Love the picks. Finally the Bills have addressed the offensive lines, early and often. This is several years too late, but finally they began working on the interior and love the intelligence level of the line to which all have also been described with having a mean streak. Relieved that Levitre was acquired without sacrificing future picks. This made the draft for me.

              Round 2 (#42): Byrd. The biggest problem I have with the Jairus Bird pick is what happened at the next pick. Not the selection of Everette Brown, but that San Francisco was able to get Carolina's first round pick in the 2010 draft for the second round pick and a fourth-rounder (111th overall). A Carolina team which is quarterbacked by Jake Delhomme. Jairus is a slower version of Malcolm Jenkins, and he is being converted to free safety. He has tremendous ball skills, is tough, but he ran so poorly leading up to the draft. Given that free safety, nor cornerback was a pressing need for the Bills, I would rather have had them use the opportunity to trade a second rounder and acquire a future first rounder. I would much rather have had the opportunity to select (or have picks to trade and acquire) a much better player today, in Eric Berry from Tennessee next year. Free Safety is just not viewed as a position of high demand in the NFL. The Bills made Super Bowls with Mark Kelso as their free safety.

              Round 4 (#121): Nelson. Love the pick. Great value. The end.

              Round 5 (#147): Nic Harris. Hate the pick. If they wanted someone like Cato June, why not just sign Cato June?! Harris' speed was bad and as a result is changing positions. I also question who and where he was going to get drafted because of his poor size, weight speed ratio for the safety and LB position. Furthermore, what makes me hate the pick the most is who was on the board, both Ingram and Casey. So we drafted Nelson, is there a problem to be deep at TE's who can work the seam? Develop Ingram like you are developing Harris. There is no competition at the TE roster spot, unlike the secondary. The three TE roster spots are already set in April! Houston already has Owen Daniels but essentially got a similar player by taking Casey. The Bills should have taken one of Ingram or Casey and hedge against Nelson and push all TE's on the roster.

              Round 6 & 7: The cornerbacks. Enough already! Are the Bills again showing their cards that they will not resign McGee and/or Youboty next year? They need to aggressively shop one or both if that is the case. The Bills need to stop the revolving door process, losing starting corners to be replaced with draft picks to be lost again. The vicious cycle needs to stop. That philosophy has shown to be a recipe for mediocrity. Contrary to what Jauron says, you can have enough cornerbacks when you are 5 deep and especially have enough when you can make a compelling argument that you are not even 5 deep on the offensive line. Having a secondary now made up of a #8, #11, a second rounder, a third rounder and two fourth rounders drafted in the last 4 years, not even including McGee another fourth rounder, is excessive in my opinion, especially when the team went 7 years without spending a first day pick on an offensive lineman.
              Last edited by Biscuit; 05-05-2009, 10:32 AM.

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              • We signed Sanborn!! Rejoice. Neill's days could be coming to an end...

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                • Originally posted by art vandelay View Post
                  We signed Sanborn!! Rejoice. Neill's days could be coming to an end...
                  Me......




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                  • jizzed in his pants.....
                    When I eat, it is the food that is scared.

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                    • Aaron Maybin better work out because I'm going to be mad if we wasted a 1st rounder on him this year when there is an amazing DE class in 2010.

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                      • Originally posted by SuperKevin View Post
                        Aaron Maybin better work out because I'm going to be mad if we wasted a 1st rounder on him this year when there is an amazing DE class in 2010.
                        I agree, next years class is amazing. That said, I really think this team wants to make a bigtime run at the playoffs this year (idk if they can, but that seems to be the goal). If that is the plan, we absolutely needed to address our pass rush because if you cant get to the QB, you make life way harder on everyone on D. Aaron Maybin was the best pure pass rusher in the draft (not best DE imo, but best pass rusher) and therefore he was the fit. Now, I think he is going to have a tough time being a 3 down player with his size (altho he has showed some serious dedication with the weight gain), but he should be an absolute terror off the edge on third down (his first step is out of this world). There is no question our D was in desperate need of that. Now, the question is.....if that is all you get out of the #11 draft choice, is it good enough? I don't know.....I guess it depends just how good he is in that situation. You would of course prefer a guy that can go out there every down, but football is a situational game and a dynamic pass rusher on 3rd down is arguably the most critical situational defensive aspect of an NFL game. If he can be that terror on 3rd down, I personally would be content with the pick.....if he grows into a 3 down player it is one for the ages because that really is the only reason he fell.....that first step is special. I guess we just need to wait and see......like in all cases with the draft. Hopefully we find out sooner rather than later and he starts by flattening out Tom Brady week one on MNF.
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                        • [QUOTE=Rob S;1652667]I agree, next years class is amazing. That said, I really think this team wants to make a bigtime run at the playoffs this year (idk if they can, but that seems to be the goal).

                          If they were serious about any attempt at a run, they pay Peters and keep him happy. I'd rate our OL as pretty bad without Peters and I cannot see how they can make a significant run, in fact, I think they have serious problems winning 7 games again. What good is it signing Owens if Edwards is running for his life and has no time to throw the ball. Peters was also a solid run blocker and his loss will affect Lynch as well.
                          Teams just NEVER get rid of their LT's unless age is a factor and Buffalo's unwillingness to keep Peters happy, leaves a huge hole in the OL and you don't make playoff runs operating this way.
                          And proud of it!!!

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                          • [QUOTE=Iamcanadian;1652860]
                            Originally posted by Rob S View Post
                            I agree, next years class is amazing. That said, I really think this team wants to make a bigtime run at the playoffs this year (idk if they can, but that seems to be the goal).

                            If they were serious about any attempt at a run, they pay Peters and keep him happy. I'd rate our OL as pretty bad without Peters and I cannot see how they can make a significant run, in fact, I think they have serious problems winning 7 games again. What good is it signing Owens if Edwards is running for his life and has no time to throw the ball. Peters was also a solid run blocker and his loss will affect Lynch as well.
                            Teams just NEVER get rid of their LT's unless age is a factor and Buffalo's unwillingness to keep Peters happy, leaves a huge hole in the OL and you don't make playoff runs operating this way.
                            I am sure they wanted to keep Peters, but in the long run you dont pay a guy as the best LT in the league when you dont think he is: its simple. Just because they want to make a run doesnt mean they lock themselves into what could be one of the worst contracts in football if Peters plays like he did last year. Sorry, I'm not buying the Peters argument. I think making the playoffs is an immediate goal for the Bills (that is pretty clear with the TO signing) and I think they wanted to get Peters back. The fact is, whether winning now is your goal or not, you can't justify paying top LT money to someone you don't believe was going to play up to it, especially Buffalo where money is at a premium. They must have not been high on Peters as a top 3 LT in the NFL and if that is there assessment, fine: it was the right move regardless of their goals.

                            ***To clear it up: I am in no way saying we will be better without Peters, we won't. However, I am saying that regardless of what a teams goal is, some decisions have too high of a catastrophic potential to make even when they fit your goals nicely. I think the Bills clearly felt this was one of them when they combined Peters' play last year and his attitude.
                            Last edited by Rob S; 05-08-2009, 08:58 AM.
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                            • I'll admit we'll likely take a step back this year with the possibility of having 5 new starters on the OL. My only hope is that they don't blame the issues on Edwards(even though I don't think he's a franchise QB) because then we'll have to start all over again in 2010.

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                              • I'm really impressed with Maybin as a person and his first step but my expectations are low for him. He is after all a defensive end and rookie defensive ends just don't have a significant impact year one. His speed will eventually be negated when teams see what he does and scheme against it. It will be his ability to develop inside moves to keep OL off balance is what will truly make him an excellent pass rusher. If he can develop it quickly as a rookie, he will have a significant impact year one. Coaching will have to put him in the right places at the right time since he is in a 4-3, and not an OLB in a 3-4. If he and Schobel are in at the same time, the edges are exposed for rushes.

                                I do not like that Ellis, if he does not emerge, is a wasted third rounder. Right now the RDE is three deep with Maybin, Schobel and Ellis. If Ellis can develop into at least the back-up to Maybin making Schobel and his contract expendable, great.

                                What I like about the 2010 draft is that there are DEs and DTs that are stout and can rush the passer (Dunlap, Griffen, Hardy, Graham etc.), therefore Buffalo should target a LDE in the draft next year to finally replace Kelsay (and his contract) and Denney who is a free agent. Johnson can be the depth and/or transition.

                                Furthermore, it's not like Buffalo plays in a controlled environment (like a dome). Speed in games like the one in Cleveland two years ago or the last game against the Patriots in the Wind Bowl gets negated when teams don't throw and pound the ball. Buffalo plays games, and if fortunate enough to make the playoffs, play games in inclement weather. Speed and quickness combined with technique and stoutness is what is ideal for a defensive end in Buffalo.
                                Last edited by Biscuit; 05-08-2009, 09:17 AM.

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