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  • Originally posted by stephenson86 View Post
    yeh man majorly, seeing as i wrote it based on not a lot but rumblings on here and my own knowledge of the Bills, helps as there are deff a few areas I need to tweak for their factual merit. really appreciate the help.
    No problem, I neglected to mention Antonio Coleman as an undrafted free agent at OLB, 2 time all SEC, and 1 time SEC defender of the year. He has a real shot at making the roster, at least the practice team, and is an interesting prospect for the Bills.
    "It must be contract year!"

    Deion Sanders

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    • I might add in a little section about him, called future watch or something.

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      • I was just wondering who would be your starters on offense and defense, who would make your 53 man roster, and who would be your 8 practice squad players? Heres mine, starters 1st, 2nd team next and so on... Plus my favorite group the "Piss-off" list.

        Offense
        QB - Brian Brohm, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trent Edwards (P.S. Levi Brown)
        RB - Fred Jackson, C.J. Spiller, Joique Bell
        FB - Corey McIntyre
        TE - Shawn Nelson, Derek Schouman, Michael Matthews
        WR - Lee Evans, Marcus Easley (P.S. David Nelson)
        WR - James Hardy, Steve Johnson (P.S. Naaman Roosevelt)
        Slot WR - Roscoe Parrish
        LT - Jamon Meredith, Demetrius Bell, Ed Wang
        LG - Andy Levitre, Cordaro Howard
        C - Geoff Hangartner, Christian Gaddis
        RG - Eric Wood (Properly Healed), Kyle Calloway
        RT - Andre Ramsey, Cornell Green (P.S. Jason Watkins)

        "Piss-off" Kirk Chambers (Finally...), Marshawn Lynch (4th rounder and he's anyones).
        Anyone else who did not make the cut, we wish you only the best.

        Defense
        NT - Tourell Troup, Kyle Williams (P.S. Lonnie Harvey)
        DE (3-Tech.) Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson
        DE (5 - Tech.) Alex Carrington, Marcus Stroud
        ILB - Paul Posluszny, Kawika Mitchell
        ILB - Arthur Moats, Andra Davis
        OLB - Aaron Maybin, Danny Batten, Keith Ellison (P.S. Antonio Coleman)
        OLB - Chris Kelsay, Reggie Torbor
        CB - Leodis McKelvin, Drayton Florence
        CB - Terrence McGee, Reggie Corner, Ashton Youboty (P.S. Ellis Lankster)
        FS - Jarius Byrd, Donte Whitner (P.S. Brett Johnson)
        SS - George Wilson, Bryan Scott

        "Piss-off" John McCargo (Proved he was a wasted pick, despite an occasional glimpse..)
        Everyone else, we wish you the best.

        Specialist
        K - Rian Lindell
        P - Brian Moorman
        L.S. - Garrison Sanborn
        "It must be contract year!"

        Deion Sanders

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        • What's with all of those rookies starting? I don't see it. Any of them, really. Troup might be sooner than later, but that's it.

          I really don't want to think about Andre Ramsey starting.

          And if anybody screams "piss off" to me, it's Ashton Youboty.

          Roscoe is such a disappointing WR. I know the new offense thinks they can use him as big weapon and he'll probably be the slot WR, but I'm not excited at the thought of it.

          Ellison has little place on this team, now, imo. Chris Ellis, maybe.

          Felton Huggins for #2 WR.

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          • Offense
            QB - Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Brohm
            RB - Fred Jackson, C.J. Spiller, Beast Mode
            FB - Corey McIntyre
            TE - Derek Schouman, Shawn Nelson, Jonathan Stupar
            WR - Lee Evans, Marcus Easley, Chad Jackson
            WR - James Hardy, Steve Johnson
            Slot WR - Roscoe Parrish
            LT - Jamon Meredith, Demetrius Bell, Ed Wang
            LG - Andy Levitre, Kirk Chambers
            C - Geoff Hangartner, E.Wood
            RG - Eric Wood, Kirk Chambers, Kyle Calloway
            RT - Cornell Green, Kirk Chambers, Kyle Calloway
            Defense
            NT - Kyle Williams, Tourell Troup
            DE Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson
            DE Marcus Stroud, Alex Carrington
            ILB - Paul Posluszny, Kawika Mitchell
            ILB - Andra Davis, Reggie Torbor, Arthur Moats
            OLB - Aaron Maybin, Danny Batten, Arthur Moats
            OLB - Chris Kelsay, Reggie Torbor
            CB - Leodis McKelvin, Drayton Florence, Ellis Lankster
            CB - Terrence McGee, Reggie Corner, Cary Harris
            FS - Jarius Byrd, Donte Whitner
            SS - George Wilson, Donte Whitner, Bryan Scott

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            • Originally posted by SuperMcgee View Post
              What's with all of those rookies starting? I don't see it. Any of them, really. Troup might be sooner than later, but that's it.

              I really don't want to think about Andre Ramsey starting.

              And if anybody screams "piss off" to me, it's Ashton Youboty.

              Roscoe is such a disappointing WR. I know the new offense thinks they can use him as big weapon and he'll probably be the slot WR, but I'm not excited at the thought of it.

              Ellison has little place on this team, now, imo. Chris Ellis, maybe.

              Felton Huggins for #2 WR.
              I think this team is in total rebuilding mode, I cant see them winning more than 6 games at best (IMO 3 is stretching it), and where does that get them? Starting veterans to win a max of six games nets us... The ninth pick in the draft, again... Plus young guys who can contribute down the road when the franchise is viable lose valuable experience... Why not get them the experience now, and see what you got?
              Brohm is essentially a rookie, who has not been invested in since he entered the league, and IMO has the most potential of any of the QB's on the roster at this point, why not see what the kid can do? He is the only long term solution (potentially) on the roster IMO, and if he does not work out, and the team is 3-13 (or worse) they land a top shelf QB to move forward with.
              Spiller and Bell see playing time, Spiller obviously drafted #9 has to see the field, and Bell is a good blocker, and has good vision, so as a third back is not a bad option, Lynch should be gone, although I see him hear next year... Meredith and Ramsey are in their in their second years, although Ramsey IMO is still essentially a rookie. Offensively though its mostly second year players, and a couple "rookie" types...
              Defensively I just dont see Williams as a run stuffing 3-4 NT, I dont see it... On third down however I think he could be a effective pass-rusher from the postion. Troup is the future, and there is not time like the present to see what you have, he was a second round pick and should be starting caliber. Carrington is more of a 5-tech than Stroud, who was not impressive last year controlling one gap, despite losing some weight and "working hard" this off-season is going to be 32 this year, and despite my belief that he can be effective is not part of the future here... Lets see what we have, start getting experience and use the third pick in the draft. Moats gets the nod for me over Davis and Mitchell will be 32 and 31 respectively this year, Davis is good on run downs, but Moats is far more athletic, better in coverage, and I believe will be an effective blitzer from the ILB postion than either backer. Mitchell is coming off an injury, and he has the size and solid attributes to fit the scheme, but I dont see him being part of the future either at this point. The secondary is set, so all in all there are only three true rookies starting, all defensively, and considering the scheme change and picks used to address the front seven, why not play them and let them develop, and see what they have? Ill give you Ramsey and Brohm are essentially rookies so that makes five... Essentially I am looking toward the future, despite my desire to win now, the realist in me says new GM, new coach, new offensive coordinator and offensive scheme, new defensive coordinator and defensive scheme, all means rebuild to me, and now is the time to start rebuilding toward the future, and playing veterans going 6-10, 7-9 or what ever does not help rebuild the team, and for a decade has not helped make the play-offs.
              As for Ramsey, I dont think he played any worse than any other tackle on the team last year, I like his size, the run blocking ability, and I thought he did very well pass blocking against ATL. He was a key to an excellent offense at Ball St. and I think will be a very good RT in the NFL. Green is going to be 34 before the season starts, and is a capable blocker, but is a penalty machine, and I cant help but wonder... Is he part of the future?? Chambers is garabge, and I would prefer Calloway get time in at guard and tackle...
              I almost put Youboty in the "Piss-off" category and will not put up a fight against anyone who does, but when healthy he is effective, and would be an excellent 5th corner for depth, even when healthy could be the best nickel corner on the team. Plus Lankster can be on the practice squad another year and is not lost...
              Parrish I am willing to give one more oppurtunity to, plus I still think he is one of the best punt returners in the league, however he officially goes on my "Piss-off" list if he disappoints this year.
              I thought hard about Ellis, and if they had not signed Torbor would have been on the "my" roster. I thought the same thing about Ellison myself, but his production at any position he has been asked to play since goining the team. I think he could be an effective OLB in the 3-4 for the time being, and offers versatility having experience throughout the linebacking core.
              I like Hugging myself, and would love to have him around, especially on special teams, but there just was not room, and if they could (I dont think they can) keep him on the practice squad I would have, it came down to him and Steve Johnson as my fifth WR.
              IMO this is the year to cut bait, trim the fat and rebuild completely.
              "It must be contract year!"

              Deion Sanders

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              • We just have very different ideas on developing rookies, respect to your veteran players, and playing to win the game.

                I still don't think you can justify Moats and Carrington. Both need time, and both are playing at positions of relative strength on this team.

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                • to much to read, but you don't just say "awh **** this year lets start all rookies", 1-You'll get killed every game and if so you'll be gone next year, 2-the vets would be pissed as hell they aren't playing just because they are older.

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                  • Just looking at the main page of the Bills website today made me think, despite the lack of success, how much I love this team and the players on it. How much I'd like to even further get away from the McGahees and Lynches of the world, how much I respect the guys like Fred Jackson and Kyle Williams. How Brian Moorman and Rian Lindell are best friends and great people. How silent studs Lee Evans and Aaron Schobel just go about their business. Character still counts for something, and I very much appreciate it.

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                    • Officially starting to crave football.

                      Bills2083, where are you!?

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                      • Only becoming the newest graduate of the honorable Kenmore West! But really, that was like two weeks ago



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                        • Ok fellas help me out...

                          I got to draft a reserve QB in my fantasy football league and the only ones available that might be starters are the Bills QBs.


                          So who do you think on your roster has the best chance of being the starter when the regular season opens up?

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                          • Still pretty hard to tell. Easiest thing to assume is that it won't be Fitzpatrick. If I had to pick who I think will be the starter, I'd say Edwards.

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                            • Originally posted by SuperMcgee View Post
                              Still pretty hard to tell. Easiest thing to assume is that it won't be Fitzpatrick. If I had to pick who I think will be the starter, I'd say Edwards.
                              same .

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                              • OMG GUYS! I almost bought an Ed Wang jersey of one of those Chinese jersey websites for like $20



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