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  • Well, season is over. I watched the Giants/Skins game and dear god is their defense terrible. How did we lose to them? Oh yea...60 yard Chris Cooley TD when the game should have been over because our safeties suck. : (

    I dont really give a **** if we win tomorrow or not. Just want to see some good football played, whether if its Delhomme coming out and proving that he doesnt suck or our 3rd stringers vs the Saints 3rd stringers

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    • Originally posted by SchizophrenicBatman
      yea we still have a chance

      Win vs the Aints
      Skins beat the Giants
      Bears beat the Packers
      Still using that gay ass 'Aints' thing? Wow, give me a break. Our backups almost still beat your starters today, simply pathetic.

      Big time Thank You to BoneKrusher!

      Who Dat Nation!

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      • And when our two teams went head to head earlier in the season in a game that mattered we won. Half our team is backups to begin with because we have the worst medical/conditioning staff in the NFL. The Saints are a nice story and all so have fun talking trash this year because they dont bother me at all. I'll actually be rooting for them to do well in the playoffs because of the feel good story + upholding the rep of the South. If it were the Falcons or Bucs though I'd be rooting for them to get blown out in the first game. Know why? Because they havent been joke teams throughout the history of our "rivalry." And yes I know you've won a few games h2h and even knocked us out of the playoffs a couple times but then again sweeping the series this year didnt do the Panthers much good, did it?

        I hope your team makes the most of the playoffs because winning the division wont be this easy next year. You guys got a bright future with Brees, Bush, Deuce and Colston so maybe I wont be dropping the "S" this time next year. Until then though, I'm content with going .500 being a massive disappointment for my team and the Saints winning the division being story of the year for you guys. A little touchy that you're set off by a dumb moniker in a Panthers thread, eh?

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        • Originally posted by saintsfan912
          Originally posted by SchizophrenicBatman
          yea we still have a chance

          Win vs the Aints
          Skins beat the Giants
          Bears beat the Packers
          Still using that cool ass 'Aints' thing? Wow, give me a break. Our backups almost still beat your starters today, simply pathetic.

          Not saying they are better, but the Panthers beat the Saints when both teams were playing their starters.

          Oh, and nice job replying to a post that is almost a week old.

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          • My father mentioned our 5-1 division record and I couldn't help but think what's the use for divisions in the NFL. If the Saints with a 4-2 division record can win the division, do we really need a division system? Just a little thought I had.

            Look ahead to the draft, where we will be at #14 and likely in the hunt for either a middle linebacker or safety. A guy that has gotten lost in the shuffle recently is Michael Griffin, but if you ever watch a Texas game you will hear his name on nearly 3/4 of the tackles in the game. The guy is literally all over the field for the Longhorns.

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            • NEW ORLEANS -- The Carolina Panthers crossed off two items from their offseason shopping lists Saturday, announcing new three-year contract extensions for running back Nick Goings and right tackle Jeremy Bridges.
              Bridges said last Thursday he had agreed to a new deal, and adding Goings to the mix keeps another of the Panthers versatile performers in house for the foreseeable future.

              "Nick's a guy who can help you in so many areas," general manager Marty Hurney said Saturday night.

              "He's smart, he's tough, he's dependable. He can play special teams, fullback, running back. He's done so much for us over the years.

              "We feel really fortunate we were able to keep both of them."

              The contracts greatly reduce the Panthers workload when it comes to their free agents.

              They're left with nine players eligible for unrestricted free agency, and only three of those are starters: Linebackers Chris Draft and Na'il Diggs and safety Shaun Williams.

              Of the remaining six, tackle Todd Fordham is likely finished here and it's extremely unlikely they'd bring cornerback Reggie Howard back after he left the team in midseason to attend to personal matters. Defensive tackle Kindal Moorehead's the best of the rest, with safety Colin Branch, linebacker Vinny Ciurciu and tight end Mike Seidman rounding out the list.

              The signings give the Panthers 47 players under contract through 2007 or beyond, indicating that this offseason will be about minor tinkering rather than drastic overhauls.

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              • If Reggie Howard is done here, depth at cornerback will be another need we'll have to address in the draft and free agency. I certainly wouldn't want to finish next season with guys like Christian Morton and Dion Byrum as our starters.

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                • CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers middle linebacker Dan Morgan said Monday he's been cleared to return to football next season despite multiple concussions.

                  Morgan suffered at least the fifth concussion of his career in the season opener against Atlanta and missed the rest of the season, putting his playing career in jeopardy.

                  But Morgan said he was in Pittsburgh last week, where he took numerous tests and a team of physicians led by concussion expert Dr. Mickey Collins gave him the OK to begin playing again during minicamps in the spring. Collins recommended in October that Morgan not return this season.

                  "It was real exciting. That was a great Christmas present, a late Christmas present," Morgan said Monday after the Panthers' final team meeting. "I felt great. I felt I was going to do real well and I went up there and did real well on all my testing. It ended up good. They cleared me and it felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders."

                  Morgan, the Panthers' first-round pick in 2001, suffered his first concussion as a pro in 2003. He missed four more games in 2004 with another concussion. He then suffered one in the preseason and another in the loss to Atlanta in Week 1 this year.

                  Studies have shown players with multiple concussions are more likely to suffer more concussions with less contact, so there were questions that Morgan may not be able to return again -- joining players such as Troy Aikman and Steve Young who had their careers cut short by multiple concussions.

                  But Morgan claims he's not hesitant about returning.

                  "Not at all. I feel fine and from the outside people are always going to draw their own conclusions about how I feel and what happened," Morgan said. "But I feel great. I've had a lot of time to heal up. I feel ready to play and I'm excited to come back next season."

                  The Panthers could desperately use a healthy Morgan. Carolina ended a disappointing 8-8 season Sunday that was filled with numerous injuries to key players. Chris Draft eventually replaced Morgan, but the entire linebackers unit struggled.

                  "It's been real difficult, especially when you want to be out there helping your team," Morgan said. "Seeing them struggle was hard, too. There's always next year and I'm going to come back next year better than ever."

                  The Panthers signed him to a five-year, $28 million contract before the 2005 season, a move criticized by many because of Morgan's history of injuries. He's missed 40 games in his six-year career.

                  The Panthers also had so much money tied to Morgan they let fellow linebacker Will Witherspoon leave via free agency to St. Louis last offseason.

                  But getting Morgan cleared was a bit of good news for Carolina as players packed up their belongings and headed home after a brief team meeting.

                  "It was the first thing I asked him and he said, 'Yes I'm cleared,"' safety Mike Minter said. "That's the greatest thing, seeing him healthy and being able to come back and play."

                  As Morgan left the stadium with a trash bag full of gear, he sounded confident he'd prove wrong critics who question whether he'll be able to stay on the field next season.

                  "They feel I'm healed up and I'm ready to go," Morgan said. "Obviously if they felt I would go out there and hurt myself they wouldn't have cleared me. I feel great. It's nothing that I'm worried about and I'm excited to get out there next year."
                  Looks like middle linebacker can be crossed off the list as a first-round need. It's sad, Dan Morgan has all the talent to be on the level of Brian Urlacher but he just can't seem to stay on the field for a complete season. Hopefully, his return will solidify our choice of a safety in the first round. We could use help at nearly every position on defense, but I don't think any position is more glaring of a weakness than safety.

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                  • Originally posted by SchizophrenicBatman
                    And when our two teams went head to head earlier in the season in a game that mattered we won. Half our team is backups to begin with because we have the worst medical/conditioning staff in the NFL. The Saints are a nice story and all so have fun talking trash this year because they dont bother me at all. I'll actually be rooting for them to do well in the playoffs because of the feel good story + upholding the rep of the South. If it were the Falcons or Bucs though I'd be rooting for them to get blown out in the first game. Know why? Because they havent been joke teams throughout the history of our "rivalry." And yes I know you've won a few games h2h and even knocked us out of the playoffs a couple times but then again sweeping the series this year didnt do the Panthers much good, did it?

                    I hope your team makes the most of the playoffs because winning the division wont be this easy next year. You guys got a bright future with Brees, Bush, Deuce and Colston so maybe I wont be dropping the "S" this time next year. Until then though, I'm content with going .500 being a massive disappointment for my team and the Saints winning the division being story of the year for you guys. A little touchy that you're set off by a dumb moniker in a Panthers thread, eh?
                    Its just old when people use that gay crap. Its all over the ESPN boards and it just gets old. But with Carolina, I am a huge Panther fan, just some of their fans are jackasses. (I like Caroina anytime they arent playing my Saints of course) I am like you, I hate Atlanta and Tampa and wish blowouts of them every week of the season. And why in the hell did they fire Mora, Vick is the one that should go. I know he sells tickets, electric player and everything but hes not a QB.

                    Big time Thank You to BoneKrusher!

                    Who Dat Nation!

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                    • Vick causes major problems for us whenever we play so I cant really agree there but I wouldnt have minded them keeping Mora since they were going nowhere with him as coach and Vick as QB. No hard feelings on that crap and I agree that using "Aints" is stupid but ah well. It was just kinda weird how you came in here looking for an argument.

                      I dont see how we have that many jackass fans...we have a bunch of bandwagoners every now and then but other than that most of our fans seem pretty mild mannered. Almost too mild if you ask me. If you ever go to a game at BoA you wont get much crap as an away team fan. Just like every team there's some jackasses, but I wouldnt say any more than normal.

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                      On Morgan, I wish we could restructure his contract like the Jets did with Pennington. We still need an OLB for next year but I bet the staff is going to splooge all over Anderson running over the Saints' third stringers in blitz packages and ignore how lost he looked in coverage and zone. I still want Willis but if they bank on Morgan (and they will) Desmond Bishop, or Harris, or whoever could be good depth if we let Draft go in FA. I like Tony Taylor as a midround pick for the outside too.

                      For some reason I dont see John Fox drafting a safety at pick #14 but I was a little skeptical he'd go RB in the first round too. I'm fine with us taking just about anything in round 1 besides a DE. McClover and Wallace look pretty good and a run stuffer could be picked up cheap in FA or late in the draft. Hell, Damione Lewis could play some DE too. Wouldnt mind Rucker back for another year or two but it looks like he's getting Muhammad'D this year

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                      • Another mid-round option would be Anthony Waters. He'll drop due to his injury this season, but he has the talent to be drafted in the first two rounds of the draft. Also, it can't hurt that he is a local product from Clemson.

                        I think the key will be to keep Chris Draft. If Dan Morgan is able to stay healthy, I'll take Draft at outside linebacker over the other options we have on the roster. The veteran presence will only help the development of both James Anderson and Thomas Davis. I think Anderson has alot of potential to develop into a solid Will Witherspoon-like linebacker for our team.

                        If that is the direction we choose to take, that would leave atleast the first two rounds open to address other positions. Future at quarterback, offensive line, cornerback, and safety seem to be the biggest weaknesses in my opinion.

                        We need a future at quarterback, without question. The only question is where do we look? JaMarcus Russell has the physical characteristics, but not the intangibles. Troy Smith has the intangibles, but not the physical characteristics. Drew Stanton has led his team to some great comebacks, but has also led them to great implosions. Kevin Kolb has the statistics, but he has played in a shotgun offense his entire football career. Every possible prospect has major question marks that will need to be answered.

                        Left Tackle - Travelle Wharton
                        Left Guard - Mike Wahle
                        Center - Justin Hartwig
                        Right Guard - Jeremy Bridges
                        Right Tackle - Jordan Gross

                        Pretty solid offensive line if everyone can remain healthy. Although with Bridges' performance at right tackle, Wharton could possibly move to guard and Gross would be kept at left tackle. Depth is needed regardless, especially at guard and left tackle. If injuries strike again, we don't need to have to re-model our entire offensive line every game.

                        Problems at cornerback are mainly with depth. I feel Richard Marshall will be prepared to start next year with Ken Lucas, Chris Gamble will take his much-deserved spot as #3 on the depth chart. Behind them, we shouldn't need to sign rookie free agents throughout the week just to fill the roster. We need to have some talented depth on the roster and draft some players that actually have potential to develop with the team.

                        It's just about time to put Mike Minter out to pasture, Shaun Williams is already there. We need some speed, physicality, and attitude in the secondary. A player like Michael Griffin or Reggie Nelson would be perfect.

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                        • Rumors about John Fox and the Giants if the Giants lose.


                          I hope we get a real disciplinarian in here. (Mangini/Belichek) style.

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                          • That would be a surprising move and a scary one. Scary because we would likely be stuck with either Henning or Trgovac as our head coach for a year. I wouldn't be shocked if Wake Forest's coach is the first guy we target. Personally, I would want Louisville's head coach if we hired anybody.

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                            • Originally posted by JustJoe2k5
                              That would be a surprising move and a scary one. Scary because we would likely be stuck with either Henning or Trgovac as our head coach for a year. I wouldn't be shocked if Wake Forest's coach is the first guy we target. Personally, I would want Louisville's head coach if we hired anybody.
                              Rumors are we trade? I didn't know you trade coaches haha.

                              Part of the rumor is that the DC of the Bears was talking to Hurney.

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                              • Wake's season was a massive fluke partially fueled by Jon Abbate's brother's death and partially by luck (close games vs NC State and Duke?). If we hire Jim Grobe we would suck for years. Abbate is the type of guy you love to have on your team though.

                                I wouldnt mind Ron Rivera and some extra draft picks but I'd much rather keep Fox until he's proved he's worth firing.

                                Bill Cowher had a stretch of 3 seasons that the Steelers missed the playoffs and also went 6-10 in 2003 before 15-1 in 04 and a SB in 05. He also might be available in a couple years since his family lives in Raleigh. I hope Hurney/the Richardsons do everything in their power to keep Fox but I like that they may have a back up plan in Rivera already in place.

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