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  • I agree. I don't think we need much on defense at all. A safety, and maybe a little more depth on the d-line (I'm really hoping we cut Darwin Walker). A lot of our defensive problems have been injuries, you can't plan for that type of stuff. Even the guys playing have been playing hurt.


    As for the offense. ****. Fire Ron Turner. Get a new QB. Draft two offensive lineman. Draft another runningback. The whole unit is a joke except Clark, Olsen, and Berrian.


    Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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    • I'd like to say I predicted that our offensive line would be garbage without any youth. So one giant I told you so to you all.

      sig by VLS
      Originally posted by Smokey Joe
      I don't care...

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      • Originally posted by Hurricane Ditka View Post
        I'd like to say I predicted that our offensive line would be garbage without any youth. So one giant I told you so to you all.
        Only took three years for you to be right too.

        But seriously, I think most of us realized that. Toonster had be calling for a 1st round lineman since he's been here. I was never against it, I just didn't think it would happen, which it didn't.


        Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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        • I predict we will be picking around 15. So, here is a quick offseason plan...

          -Trade down 10 spots in the draft for the 25th pick and an extra second rounder
          -Trade Alex Brown for a late 3rd rounder
          -Resign Briggs (UFA), Berrian (UFA), Ayanbadejo (UFA), and Mike Brown (UFA, incentive laden)
          -maybe resign Grossman (UFA) for 1 year and cut Griese or let Grossman go and keep Griese (whichever one would compete with Orton for starting job, to go along with a 1st day pick at QB.)
          -Give McGowan (RFA) a low tender. If some other team signs him, oh well, we'd get a late draft pick.
          -Let the following leave in free agency: Davis, Gilmore, R. Brown, and Darrell McClover
          -Cut the following: Archuletta, Miller, Metcalf, Walker, and maybe a couple other lesser players. This would free up around at least 7 million, if not more.
          -Sign RB Chris Brown(I like Faneca but we won't have the money to sign him).
          -Extra Bonus, recieve a 4th round comp. pick from losing Alfonso Boone, has been phenominal with the Chiefs.
          -Use any money left over for extending Harris. If we can't afford it this year, then make room next year by cutting some players.

          DRAFT:
          1-25) Duke Robinson*, OG - Oklahoma
          2-15) Chris Williams, LT - Vanderbilt
          2-25) Dre Moore, DT - Maryland
          3-15) Joe Flacco, QB - Delaware
          3-23) Lavelle Hawkins, WR - California
          3-29) Heath Benedict, OL - Newberry
          4-15) Caleb Campbell, SS - Army
          4-CP) Marcus Monk, WR - Arkansas
          5-16) J.J. Finley, TE - Oklahoma
          6-15) Jehuu Caulcrick, RB/FB - Michigan St.
          7-15) Kerry Brown, OL - Appalachian St.

          *Note: Number next to the round number is the projected pick in that round.
          *Other Picks: Trade down for 25 and an extra second, got a 3rd from San Diego, 3rd from Alex Brown, 4th COMPENSATION from Alfonso Boone, and 5th lost to Bills but received Panthers 5th from Chris Harris

          PROJECTED ROSTER
          QB: Grossman/Griese | Orton | Flacco
          RB: Benson | Brown | Peterson | Wolfe
          FB: McKie
          WR: Berrian | Muhammad | Hawkins | Hester | Bradley | Monk
          TE: Olsen | Clark | Finley
          OT: Tait (RT) | Willaims (LT) | St. Clair | Benedict
          OG: Robinson (LG) | Garza | Beekman
          C: Kreutz

          DE: Ogunleye | Anderson | Baziun | Idonije
          DT: Harris | Dvoracek | Moore | Adams
          WLB: Briggs | Williams | Okwo
          MLB: Urlacher | Wilson
          SLB: Hillenmeyer | Ayanbadejo
          CB: Tillman | Vasher | Manning Jr. | McBride | Graham
          SS: Brown | McGowan | Campbell
          FS: Manning | Gattis

          ST: Gould | Maynard | Mannaley
          Last edited by Smokey Joe; 12-08-2007, 02:45 PM.

          ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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          • That would be the most ideal thing ever, and if it fell like that, I would be estatic.

            Originally posted by BeansDooma
            who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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            • You're a little too optomistic about where you think people will be available.

              I'm doubtful that Moore, Flaco, and maybe Hawkins and Benedict will be available where you have them (with current value of course).

              I also am skeptical that we can get a 3rd rounder for Brown, though it'd be nice.

              All in all it's a fine offseason, but a bit unrealistic IMO.


              Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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              • That kind of off-season/draft would be ridiculous. I would weep tears of joy if that happened. But it won't, it's just too ideal. What would make that even better though would be addressing the staff issues (new offensive coordinator).

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                • Unrealistic yes, but one can always hope;)

                  And I dont think that a 3rd rounder for Brown would be that bad a deal. Him and Ogun have been playing pretty well as of late, and if Brown still wants to be traded his value has only been helped by his good play.

                  Originally posted by BeansDooma
                  who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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                  • Originally posted by bearfan View Post
                    Unrealistic yes, but one can always hope;)

                    And I dont think that a 3rd rounder for Brown would be that bad a deal. Him and Ogun have been playing pretty well as of late, and if Brown still wants to be traded his value has only been helped by his good play.
                    He'll be 29 next year and he's never had more than 7 sacks in a season. I think a 4th rounder is much more realistic.


                    Nobody cares about your stupid fantasy team.

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                    • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                      He'll be 29 next year and he's never had more than 7 sacks in a season. I think a 4th rounder is much more realistic.
                      Yeah I guess, but he is a good all around player. I thought he was a bit younger than that, so you're right, a 4th would be much more realistic

                      Originally posted by BeansDooma
                      who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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                      • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                        I agree. I don't think we need much on defense at all. A safety, and maybe a little more depth on the d-line (I'm really hoping we cut Darwin Walker). A lot of our defensive problems have been injuries, you can't plan for that type of stuff. Even the guys playing have been playing hurt.


                        As for the offense. ****. Fire Ron Turner. Get a new QB. Draft two offensive lineman. Draft another runningback. The whole unit is a joke except Clark, Olsen, and Berrian.
                        You couldn't have put it better bearsfan.

                        QB, Offensive-Line, and Runningback need significant upgrades on offense. I do believe we have positives in the WR core that just hasn't come out yet. Berrian is a solid guy and I think he'll improve. I think its apparent he works better with Grossman than he does with popgun Griese at the helm. Our TE's are just fine and Kruetz, Tait, and Garza are keepers. The rest of the O-Line starters can go. I think if we're drafting positions (other than qb) we need to take a serious look at players that can immediatelly impact our performance.
                        Safety is one, DT is another posibility due to depth issues, another CB would be nice in the later rnds (Angelo's specialty). I still want Benson to get replaced. His half assed efforts are getting tiring. Hopefully there will be a lot of good depth at rb and if we have the chance to get Stewart I say pull the trigger on it.

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                        • Originally posted by Smokey Joe View Post
                          I predict we will be picking around 15. So, here is a quick offseason plan...

                          -Trade down 10 spots in the draft for the 25th pick and an extra second rounder
                          -Trade Alex Brown for a late 3rd rounder
                          -Resign Briggs (UFA), Berrian (UFA), Ayanbadejo (UFA), and Mike Brown (UFA, incentive laden)
                          -maybe resign Grossman (UFA) for 1 year and cut Griese or let Grossman go and keep Griese (whichever one would compete with Orton for starting job, to go along with a 1st day pick at QB.)
                          -Give McGowan (RFA) a low tender. If some other team signs him, oh well, we'd get a late draft pick.
                          -Let the following leave in free agency: Davis, Gilmore, R. Brown, and Darrell McClover
                          -Cut the following: Archuletta, Miller, Metcalf, Walker, and maybe a couple other lesser players. This would free up around at least 7 million, if not more.
                          -Sign RB Chris Brown(I like Faneca but we won't have the money to sign him).
                          -Extra Bonus, recieve a 4th round comp. pick from losing Alfonso Boone, has been phenominal with the Chiefs.
                          -Use any money left over for extending Harris. If we can't afford it this year, then make room next year by cutting some players.

                          DRAFT:
                          1-25) Duke Robinson*, OG - Oklahoma
                          2-15) Chris Williams, LT - Vanderbilt
                          2-25) Dre Moore, DT - Maryland
                          3-15) Joe Flacco, QB - Delaware
                          3-23) Lavelle Hawkins, WR - California
                          3-29) Heath Benedict, OL - Newberry
                          4-15) Caleb Campbell, SS - Army
                          4-CP) Marcus Monk, WR - Arkansas
                          5-16) J.J. Finley, TE - Oklahoma
                          6-15) Jehuu Caulcrick, RB/FB - Michigan St.
                          7-15) Kerry Brown, OL - Appalachian St.

                          *Note: Number next to the round number is the projected pick in that round.
                          *Other Picks: Trade down for 25 and an extra second, got a 3rd from San Diego, 3rd from Alex Brown, 4th COMPENSATION from Alfonso Boone, and 5th lost to Bills but received Panthers 5th from Chris Harris

                          PROJECTED ROSTER
                          QB: Grossman/Griese | Orton | Flacco
                          RB: Benson | Brown | Peterson | Wolfe
                          FB: McKie
                          WR: Berrian | Muhammad | Hawkins | Hester | Bradley | Monk
                          TE: Olsen | Clark | Finley
                          OT: Tait (RT) | Willaims (LT) | St. Clair | Benedict
                          OG: Robinson (LG) | Garza | Beekman
                          C: Kreutz

                          DE: Ogunleye | Anderson | Baziun | Idonije
                          DT: Harris | Dvoracek | Moore | Adams
                          WLB: Briggs | Williams | Okwo
                          MLB: Urlacher | Wilson
                          SLB: Hillenmeyer | Ayanbadejo
                          CB: Tillman | Vasher | Manning Jr. | McBride | Graham
                          SS: Brown | McGowan | Campbell
                          FS: Manning | Gattis

                          ST: Gould | Maynard | Mannaley
                          Smokey as much as I love Chris Browns performance the guy simply cannot stay healthy. He'll be the Mike Brown of runningbacks for us. He's too much of a risk and a risk we cannot bank on given his record. If he could stay healthy I'd say heck yeah..he can't though.

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                          • Originally posted by pellepelle_10 View Post
                            You couldn't have put it better bearsfan.

                            QB, Offensive-Line, and Runningback need significant upgrades on offense. I do believe we have positives in the WR core that just hasn't come out yet. Berrian is a solid guy and I think he'll improve. I think its apparent he works better with Grossman than he does with popgun Griese at the helm. Our TE's are just fine and Kruetz, Tait, and Garza are keepers. The rest of the O-Line starters can go. I think if we're drafting positions (other than qb) we need to take a serious look at players that can immediatelly impact our performance.
                            Safety is one, DT is another posibility due to depth issues, another CB would be nice in the later rnds (Angelo's specialty). I still want Benson to get replaced. His half assed efforts are getting tiring. Hopefully there will be a lot of good depth at rb and if we have the chance to get Stewart I say pull the trigger on it.
                            I dont know if we should draft stewart, maybe if we let Benson go, but I have seen a few mocks where we get some quick back like Steve Slaton, that would make for a good 1-2 punch if you ask me.

                            Originally posted by BeansDooma
                            who retires first: brett favre or aaron rodgers?

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                            • Originally posted by bearsfan_51 View Post
                              You're a little too optomistic about where you think people will be available.

                              I'm doubtful that Moore, Flaco, and maybe Hawkins and Benedict will be available where you have them (with current value of course).

                              I also am skeptical that we can get a 3rd rounder for Brown, though it'd be nice.

                              All in all it's a fine offseason, but a bit unrealistic IMO.
                              Yeah, I spent a while trying to convince myself that Moore will be there, but deep down I knew he wouldn't. I really wanted to add a DT, but the only that would be worthy of that pick would be perhaps Okam who is in that 2nd-3rd range, IMO, but I don't know about that pick. I mean he could fit in nicely at NT, but then we have Adams who is also a NT and Dvoracek could go either way, but looks like his best fit is NT as well. That is why I thought Moore would be a good idea since he could fit in at both UT and NT.

                              Flacco, I could see him falling that far mainly because of lack of competition. But yeah, maybe a bit of a reach having him there.

                              As for Hawkins, I don't think that is a reach, depending on which juniors come out. A good portion of DeSean Jackson, Malcolm Kelly, James Hardy, Earl Bennett, Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington, Devin Thomas, Brian Robiske, Darrius Heywood-Bay, etc are bound to come out (who a lot of them I have ranked ahead of Hawkins), and add that to the fact that there are at least 5-7 better seniors, IMO... I don't think that is crazy.

                              And Benedict has been slipping IMO. Add that to the fact he plays vs. a low level of competition, that's not good. I think even Toonster had him in the middle of the 4th round.

                              ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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                              • Originally posted by pellepelle_10 View Post
                                Smokey as much as I love Chris Browns performance the guy simply cannot stay healthy. He'll be the Mike Brown of runningbacks for us. He's too much of a risk and a risk we cannot bank on given his record. If he could stay healthy I'd say heck yeah..he can't though.
                                That's why we wouldn't give him the load. He would be a good no. 2 back.

                                ^Thanks to Eaglez.Fan for the sweet sig!

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