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    watching the Rose Bowl, this kid is gonna be special. If he declares I think we should go for him. What do you guys think?

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  • #2
    HAHA, funny you should make this post... I thought the EXACT same thing.

    He plays with his instincts, he doesn't have to sit there and think things through he was just acting on instincts. I remember they had him high in mocks last offseason but I guess he had a down year from what they expected.

    He would be a big add.

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    • #3
      yeah. i know i misspelled his name too which bugs me now.
      He just looks all kinds of BIG play LB which is what we need. I havent seen much of Ellis at all yet. But maybe that because im so infatuated with maualuga's play lol

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      • #4
        I don't see us taking Ellis. Every year someone pins us with a DT round 1 and TE round 2 and it never happens.

        DE or LB IMO (unless Glenn Dorsey is there obviously). Yes, we have tons of potential at LB but they all get hurt, the only player at LB that has really played to his potential is Odel but he obviously hasn't played in 2 years.

        Where is his stock at? Is it mid to late 1st round I assume? I really need to get back on draft stuff I have no idea where people are supposed to go haha

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        • #5
          Me either. Im like whoa crap where did these guys come from. Ive been too busy to stay up on things.
          Id say mid-late first too but after this and a great combine who knows. The way he is playing today makes me think more like a top 10-15 kinda guy

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          • #6
            I have a feeling that ellis is gonna be heading to the raiders at in the 5 spot, but could be wrong. I was actually thinking that maualuga would be a perfect fit for you guys or the lions. It basically stemmed from thinking who would benefit from having vilma the most if he comes back 100% healthy (it's rumored that he just had bone chips removed which is good news) and you guys and the lions were the two teams i thought of. He looked fantastic tonight and totally agree with the assesment of him; great instinctual player and is always around the ball.

            "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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            • #7
              What do you then do with a healthy Odell and Ahmad Brooks? Ray may be an upgrade, but not as great of an upgrade as a super passrusher or a running stuffing stud in the middle of the D-line. I think both Brooks and Thurman are special if we can get them on the field.

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              • #8
                i think we have bigger needs imo. not to say maualuga isn't a great player but he's an ILB and an ILB only to me which is not one of our bigger needs. if he could play SLB that would be great but i'd rather see a dlineman or a WLB personally someone like keith rivers.

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                • #9
                  I love Ahmad's play (obviously) as well as Odell but they just can't be counted on at this point. Ahmad had a lot of injuries in college and only made it a game and a half this year, Odell hasn't played in two years... At this point we take the defender that can make the biggest difference for us, regardless of position. Ahmad could easily move over to SLB and I've mentioned before that I think Odell could be a successul WLB.

                  We need a rock in the middle, someone who we can rely on health/off field wise and I want a guy of that sort. I haven't seen enough of him to say he's that guy but we need someone to be that guy. Look at the impact Patrick Willis has had as a rookie, we need a guy like that. I completely understand where you guys are coming from it's just that there's not a single LB we can count on outside of Landon and he's only average. I like Jeanty but he's always beat up, Pollack who knows, Odell who knows, Ahmad has obvious potential but has to stay healthy to show it.

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                  • #10
                    What he said.
                    Odell is a HUGE question right now. 2 years is a long time to sit.

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                    • #11
                      im not even thinking of odell. i think the only LB we need is a WLB but maybe thats just me. ahmad being hurt is bad luck plain and simple and i think comparing odell and ahmad isn't even a question at this point. im not saying get maualuga would be bad at all im just saying we have more pressing priorities imo. it just depends whose there really any defensive player would be fine be my so long as it isnt a DB. (in the first)


                      EDIT: and if you want to get on the topic of odell. the way i see it is this: he's 24 years old and is apparently in top shape. being a football player personally i know it isn't something you forget very easily so i wouldn't count him out in the least. sure he may be rusty but do not count this young man out if his head is in it.
                      Last edited by themaninblack; 01-01-2008, 09:28 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Its the head in it part that worries me. Im pulling for him. But I do agree about going Defense in rd 1 as long as its not DB. I think a LB or DL would be our best options. Personally I like DE if we can get Chris Long. If Dorsey, Long arent available and Campbell doesnt pan out, I would take Maualuga over Rivers. Maybe Laurenitis but idk.

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                        • #13
                          We need to strengthen the middle of our DL, plain and simple. We can't guess on late rounders for that anymore. DT is by far our biggest need. Peko is solid but thats all ill give him and thats being nice(hes not a game changer). Look at the top teams and they have all spent top picks on their DT's and DE's. We play 10 teams next year who are all brute force running football team. If we hope to succeed we better do something about our DL. If we don't expect similiar results next year.

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                          • #14
                            If Dorsey or Ellis (who I havent been impressed with lately) arent available, I dont see us wasting a pick on a BS DT that isnt worth the pick. Bring in a FA DT if we can, get a LB or DE instead of a DT that isnt worth our pick. Ellis, Dorsey are the only2 worth that high of a pick.

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                            • #15
                              I could completely see Odell coming back and doing something, I'm just assuming he won't. More for not getting my hopes up than anything. Ahmad's amount of injuries worry me as well, he struggled with it his last year in college and only made it through the 1 game really this year.

                              I just really don't want another year like this were we have our entire LB core get destroyed. It's hard to put a solid defense out there when you have a thrown together LB core.

                              I do agree that on paper we have bigger needs (WLB/DE/DT) but I think MLB is such an impact position and Ahmad could easily move to SLB (Jeanty would be a GREAT backup). If they see Ellis as a guy to shore up our Dline then there's no reason to not take him, I'm just not sure that'll be the case.

                              Bottom line is as long as it isn't a CB it'll be hard to make me angry with our first pick.

                              EDIT: I just saw where Mauluga or whatever his name is said he's staying... Guess that kills this theory anyway.

                              What about Lauranitis, isn't he versatile? A versatile LB would be amazing. I just REALLY want a LB for the impact they have although it'd be nice to get someone in there beside Peko.
                              Last edited by PalmerToCJ; 01-02-2008, 03:15 AM.

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