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  • #16
    Hmmm this is interesting... Not sure if I buy into it though.

    DRAFT BUZZ: Defensive tackle, linebacker and defensive back are the top priorities because the 30th-ranked defense needs more impact players. The club is hoping Louisville DT Amobi Okoye slips to No. 18. He'd be a perfect fit because he's a strong, quick, relentless defender who would push the pocket, create more sack opportunities for the ends and strengthen the run defense. If he's not there, the team would welcome Penn State LB Paul Posluszny, Florida FS Reggie Nelson or a cornerback such as Michigan's Leon Hall, Texas' Aaron Ross or Pitt's Darrelle Revis. Posluszny has the ability to play inside and outside. That's the kind of versatility the team loves. Nelson is an aggressive playmaker and enforcer in coverage who would bolster the soft secondary. A swift cover corner is needed to push mercurial veteran Deltha O'Neal, whose inconsistency is a major concern.
    Ross/Hall just don't seem like good fits. Revis/Nelson/Poz/Okoye do. I didn't think Marvin would want a guy like Poz but he's no slouch. I'm not so sure I buy into the article because of the mention of Hall and Ross, I just don't see it.
    Last edited by PalmerToCJ; 03-05-2007, 12:11 PM.

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    • #17
      Definitely an interesting article. I think depending on the pro day 18 may be a bit high for Revis, though he would be the best fit out of the corners. Ross seems a bit out of place and early as well, and I don't know if the front office would like the fact that he's a bit old for a prospect. Not sure about Hall, but he shouldn't be there anyway so it really doesn't matter. Nelson makes sense from a playing standpoint but I hear he isn't the smartest guy in the world and I wonder if we'll be a bit gun shy and look to grab a safter pick from a character standpoint. At linebacker Poz would be an ok pick IMO but not a great one, probably a bit early. If Timmons isn't there and then theres a trade down to pick up a third or maybe another second and then Beason gets taken between 18 and wherever they trade to...then I could see it. But not at 18. Maybe they would do it to make sure they grab him as he seems like he's a real football player and a pretty good guy, but it seems like the Bengals like measurables over the "just a good football player" guys who don't test out so well, at least early, although I could be completely off there. Okoye I could definitely see being considered if he falls but I think he and Branch are the only DT's who will get consideration at 18. Just my two cents.

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      • #18
        I think personally, I am rooting for Poz. I don't care if he's a bit slower, I think he makes up for it in instincts, heart and leadership. We got our quick LBers in Caleb and Landon, now let's get one that can actually make some plays at the lione of scrimmage. I think he could step in at day 1 and be one of the top players on our defense. If he isn't the choice, I do like Okoye, Willis, Revis, Hall or Griffin(trade down). I'm not sure about Nelson for "smarts" reasons.

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        • #19
          I'm not really rooting for Poz although I wouldn't be angry if he was the pick.

          I'm mostly rooting for Timmons or Nelson. Nelsons smarts issue has a lot to do with his GPA but just because your GPA sucks doesn't mean you're dumb... In some cases it just means you don't care about school work haha.

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          • #20
            Trade down?

            Personally, I hope we can trade down in the first and pick up and additional second or get back a 3rd rounder. I would rather have 3 new defensive players coming in from Day 1 - to go along with the likely forgetable Frostee, the escaped jail AJ , the full camp awits Ahmad and maybe Odell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by PalmerToCJ View Post
              I'm not really rooting for Poz although I wouldn't be angry if he was the pick.

              I'm mostly rooting for Timmons or Nelson. Nelsons smarts issue has a lot to do with his GPA but just because your GPA sucks doesn't mean you're dumb... In some cases it just means you don't care about school work haha.
              At the same time when you're a college athlete at the level Nelson was you have so much going for you when it comes to academics its tough to do poorly. After his blazing forty he may be out of the Bengals' range, but if he slips to them it will be tough not to take him. Imagine that safety pairing for years to come...

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              • #22
                My Big Board:

                Chris Houston
                - I think he is the best CB prospect. He has the speed to keep up with anybody, he is a very physical CB in coverage, and he has a ton of upside. He needs to work on his run support, but he has time to learn. He reminds me a lot of Joseph.

                Lawrence Timmons- He is what we need in a linebacker. He has decent speed and he is tailor made for the weak side. Landon Johnson is solid, but I do not think he is by any means a long-term solution. Timmons-Thurman-Brooks would be a very good combination. (for the record, I think the release of Brian Simmons pretty much assures that Odell is coming back)

                Patrick Willis- Even though I think Odell is coming back, Willis could probably make the move to the weak side. He has decent speed and coverage skills. He also has very good size.

                Adam Carriker- I think Carriker would make a fantastic 3 technique DT. He has great height and would really provide a much needed interior pass rush. I prefer tall, long, 300-310 lb. DTs who can rush the passer and use their leverage to make a statement in the running game.

                Darrell Revis- I am not sold on Leon Hall at all, and I think Revis is the second best CB in the draft. We do not really know his speed, but I think it will be solid. My only reservation with him is that he did not see a whole lot of action last season. From what I understand, he was only thrown at ~15 times.

                I will be pretty upset if the Bengals draft a S in the first round. We have two solid starters and Kaes, if he resigns, is good depth. And if Kaes does not come back, I think they will go after Deon Grant or Ken Hamlin as a replacement. Plus, Ratliff can play safety in a pinch. LB and CB are much bigger needs, along with a DT that can rush the passer from the inside without sacrificing anything in the run game. I think Fanene could make a very good UT, but I am not sure if he will get the chance. DE is another position that is really not needed. Even without Justin Smith, I think Rucker will have a very good season, and Robinson, Fanene, and even Henderson provide solid depth. I just do not see a pass rusher that will be available at 18 that will be an upgrade over what we have.

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                • #23
                  The thing about safteys is that's where you can have real game changers, a bulk of the non-cover 2 teams with great defenses have elite safteys.

                  I think if Keiwan could play saftey in the coaching staffs eyes that Ohalete wouldn't have been allowed out there in '05.

                  I agree about Fanene and I think Smith will not be signed long term to see what Frostee can do... Marvin was obviously high on him.

                  I think that Timmons would be the dream pick at this point, with Odell back we'd have an insane young LB core loaded with talent/playmakers... All three could get to the QB if needed.

                  As much as I think we need a CB I'm hoping that holds off until the second, Deltha can play next year if needed and CB just isn't the game changing spot LB or S can be. Plus, anyone instead of Tory James is a massive upgrade.

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                  • #24
                    well

                    im hoping for Revis,because i think CB was our greatest need last year. James and Oneal were horrid. Id take Hall too, but im not sold on Chris houston

                    Puz would be fine with me, i think he gets taken by the steelers though.

                    we could get our linebacker in the 2nd, anyways. Siler and Alexander are both probably left there.


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                    • #25
                      Do you guys think Buster Davis could be a good fit in the 2nd? We are talking about a pure football player with top notch intangibles and the speed Marvin loves. He could move to WLB for the Bengals and they could have their lineup looking like

                      SLB - Brooks
                      MLB - Thurman
                      WLB - Davis

                      And of course if Thurman keeps having problems and gets suspended or anything Davis could start at MLB.

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                      • #26
                        I think Buster Davis is exclusively a MLB. He probably does not have the speed to be a WLB and he is far too short.

                        Siler, Everett, or Alexander would be better choices. Even Durant would be a solid choice in the second round.

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                        • #27
                          Most of these speedy LBers that are out there are in the 220- or low 230s and that can't stop Jamel Lewis in his tracks at the line of scrimmage. That's been the problem with Johnson and Miller. They may make contact, but they can't bring people down NOW

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                          • #28
                            odell plays at 230 and could destroy jamal lewis. its more than size, its an attitude bringing down someone like that.

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                            • #29
                              Yeah I don't think we go with anyone of the MLB type, we already have Odell/Ahmad/Caleb/Nicholson who can play MLB. I'd really prefer just a pure WLB. Maybe we could manage to trade down and get Beason, then go CB round 2 and S round 3.

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                              • #30
                                i dont like beason at all and i dont think linebacker is as big a need as it is being made out to be. if odell comes back this would be a wasted pick imo. i still think we should trade down and pick up griffin and hopefully a 3rd rounder.

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