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    Does anyone else see a connection between Drew Rosenhaus (Chad's agent) and the problems Chad's been causing recently? If my memory serves me right, Rosenhaus was the main reason for the TO scandal a few years back and was also behind the McGahee trade to the Ravens. Historically, Rosenhaus has been an agent who urges his players to seek out more money, thus causing team friction. Maybe its just me who thinks this...


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    Originally posted by hobbes2053 View Post
    Does anyone else see a connection between Drew Rosenhaus (Chad's agent) and the problems Chad's been causing recently? If my memory serves me right, Rosenhaus was the main reason for the TO scandal a few years back and was also behind the McGahee trade to the Ravens. Historically, Rosenhaus has been an agent who urges his players to seek out more money, thus causing team friction. Maybe its just me who thinks this...
    If this was Rosenhaus' doing Chad would be asking for more money, not a straight trade. Chad has a very fragile ego, and being scapegoated, both explicitly by the media, and implicitly by Marvin Lewis, has disillusioned him to the Bengals. Chad got a raw deal, and he doesn't want to get burned again. It's understandable.

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    • #3
      Rosenhaus can only do what his clients ask him to do...He might go about it like a shark, but he only does what he's told, and what those guys pay him to do.


      Also since the whole TO thing, Rosenhaus has been alot more respectful, and doing his business behind the scenes, out of the media, and in a way the organization can respect.


      You can't fault him if guys want new contracts, TO caused that entire scene with Philly, the agent just has to take the fall for things like that...Chad made his point on his own, its Rosenhaus job to do the rest but thats at Chads will.
      Last edited by LonghornsLegend; 04-25-2008, 01:50 AM.





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      • #4
        i know he get paid and does what his clients ask him to do but he also, as an agent, tells them that they can get more money. thats part of what hes supposed to do. i like TO and think he got shafted in philly. of course he could have handled things better to a degree but he wasnt completely in the wrong. i just found it somewhat odd that Rosenhaus has been behind 3 somewhat large ordeals involving his clients. also, the media plays a huge part in the way the whole thing is portrayed to the public.


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        • #5
          a LOT of players are represented by rosehaus and at some point something is going to give and somehow mix up the players.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hobbes2053 View Post
            i know he get paid and does what his clients ask him to do but he also, as an agent, tells them that they can get more money. thats part of what hes supposed to do. i like TO and think he got shafted in philly. of course he could have handled things better to a degree but he wasnt completely in the wrong. i just found it somewhat odd that Rosenhaus has been behind 3 somewhat large ordeals involving his clients. also, the media plays a huge part in the way the whole thing is portrayed to the public.
            But you know those 3 or 4 times you hear about him being involved in those instances, thats like 2% of his clients? He has well over 50 well known top athletes, at some point he is going to handle clients who want to go about things differently...Zach Thomas is also his client, but at the same time Zach Thomas is one of the most respectful guys ever, so you never heard so much as a peep out of contract signings for him...Same goes for Kearse, and alot of other guys.

            Sometimes situations get sticky and it's the agents job to take the fall, but these circumstances don't only happen when you deal with Rosenhaus, he has so many other clients where things go smoothly, but guys see the market and see other players getting paid more then them who aren't as good, so they get upset at their outdated contract...Alot of times thats on the playerswho get the idea of more money in their head first, and they tell Drew to get something done.





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
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            • #7
              ya i dont think you can blame it on an agent. just doing their job, chads whining like a 4 year old girl because the media all the sudden decided he was a detriment to our team. The team prolly said something to the extent that they don't want that type of thing swirling around n he blew it out of proportion. I understand he's mad but he crossed the line. Maybe the team said something to him that rubbed him the wrong way but simply they are paying you millions to play a GAME. get over it.

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              • #8
                Yea some of Chad's comment really surprise me, seems like things get harsher as this goes on, he even took a jab at Carson, if I'm Marvin Lewis I sucker Washington into two full hard 1st and call it a deal.





                Originally posted by Scott Wright
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                • #9
                  for the team I want the picks but at the same time I think it could be a good thing with the stance they are taking against Chad. Apparently the locker room really likes the way Marvin has handled it and thats really good in my opinion. Marvin has kinda turned back to his old ways with that type of talk which is something he shoulda never stopped doing IMO. We were good when Marvin was an asshole and somewhere along the line he stopped being that way. I think it also sets a good example for league in general, though many disagree based on the offer we got from Washington.

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                  • #10
                    ill agree that the media is mostly to blame with the whole Chad incident, as well as most others. Chad did go way too far with some of the things that he said, especially bad mouthing the team. nothing good comes out of that.


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                    • #11
                      The person most to blame for the Chad incident is............ Tracy McGrady. :D

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                      • #12
                        Eh, the agent can whisper things into the player's ears. Don't act like Rosenhaus just does what his clients does, I'm 100% positive he's active in the decisions the player's make.

                        Now, thats not to say that I think Rosenhaus is the sole reason for this whole thing. I'm just saying he's certainly been involved in it, and more than likely was an influence on Chad's decision to publicly demand a trade (and by influenced I don't mean he came up with the idea - I have no idea. But I'm sure he encouraged it).

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                        • #13
                          To say, you can't blame the agent is absolute horse sh*t... While I won't go so far as to say, it's all his fault, Rosenwhore benefits greatly from whatever Chad stirs up. A new contract in the range of 8-10 mil per year with 20 mil up front puts a lot of extra cash in the agents pocket. With the contract already in place with the Bengals, Rosenwhore has nothing to lose...

                          Chad didn't get a raw deal either. We are talking about a WR who (yes I know he's been to 5 straight pro bowls) has dropped passes at the times we needed it most, dogged plays, and b*tched more than most little girls. We have reworked his contract like 3 times in the past 5 seasons before it was even up to satisfy him. For all of this coddling of Chad, what has it gotten the team ?? NOTHING !!! One playoff appearance that resulted in a loss.

                          While I am MORE THAN aware that Chad is far from the reason this team has suffered (I look to the defense) he has certainly not helped the situation at all. He has turned his back on the fans of this team and his teammates as well. It baffles me how any Bengals fan could support this assclown. He has said he doesn't want the admiration of the fans and then throws verbal jabs at Carson. I would love to see him having the ball thrown to him by Jason Campbell !!!

                          Chad may be a great football player, but he's a piece of sh*t person in my opinion...

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                          • #14
                            Rosenhaus is just doing his job no matter which way you cut it. He doesn't care about teams he's making his players, and in return himself, as much money as he can while he can.

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                            • #15
                              Don't get me wrong MIB, I believe he's just doing his job as well and don't fault him for doing his job. I do however, fault him for the WAY he does his job. He benefits regardless... Albeit, he can only do what his client wants him to do, but he also has great influence over the situation and if he feels he can get more money by encouraging his client to be a complete assclown (See Chad) then he has nothing to lose.

                              Yes, though, he is doing his job...

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