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  • #16
    I agree 100% about getting everyone to camp now to get them working as a team

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    • #17
      Loving your guys new Maualuga and Smash bros sigs!

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      • #18
        HA thanks. Falcon did one heck of a job on mine.
        Your sig kills me every time though lol.

        You need Rey and Domata with their flowing locks in there ha

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        • #19
          I think we can go ahead and say this is the best offseason this team has had in a VERY long time. We won't really know how this draft fares for awhile but I think we've pretty much done everything we could have done to bring back the guys we needed while bringing in plenty of young talent. Couldn't really ask for much more.
          Last edited by themaninblack; 04-29-2009, 09:43 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by themaninblack View Post
            I think we can go ahead and say this is the best offseason this team has had in a VERY long time. We won't really know how this draft fare's for awhile but I think we've pretty much done everything we could have done to bring back the guys we needed while bringing in plenty of young talent. Couldn't really ask for much more.
            Totally agree. We were able to fix our holes on offense while also being able to improve our defense. Any draft you can do that is successful. It is one of those kinda drafts where as long as everyone stays healthy for the majority you can get a winning team.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by themaninblack View Post
              Yeah, I can really see it with a lot of these guys:

              Smith- wants to prove the character concerns are overblown and that he can possibly play LT in the NFL though I really think hes going to be a dominant RT.

              Maualuga- Similar maturity concerns, also wants to prove he should have been drafted much higher.

              Johnson- needs to prove he can fulfill his great potential and that he has a motor.

              Coffman- needs to prove that he can be an adept blocker.

              Luigs- that he was being overlooked as a top C in his senior season.

              Good points. I like that these guys have something to prove and show the pundits up. It will be interesting to see if they can will themselves to be great Bengals. Coaching these guys up will be the key. Of the group, the most uncertain is Johnson on the boom/bust scale, everyone agrees he has the tools but needs to persevere/excel on the moves required to be a great pass rusher.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SC Igniter View Post
                Good points. I like that these guys have something to prove and show the pundits up. It will be interesting to see if they can will themselves to be great Bengals. Coaching these guys up will be the key. Of the group, the most uncertain is Johnson on the boom/bust scale, everyone agrees he has the tools but needs to persevere/excel on the moves required to be a great pass rusher.
                The thing I like about the Johnson pick is that the pressure doesn't need to be on him to the extent that it would have been had he been selected higher. I'm sure the coaches will be all over his ass, but the risk really isn't incredibly high with this kid. It was almost a situation where the possibilities were just to great to pass up. If he fails its not like it is the end of the world and I think that is the most important thing people need to understand with this pick. Not often does an athlete of that caliber last that long in the draft, and I'm glad we have the chance to work with him. I think Marvin will take a very big stake in his development and with the coaching staff we currently have on defense, Its more likely than not that he does succeed.

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                • #23
                  I have confidence that Zim will get him to truly tap into his potential. And when he does, look out.


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                  • #24
                    I can't say enough how impressed I am with what Zimmer has been able to do for this defense. That's why I have faith that he will get Johnson and Rey playing up to their potential. I will still say, my absolute only complaint about this draft is that we didn't get Wood or Mack. Granted, I don't blame the FO because I don't think they could justify trading up to get either. It's just an unfortunate case of other teams taking them earlier than anticipated.

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                    • #25
                      Another guy not mentioned much is Trent kid from Michigan. This might be another good pick for the D, we needed some depth at that spot and he may turn out to be a gem. We don't get many UofM games down here but the ones I've seen had him playing decent (if I'm remembering correctly?).

                      This draft keeps on getting better for me.

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                      • #26
                        Morgan Trent could be alright. He's more physical than we're accustom to here in Cinci, which could be a nice change. I don't think he'll take the nickel spot this year, but maybe in the near future.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bengalsrocket View Post
                          Morgan Trent could be alright. He's more physical than we're accustom to here in Cinci, which could be a nice change. I don't think he'll take the nickel spot this year, but maybe in the near future.
                          That is the kind of CB's that Zim likes. So not too surprising that he was selected.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by StripedWalrus View Post
                            That is the kind of CB's that Zim likes. So not too surprising that he was selected.
                            Bump n' run seems to be one of the hardest things to do in the NFL. I hope Zim does a good job teaching him.

                            Also, since I never contributed earlier - my initial reaction is that we got a lot of "future" picks, and not a whole of immediate impact players.

                            Andre Smith - obviously he will make an immediate impact. He's big and strong and can at least play RT if we feel comfortable with Collins at LT. Most people say you don't draft a RT with a top 10 pick, but I disagree. Draft picks aren't worth the same every year, and sometimes a great RT is worth picking up early. However, lets hope he can play LT for Carson's sake :)

                            Rey Maualuga - The second player that can make an immediate impact. My concern is that we're going to stick him at SLB though. While I think he can handle it, I'd rather not let him get to comfortable there then force him to switch to MLB later. The transition to SLB and then back to MLB could be rough on him.

                            Michael Johnson - Johnson is obviously a bit of a project. If he contributes anything in 2009 I'll be surprised. The risk was definitely worth it, even in the third round, though. I'm hopeful for Odom and Geathers still, but if they don't get their act together this year, hopefully Johnson can replace one next year.

                            Chase Coffman - He seems like he's basically a glorified receiver. His lack of blocking ability, and the number of targets we already have says to me that he won't be very helpful early on. However, I trust this coaching staff to further improve his receiving skills (that seems to be our greatest strengths) and hopefully teach him to block. I could see Coffman becoming a probowl receiving TE in 2-3 years. Furthermore, he's another exciting addition to the new regime of receivers with Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell.

                            Jonathan Luigs - He's smart and athletic, but unfortunately doesn't seem all that strong. My concern here is that he seems like he might fit in the mold of Ghiaciuc. His lack of strength might hurt him in our division, but lets hope with the right conditioning and surrounding offensive linemen that he can progress and succeed.

                            Kevin Huber - I kind of like Kyle Larson, but I understand his lack of leg strength is a cause for concern. Huber's got a strong leg, and is, in my opinion, the best punter in this draft class. The pick seemed early, but you can never overlook special teams and Marvin knows that.

                            Morgan Trent - we talked about it earlier, but he's slightly more physical than both Hall and Joseph. Let's hope that Zimmer can mold him into a nickel back quickly because we desperately need one if Chris Crocker is going to be playing Safety.

                            Bernard Scott - Yeah yeah, we're all aware he's had some arrests. And obviously if he gets in more trouble you just scrap your loses and cut him. However, the upside here is huge. I'm not sure our coaching staff is the best choice to tame this kid, but if we can do it he'll be a nice addition to a terrible running back roster.

                            Fui Vakapuna - FB is definitely a need, but again, I'm not sure this guy can start over Jeremi Johnson or Daniel Coats (assuming Daniel is a FB and not a TE next year). decent pick for the 7th round and admittedly I know very little about him outside of what I heard after we drafted him.

                            Clinton McDonald - Another guy that will likely spend a lot of time on the bench. He's a little undersized and I don't see the value here. With Tank Johnson, Peko, Pat Sims and Shirley all on the roster I highly doubt he sees any action any time soon. However, he's a smart kid and we all know Marvin Lewis has been screwed over by injuries one to many times, so you know he's just trying to build depth.

                            Freddie Brown - Don't get this pick. We've got so many WR's and WR projects that I don't know if he'll even make the roster. Although he is smart and has good size. If he does end up making the roster, I hope he can help us go undefeated one day too ;)

                            Anyways, in the end, the only guys I see as locks to start are Andre Smith & Rey Maualuga. And after that, possibly Huber and Luigs - and believe it or not - Bernard Scott (if for nothing else than the fact that he has very little competition outside of Cedric Benson).
                            Last edited by Bengalsrocket; 04-30-2009, 12:19 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Gotta say I disagree on the guys being immediate impact.

                              We got almost definitely 3 starters (Smith, Maualuga, Huber). Johnson should see time from the beginning as a pass rusher which we definitely needed. He's not a 3 down DE but would provide fresh legs to get at the QB. Coffman could also see a decent amount of PT. Scott could definitely see the field given our lack of depth at RB. I hope Jeremi Johnson is back to his old self but given that injury, Vakapuna is a nice backup plan. Coats isn't a FB if you ask me. I really really really hope Luigs ends up starting this year, I can't see the other options at this point being that much better.

                              I can't see many other teams having more guys that will produce immediately. Last season was a much better example of players for development over immediate production.

                              The only thing I miss (other than a top C) in this draft is a kick returner... We really need one that can have an impact.

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                              • #30
                                lol, Punters and Kickers get NO respect.

                                Why do you think Freddie Brown deserves an F?
                                Doesn't matter if it is all fat, if he can move better covered in fat, more power to him. SAINTS-TIGERS

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