Cincinnati Bengals Discussion

[PalmerToCJ]

i have a question. Who is more important to the bengels? CJ or Carson?? i was just wondering what you guys thought.

Carson. Hands down. His accuracy and arm strength just can't be replaced. Chad is big for the team but the Oline/Carson are MUCH more important.

'Twas a good night to be a Bengals fan.

FREAKING RAVENS HAD TO RUIN OUR SHUTOUT :evil:

I'll comment more in the morning (have to study) but all I know is Jonathan Joseph is bringin' it. After tonight I believe he's the better CB over Marshall (my opinion of course).

[derza222]

i have a question. Who is more important to the bengels? CJ or Carson?? i was just wondering what you guys thought.

Carson. Hands down. His accuracy and arm strength just can't be replaced. Chad is big for the team but the Oline/Carson are MUCH more important.

'Twas a good night to be a Bengals fan.

FREAKING RAVENS HAD TO RUIN OUR SHUTOUT :evil:

I'll comment more in the morning (have to study) but all I know is Jonathan Joseph is bringin' it. After tonight I believe he's the better CB over Marshall (my opinion of course).

Joseph had a pretty sick game last night. He needs to work on finishing plays though, he should've had at least 1 pick. Granted they were all very difficult catches to make, but he got both hands on about 5 balls and he should've come away with at least one of them.

I kind of think that the importance goes Line/Carson/Chad, because IMO without a line an offense is crap. If the line gives him time and opens some running lanes no matter who's playing the RB, TE, and WR we'll win the game. Just because the line is very important both running and passing I think they're more important. That's during the game though. Off the field I think Chad is really a good player for this team and works his ass off and wants to win, so he does help the drive to win for this team. Not saying he's more imporant, but you can't underrate his importance to the team. But IMO Carson is more overall impact by a bit.

[PalmerToCJ]

The nucleus of this team is amazing.

TJ/Chad/Carson/Willie/Levi/Simmons/Braham... All of them are great individual players that only care about winning. Sucks that in the slump this year I realized how great these guys are, especially TJ/Carson/Willie.

Chad/TJ/Henry lead the league trios in Receptions, Yards and TD's.

If we can make this push to get into the playoffs it's going to benefit us greatly once we get in. Last year I still feel we very well could've beat Pitt with Carson in all game but ending the year that bad just wasn't the best.

All I know is the defense needs to keep bringing the heat on the QB and Jonathan Joseph needs to start over Tory James when Deltha comes back. Breshnahan did a great job of sending Dexter in on the run blitz last night and Peko/Adams were getting great initial penetration to stop Lewis.

[Bengalsrz]

What a game, we are makin a great playoff run, if we keep playing like we have been, I think we have a shot at the SB.

[PalmerToCJ]

What a game, we are makin a great playoff run, if we keep playing like we have been, I think we have a shot at the SB.

I wouldn't go that far, I just want to make the playoffs in the first place.

If we get in that means we're on a roll and we've beat some good teams so there's a potential for a deep run.

[FootballGod]

KC lost today and Im loving it. I just hope Seattle will lose tonight as well.

[PalmerToCJ]

KC lost today and Im loving it. I just hope Seattle will lose tonight as well.

I'm all about KC losing, those Browns are just helpful.

Broncos are GOING DOWN!!! Alexander is going to help out his NKY roots by getting a W to help the Bengals.

[FootballGod]

Mock 2.0 I am going to start this off by saying that I am going to assume that we finish the season at 9-7. That would give us a pick around number 21. Please tell me what you think. I can take the criticism and welcome it.

Round 1. Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State Sr, 6-3, 295: I feel that he is the second best DT in the draft behind Alan Branch. Quinn would fit perfect into our 4-3 base defense and could also play DE when we switch to 3-4. Sam Adams and John Thornton are unproductive and old. Pitcock and Peko in the middle would look great for years to come.

Round 2. Brandon Meriweather, SS, Miami (FL), 6' 195: There aren’t many players that have produced on the level of Brandon Meriweather. After serving as a backup and special teamer in 2003, he moved into the starting lineup and had 62 tackles, two for loss, with a pair of interceptions as a sophomore in 2004. During his junior season is where Meriweather took his game to an elite level. He finished the year with various All American honors after racking up 115 tackles, 13 for loss, with three interceptions. Brandon Meriweather is the total package at safety. His biggest impact comes in attacking the line of scrimmage. He is fearless, and is a force at stopping the run. But he is also an excellent blitzer and gets into the backfield on a consistent basis and makes plays. In coverage, he shows the ability to locate the ball and speed to get to the action and make plays. He also brings the versatility of being able to play at both safety spots. Will drop in the draft because of character issues, which Marvin has not been afraid to draft in the past.

Round 3. Ahmad Brooks (2006)

Round 4. Justin Warren, ILB, Texas A&M Sr, 6-3, 245: Teams leading tackler by a mile. Ideal size and strength for an ILB. Scary to think that Odell and Pollack could not be back next year and Simmons is no longer a speedster. This would work well if we switch to a 3-4 but would also add depth, which we all know we need at this postion.

Round 5. Marquice Cole, CB, Northwestern Sr, 5-9, 185 Punt returner. A little small for the position which will make him drop in the draft. Marquice is more quick than fast, which is why he would be the perfect nickle or slot corner in the NFL. He makes plays in close quarters but gets beat on deep passes. Good tackler.

Round 6. John Beck, QB, BYU Sr, 6-1, 218: AMAZING ARM STRENGHT. Can throw a ball 75 yards. Guaranteed to make any throw at the next level. Reads defenses well, makes quality adjustments, and makes quick checkdowns on receivers. Good pocket presence and fairly agile. Has played under 2 head coaches and two different offensive schemes, progressing quickly into new system. Gun slinger who would fit into the Matt Schaub type of a career backup who could manage an offense in a pinch behind Carson. It would be nice to get a backup that will be around for a while.

Round 7. Brent Celek, TE, University of Cincinnati Sr, 6'4", 260: Great runner after the catch. Averages 15 yards a catch this season. Hometown product who is the all-time leading receiver as TE for the Bearcats. Just what the fans wanted... a TE.

Tell me what you guys think. What would you change? Do you like the positions that were picked? Who Dey

[rickscott]

When Celek ran 83 yds vs Rutgers, I was shocked to see that he was actually that big. He has fine speed and strength too as he displayed tossing tacklers off him. How's his blocking?

[rickscott]

I think Pitcock is gone when we pick. I think a CB is more likely in Rd 1. We had great luck with Peko in Rd 4 so I think we'll pick up another DT in mid-rounds rather than Rd1. I do agree that with alot of uncertainty at LB we will take at least 1. How about the Safety from ND. That kid is a fine punt recturner and KO man too I think. Will he be around in rd 2 or is that too early for him? What about the DT from North Carolina? Tank Tyler. I hear he has played real well and he could be there if we do pick a DT in Rd 1?

[PalmerToCJ]

I want Merriweather, I don't care how much people will bash the team. It's about production on the field. If he is there round 2 I'm all for taking him.

I'd like to see DL round 1 and Saftey round 2.

I like your 6th and 7th round picks.

Keep in mind that it's Mike Brown taking the poor character guys, Marvin has publicly said he doesn't want them.

[FootballGod]

I do not care about the off the field stuff either and that is why I want to draft Meriweather. It takes talent to win in the NFL and he is a steal in the 2nd round. Give me talent over character anyday. By the way Thurman and Henry both make our team better.

[PalmerToCJ]

I agree about the off field stuff.

It's an annoyance for sure as a fan because the media makes a big deal about it but it doesn't effect the team.

I'd rather have Chris Henry than ANY other WR taken in that draft and we got him round 3. With Odell his production last year alone was worth the pick. If it's truely a "Best Player Available" strategy then character is a non-issue.

We drafted an angel in David Pollack and he's turned out to probably be a wasted pick, as a fan I'd rather have an idiot that gets in trouble making plays than a church boy sucking it up.

Not that I'm saying I don't want good character guys but we have tons of them on the team already, we're just a few talented players away from a SB run. I'd rather have bad press and win a SB than get good press and not make the playoffs or make it and lose first round.

[PalmerToCJ]

I'm so alone in here... I feel like a fat chick in a club.

[BengalsPwn]

I live in S. florida so ive seen a lot of Merriweather and Im no that high on him bc of his trouble with bigger players. I would prefer a bigger safety someone who is already over 200lbs or one who is more sound in the tackling department. His tackling reminds me too much of Sean Taylor and thats not a good thing bc he just launchs himself like a missle hoping for the big one and lets big plays happen which is our problem already. Give me Landry or Nelson in the first or a guy like Aaron Rouse in the second or third if we can get our hands on a third round pick. Without Justin next year DE has to be the first round pick though.