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    AFC North Preview

    Passing Game-
    1. Cincinnati Bengals- The Cincinnati Bengals have one of the top 3 quarterbacks in the league in Carson Palmer. They also have one of the top receivers in Chad Johnson, and a great possession guy in TJ Houshmanzadeh. Even with Chris Henry out, the Bengals have the top passing game in the AFC North.
    2. Cleveland Browns- This may shock some people, but the Browns have the 2nd best passing game in the AFC North. Charlie Frye is disappointing, but he has all the weapons to be successful. Braylon Edwards, Joe Jurevicious, and Kellen Winslow are a great group for Charlie to throw to. Brady Quinn is also waiting in the wings to be his successor.
    3. Pittsburgh Steelers- The Steelers are looking to rebound from a disappointing season last year. They have a decent passing game. Ben Roethlisberger is a good quarterback, but he lacks weapons. Hines Ward is consistent, but the rest of the receiving corps has to pick up some of the slack. If Santonio Holmes develops into a more legitimate deep threat, this teamís passing game will be a force. If not, then it will be there downfall.
    4. Baltimore Ravens- If the Ravens have a weakness, itís in there passing attack. Steve McNair is the perfect type of quarterback for the Ravens. He wonít make many mistakes, but he wonít light up any score boards either. He doesnít have any top receivers either; his best target is TE Todd Heap. The Ravens are a run first team, and their passing game reflects that/

    Rushing Attack
    1. Baltimore Ravens- The Ravens picked up stud running back Willis McGahee from the bills, and revamped their offensive line with the draft. Barring a major injury, there is no way this team does not have the best running game in the AFC North, they may have one of the best in all of football.
    2. Cincinnati Bengals- The depth of Cincinnatiís running attack sets them apart from the lower half of the division. Rudi Johnson is a workhorse, but they also have change of pace backs like Chris Perry, Kenny Watson, and rookie Kenny Irons.
    3. Pittsburgh Steelers- Willie Parker had a great season last year, and is a stud NFL running back. But there is no depth behind him. Najeh Davenport isnít explosive enough to be the Jerome Bettis-type pile mover that they missed last season. They are playing behind a solid but aging offensive line. But if Parker is injured, this team is in deep trouble.
    4. Cleveland Browns- Reuben Droughns wasnít very successful last year, so they brought in Jamaal Lewis. Trouble is, Jamaal wasnít successful last year either. I doubt he will rebound from his recent struggles with the Browns behind a offensive line that is in shambles.

    Overall Offense
    1. Cincinnati Bengals- The Bengals have one of the top offenses in the NFL.
    2. Baltimore Ravens- Baltimore may lack in the passing department, but their revamped rushing attack should pick up on the slack.
    3. Pittsburgh Steelers- The Steelers arenít hurting in too many areas, but nobody on offense really scares you other than Willie Parker.
    4. Cleveland Browns- The Browns have one of the worst rushing attacks and offensive lines in the country.

    Front Seven
    1. Baltimore Ravens- The Ravens have arguably one of the best front sevens is the country. Ray Lewis is aging but is still a top NFL MLB. Terrell Suggs is a young stud OLB. Bart Scott, Haloti Ngata, and Trevor Pryce also are above average. The loss of Adaluis Thomas undoubtedly huirst, but the Ravens still have enough talent to make up for it.
    2. Pittsburgh Steelers- Pittsburghís being ranked this high has less to do with their own goodness and more to do with the divisionís weakness. Their 34 defense was great, but it lost its star pass rusher in Joey Porter. Farrior and Larry Foote are still solid, but the Steelers front seven isnít looking as scary as it usually has this time of year.
    3. Cincinnati Bengals- The Bengals front seven improved last season, and things are slowly looking up. LB Ahmad Brooks looks to be solid, Domata Peko is only getting better, and they have one of the best pairs of DEís in the country with Justin Smith and Robert Geathers. Their lack of stud linebakers hurts though.
    4. Cleveland Browns- Kameiron Wimbley, Andra Davis, and Willie McGinest should be solid, but no one else on the front seven really will scare anybody. Cleveland did little to improve its pass rush in the draft, and it will still be one of the teamís Achilles Heels.

    Secondary
    1. Baltimore Ravens- McAlister, Rolle, Reed, and Landry might just be the best secondary in the nation. Reed is a playmaking ballhawk, and Mcalister is a top 3 CB in the country. The other two guys arenít two shabby either, and they have another rising star in the secondary in fifth round steal Dawan Landry.
    2. Cincinnati Bengals- Jonathon Joseph can stick on receivers like glue, even if he plays patty cake with balls in the air. Deltha Oneal is solid, but Leon Hall should have the starting job by the end of the season. Madieu Williams is one of the most underated players in the game. Dexter Jackson is a question mark, and I excpect Marvin White to take over his job by mid season
    3. Pittsburgh Steelers- Ike Taylor was disappointing, but if returns to his 2005 form, this teams secondary will be a force. I donít see that happening though. The only thing that prevents this team from being last is Troy Polamalu, who, when healthy is a top 5 safety in this league.
    4. Cleveland Browns- The Browns have one of the games best kept secrets in safety Sean Jones, who racked up over 100 tackles. But the oft injured Leigh Bodden leaves this team hanging up to dry. He is like Mark Prior, he has the potential to be great but he canít seem to stay healthy. This team could have a great secondary, and Eric Wright is promising, but tooo many things have to happen for them to be solid.

    Overall Defense-
    1. Baltimore Ravens- Organized Chaos is easily they best defense in the division.
    2. Cincinnati Bengals- The Bengals have promising stars at every position, but the question remains if they can play up to their potential.
    3. Pittsburgh Steelers- The Steelerís defense pales in comparison to the Super Bowl teamís of 2005.
    4. Cleveland Browns- No way this teamís defensive questions all get positive answers.

    Final Predictions
    1 Cincinnati Bengals- 11-5
    2. Baltimore Ravens- 11-5
    3. Cleveland Brown-6-10
    4. Pittsburgh Steelers- 6-10


    Originally posted by mythbusta
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  • #2
    Good analysis. With our easy 2nd half schedule, 11-5 is likely, and 12-4 isn't out of the question.

    I think Baltimore's lack of passing attack will really hurt them this year, while their defense is another year older and without Adalius Thomas.

    Pittsburgh has a new coach, few offensive playmakers, a secondary that is worse than ours, and I think we saw Roethlisberger's true colors last year.

    Cleveland has a lot of young talent, but this is clearly not their year.

    You have to feel good about the Bengal's chances this year. If we can get the defense to play with some consistency, and to really hit their stride going into the playoffs, I don't see why we shouldn't be talking about a Superbowl appearance.

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    • #3
      ok i'm not going to jump down your throat on some of these rankings but i will say that your Rushing Attack rankings are absurd. Willie Parker is top 5-7 RB in the NFL and the no depth thing is true for everyone of the teams in the NFC North. If Rudi goes down, yall do not have a back that can carry the full load same goes with the Ravens, McGahee goes down, who do they have?? BJ Sams?? there is no way the Steelers should be behind the Ravens or you guys. and i don't see how you can claim that yall have an overall better defense then the steelers when you were ranked LOWER than the browns in total defense last year?? i am trying to be that cool steelers fan you repped me for but those two are absolutely ridiculous.


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      • #4
        An offensive line that is in shambles? Yeah, okay.

        Apparently Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach aren't playing this year. Or maybe you're just still steamed about losing Eric.

        If you're going to do a legit breakdown, maybe get your facts straight.

        Our DL is a big question mark, but hopefully Shaun Smith can provide stability at the nose.

        You're grossly underrating our LB core. Kam Wimbley is already one of the premier pass rushers in the league and he just made the move to OLB last year. Inside we have Davis, D'Qwell Jackson, and Leon Williams (who played great when he was on the field last year and is probably the most talented of the three).

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        • #5
          The Bengals have Kenny Irons now to be our backup RB that is capable of handling the full load.

          If Chris Perry comes back week 6 and contributes we easily have the best RB core in the division, HOWEVER, Perry is too big of a question mark and Irons is a rookie so I can take someone picking Pitt over us but despite Parker being the top RB in the division he's inconsistant and the Steelers lack depth at RB.

          Shaun Smith is good when he wants to be, he's just too lazy and out of shape to be a big impact guy.

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          • #6
            first of all you can't say that Kenny Irons can handle a full NFL load when he hasn't even taken ONE snap in the NFL. he has never gone 16 games long. i love kenny irons cuz i have plenty of friends that go to Auburn but you can't be sure the he can carry an NFL load, not many RB's in the NFL can carry the full NFL load, hence why we see more two RB systems now.

            and secondly, Willie Parker isn't incosistent. our O-line was inconsistent last year, not him.


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            • #7
              The Oline can't play away games then because he could only put together his big games at home.

              Irons is more of a guy to carry the load than Chris Perry is, that's a fact. Like I said since he's a rookie it's hard to base much off of it and ranking Pitt vs. Cincy in RB's is really subjective and I can easily understand someone ranking Pitt over us, I do feel our run offense should be improved by a decent amount next year given the fact that Rudi won't have to carry the load alone.

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              • #8
                i do agree that Irons appears more capable of carrying the load than Perry does, i just thought it odd that you could go ahead and say he could with out hesitation.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 757Dawg View Post
                  An offensive line that is in shambles? Yeah, okay.

                  Apparently Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach aren't playing this year. Or maybe you're just still steamed about losing Eric.

                  If you're going to do a legit breakdown, maybe get your facts straight.

                  Our DL is a big question mark, but hopefully Shaun Smith can provide stability at the nose.

                  You're grossly underrating our LB core. Kam Wimbley is already one of the premier pass rushers in the league and he just made the move to OLB last year. Inside we have Davis, D'Qwell Jackson, and Leon Williams (who played great when he was on the field last year and is probably the most talented of the three).

                  yes it is, which explains your entire lack of offense in the whole existence of the franchise.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by terribletowel39 View Post
                    first of all you can't say that Kenny Irons can handle a full NFL load when he hasn't even taken ONE snap in the NFL. he has never gone 16 games long. i love kenny irons cuz i have plenty of friends that go to Auburn but you can't be sure the he can carry an NFL load, not many RB's in the NFL can carry the full NFL load, hence why we see more two RB systems now.

                    and secondly, Willie Parker isn't incosistent. our O-line was inconsistent last year, not him.
                    How is Willie Parker better than Rudi Johnson and what happens if willie goes down with a season ending injury is kevin Barlow all the sudden going to carry the load on your team. My point is unless you are in an offense with two premier backs such as New orlearns if your starter goes down then your are screwed.

                    secondly I agree with you on pittsburg deffense they are alot better than the bengals although the loss of Porter is going to be hard to replace.

                    thirdly- to the browns fan who actually thinks his team has a chance at winning this year wtf are you thinking. we shut you your offense out last year the 31st or 32nd deffense shut you guys out last season nuff said. Quinn is going to choke in THe NFL like he Chocked at Notre Dame he is not going to amount to anything in the NFL.
                    we will be back in 15 years.

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                    • #11
                      AFC North Preview

                      Passing Game-
                      1. Cincinnati Bengals- The Cincinnati Bengals have one of the top 3 quarterbacks in the league in Carson Palmer. They also have one of the top receivers in Chad Johnson, and a great possession guy in TJ Houshmanzadeh. Even with Chris Henry out, the Bengals have the top passing game in the AFC North.

                      Do they? Their TE isn't much of a Receiving threat, and of the guys behind TJ/CJ, only 1 has received a pass in the NFL. I think you guys should consider signing Troy Brown.. Old? Sure, but a veteran leader and could be a solid slot guy... If teams can stop your run game, the pressure will be on Palmer to get the ball out... McNeal, Glen Holt and Skyler Green haven't proven anything. I give you best passing attack on the mere fact you have the top QB in the division and arguably the best WR, but if CJ starts off slow again, it's going to be hard to recover.. I think Henry out until week 8 could really make some concern.

                      2. Cleveland Browns- This may shock some people, but the Browns have the 2nd best passing game in the AFC North. Charlie Frye is disappointing, but he has all the weapons to be successful. Braylon Edwards, Joe Jurevicious, and Kellen Winslow are a great group for Charlie to throw to. Brady Quinn is also waiting in the wings to be his successor.

                      I believe the passing attack is a 3-hinge, OL, Receivers and QB. Quinn isn't proven and can be erratic. Frye and Anderson are the same.. The OL has upgraded with Steinbach and Thomas, but Thomas still has to prove how good he is, Robert Gallery and Tony Mandarich were top 3 picks as can't miss olineman.. and boy did they miss. I'm not saying that Thomas will boom or bust, but they certainly haven't added any receiving talent, Travis Wilson is their slot guy, unproven, Braylon has to click and prove he was worth the #3 overall pick. He pulls Houdini's in games, Jurevicious has 10 years in and could fall off any time (hasn't started a full 16 game season his entire career). Then they got Tim Carter, who hasn't eclipsed 1000 yards in 6 seasons.. averaging 8-9 games a season that he'll play in before being injured. I don't think Cleveland is #2 or 3 yet. IMO they're still #4 until they prove it.

                      3. Pittsburgh Steelers- The Steelers are looking to rebound from a disappointing season last year. They have a decent passing game. Ben Roethlisberger is a good quarterback, but he lacks weapons. Hines Ward is consistent, but the rest of the receiving corps has to pick up some of the slack. If Santonio Holmes develops into a more legitimate deep threat, this teamís passing game will be a force. If not, then it will be there downfall.

                      I'm not going to brag or make excuses, but Bens done well and we're running a new offense so i'm fine with this. Holmes was the #2 Rookie receiver, no one for-seen the Colston effect. Though, we do have solid depth... Ced Wilson, Nate Washington, Dallas Baker and we're getting Willie Reid back. So, there's plenty of WR depth. I think you have overlooked Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth. If we run Arians New offense I think they'll be utilizing Miller like Indy does Clark, and if so he could be a key receiver this season.

                      4. Baltimore Ravens- If the Ravens have a weakness, itís in there passing attack. Steve McNair is the perfect type of quarterback for the Ravens. He wonít make many mistakes, but he wonít light up any score boards either. He doesnít have any top receivers either; his best target is TE Todd Heap. The Ravens are a run first team, and their passing game reflects that/

                      I think your underrating them. It's hard, Cincy is obviously #1, I'd say right now Baltimore/Pittsburgh could be 2/3 or 3/2.. Derrick Mason is a reliable reciever, Clayton really came on last year nearly getting 1000 yards... The guy to watch however is Demetrius Williams, He could very well make his mark in the AFC North this season.

                      Rushing Attack

                      1. Baltimore Ravens- The Ravens picked up stud running back Willis McGahee from the bills, and revamped their offensive line with the draft. Barring a major injury, there is no way this team does not have the best running game in the AFC North, they may have one of the best in all of football.

                      I'm not sold on McGahee. He hasn't played a full 16 game season yet and that can hurt a team with Championship aspirations. Mike Anderson and Musa Smith are going to be called on a lot more this season. I think they needed a grinder, as McGahee is more of a dancer, but until he plays in purple this is just speculation. Though, McGahee hasn't seen a pro-bowl, neither has Anderson.

                      2. Cincinnati Bengals- The depth of Cincinnatiís running attack sets them apart from the lower half of the division. Rudi Johnson is a workhorse, but they also have change of pace backs like Chris Perry, Kenny Watson, and rookie Kenny Irons.

                      I like this stable of RB's. I think adding Irons was unnecessary, and over the top, but it's a great RB core. However Irons hasn't played a down yet, but I think they could be #2. Though I crunched some #'s and Rudi only gets over 100 yards a game in less than 30% of games. With a RB by committee approach thats not a problem I guess.

                      3. Pittsburgh Steelers- Willie Parker had a great season last year, and is a stud NFL running back. But there is no depth behind him. Najeh Davenport isnít explosive enough to be the Jerome Bettis-type pile mover that they missed last season. They are playing behind a solid but aging offensive line. But if Parker is injured, this team is in deep trouble.

                      I don't know if I see this right, but you're grading us on hypotheticals. If we lose Willie we're screwed. Well odds are if any team loses their franchise RB, their screwed. I don't know how well Baltimore would do without McGahee, Cleveland without Lewis or Cincy without Johnson(Irons/Perry never carried the full load). However we did add Kevan Barlow to be our pile-mover and if thats all he pans out with I'm fine, but we have Najeh, Barlow and Gary Russell, who from what I'm hearing could end up being our #2 RB this season with his workouts, if not this season definitely next season.

                      4. Cleveland Browns- Reuben Droughns wasnít very successful last year, so they brought in Jamaal Lewis. Trouble is, Jamaal wasnít successful last year either. I doubt he will rebound from his recent struggles with the Browns behind a offensive line that is in shambles.

                      I think it was the O-Line more than Droughns as he had 1200 yards the season prior, but he didn't have an effective pass game to take any pressure off of the run game whatsoever last year.

                      Overall Offense
                      1. Cincinnati Bengals- The Bengals have one of the top offenses in the NFL.

                      Agreed. However I still think Chris Henry nixed for 8 games will hurt more than most are forecasting.

                      2. Baltimore Ravens- Baltimore may lack in the passing department, but their revamped rushing attack should pick up on the slack.

                      If McGahee pans out, should, but don't forget, Chris Chester(06 2nd rounder), Ben Grubbs and Marshal Yanda could all be starting this year... they would have a very inexperienced C-RG-RT group.

                      3. Pittsburgh Steelers- The Steelers arenít hurting in too many areas, but nobody on offense really scares you other than Willie Parker.

                      Hines Ward doesn't scare people? He's what a 5-6 time pro-bowler and one of the best in the business? And after the last game of the season last year (not to be rude), but Holmes doesn't scare you? Our talent past them i guess is a mystery because frankly, I don't even know how it's going to roll out.

                      4. Cleveland Browns- The Browns have one of the worst rushing attacks and offensive lines in the country.

                      Very very True. Though Steinbach and Thomas could upgrade it, nothing proved yet.

                      Front Seven
                      1. Baltimore Ravens- The Ravens have arguably one of the best front sevens is the country. Ray Lewis is aging but is still a top NFL MLB. Terrell Suggs is a young stud OLB. Bart Scott, Haloti Ngata, and Trevor Pryce also are above average. The loss of Adaluis Thomas undoubtedly huirst, but the Ravens still have enough talent to make up for it.

                      Agreed!

                      2. Pittsburgh Steelers- Pittsburghís being ranked this high has less to do with their own goodness and more to do with the divisionís weakness. Their 34 defense was great, but it lost its star pass rusher in Joey Porter. Farrior and Larry Foote are still solid, but the Steelers front seven isnít looking as scary as it usually has this time of year.

                      Divisions Weakness? I'd have to say We have one of the strongest defensive divisions. Baltimore is IMO #1. Pitt could be top 5-8, Cincy could be top 10-13 if their pass coverage improves and Cleveland has an amazing LB core.. Wimbley, Williams, Davis, Jackson, McGinnest.

                      As for Pitt, We lost our top pass rusher, but don't downplay the fact we added 2 young studs. I would be against bringing up unproven rookies, but you did in this so It's only fair. Not to mention James Harrison, who has been underrated for Some time. Foote is ver very solid, Farrior is one of the best Buck ILB's in the NFL. I feel that you're overlooking our line. I think we have arguably the best NT (Perhaps Jamal Williams) But Casey Hampton is top 2 in the NFL at NT, Aaron Smith is very underrated and frankly thats what everyone was comparing top 15 Pick Adam Carriker to. And if you want #'s, Brett Keisel put up better stats than Richard Seymour last year.. 55 Tackles, 5.5 Sacks .. vs Seymours 40 Tackles, 3 sacks. I think our DL is underrated. I think Porter will hurt, but I have a feeling Between Harrison and Timmons/Woodley, we'll be ok.


                      3. Cincinnati Bengals- The Bengals front seven improved last season, and things are slowly looking up. LB Ahmad Brooks looks to be solid, Domata Peko is only getting better, and they have one of the best pairs of DEís in the country with Justin Smith and Robert Geathers. Their lack of stud linebakers hurts though.

                      I think Brooks is going to be a monster... and Johnson is solid.. but I agree, you seem to have a lack of playmakers ... and your depth up front is getting ... old. Adams is entering his 14th year, Robinson his 11th, Myers his 10th, Thornton his 9th,

                      4. Cleveland Browns- Kameiron Wimbley, Andra Davis, and Willie McGinest should be solid, but no one else on the front seven really will scare anybody. Cleveland did little to improve its pass rush in the draft, and it will still be one of the teamís Achilles Heels.

                      I wouldn't say their Pass rush is the issue.. I mean, they have a great core LB Group.. Leon Williams stepped up and was awesome, Wimbley had 11 sacks, Dqwell Jackson though undersized is still very good, Andra Davis is still one of the best in the biz at 3-4 ILB. They did grab Antwan Peek who IMO will be a 3rd down Pass rush Specialist. I think their issue is they didn't upgrade that porous DLine. In the 3-4 the LB's make the plays most often, but the DL has to occupy the lineman, Other than Ted Washington(Who's going into his 17th year) no one on that line has much experience or scares you. Robaire Smith, Orien Harris, Mel Purcell and Chase Pittman are all unproven.. Harris has a motor problem (Lazy), Purcell hasn't played 1 full COLLEGE season, and Pittman was lackluster in college, though he did hold the point Ok...

                      Secondary
                      1. Baltimore Ravens- McAlister, Rolle, Reed, and Landry might just be the best secondary in the nation. Reed is a playmaking ballhawk, and Mcalister is a top 3 CB in the country. The other two guys arenít two shabby either, and they have another rising star in the secondary in fifth round steal Dawan Landry.

                      Samari Rolle was getting burned BIG TIME last season.. They haven't upgraded him. But I have to agree.

                      2. Cincinnati Bengals- Jonathon Joseph can stick on receivers like glue, even if he plays patty cake with balls in the air. Deltha Oneal is solid, but Leon Hall should have the starting job by the end of the season. Madieu Williams is one of the most underated players in the game. Dexter Jackson is a question mark, and I excpect Marvin White to take over his job by mid season

                      Here's my concern here, I'm not trying to pimp my team or piss fans off. However, Joseph already has a drug strike against him.. Oneal is going downhill though is a solid nickel. I agree Madieu Williams is underrated. I agree and think White Could be playing SS by midseason.. but your hinging a lot here on unproven players. I think, and this isn't personal, that even adding Hall the Pitt is #2 and Cincy is #3. No offense, but i'll explain below.

                      3. Pittsburgh Steelers- Ike Taylor was disappointing, but if returns to his 2005 form, this teams secondary will be a force. I donít see that happening though. The only thing that prevents this team from being last is Troy Polamalu, who, when healthy is a top 5 safety in this league.

                      Troy is healthy and He's probably the best SS in the league because he's a hard hitter and very versatile. Ike Taylor, word from Tomlin and camp is that he's heavier, faster and playing better than ever, which is bad news for other fans because if thats the case, ... He could be top 10 if he does well this year. I think you're underrating the rest of our group. Now I expect nothing from Colclough. However, DeShea Townsend, though not great, is perfect and solid at what he does.. playing zone, reading plays, blitzing. Bryant McFadden really looked solid taking over #2 last year and likely will have it this year. Here's what I feel you overlooked. Anthony Smith. He started the last 3 games last year, had 18 tackles (6 per game), 2 INT's, passes defended (Including the #5 hit of the year per NFLN on Housh). I think him and McFadden who are more proven than White/Jackson and Hall/Oneal should put us at #2. Ike when on shuts out Chad Johnson, and we only have to play against Chris Henry 1 time next year, which I feel gives us the advantage.. at least the first game.

                      4. Cleveland Browns- The Browns have one of the games best kept secrets in safety Sean Jones, who racked up over 100 tackles. But the oft injured Leigh Bodden leaves this team hanging up to dry. He is like Mark Prior, he has the potential to be great but he canít seem to stay healthy. This team could have a great secondary, and Eric Wright is promising, but tooo many things have to happen for them to be solid.

                      Agreed.

                      Overall Defense-
                      1. Baltimore Ravens- Organized Chaos is easily they best defense in the division.

                      Agreed!

                      2. Cincinnati Bengals- The Bengals have promising stars at every position, but the question remains if they can play up to their potential.

                      I question this because above in the front 7 category you said you lacked studs. I agree Hall/Joseph/Williams/White COULD be a great secondary, but the Bengals have more Question marks in the front 7 than Pittsburgh. Even lackluster last season we were the #9 ranked defense... giving up 300.3 Yards a game. Cincy was #30 at 355.1 yards a game. Other than Hartwell and Myers, no one but rookies were added, and I don't think they're going to instantly move you from #30 to #8. Not that we'll necessarily be the #9 defense, but like I said, I think Pittsburgh still has the edge on defense, as you have on offense.

                      3. Pittsburgh Steelers- The Steelerís defense pales in comparison to the Super Bowl teamís of 2005.

                      Does it really? The only players we lost were Hope and Porter from that starting squad (And Kimo but Keisel upgraded that position). Hope I thought would be hard to replace, but Anthony Smith shined. He's an enforcer back there and he's a ball hawk. I think he'll really show that this season. As for Porter, We did lose him, but we also added Timmons and Woodley... 2 guys, 1 with tons of upside and solid #'s, and 1 with a prolific college career and is a pass-rushing threat immediately. I think we actually upgraded. I love Porter and how fiery he was, but he's not Adalius Thomas and I don't think any player is irreplaceable. Porter got overpaid and Timmons/Woodley can bring the heat as well as anyone.. but we'll see this season.

                      4. Cleveland Browns- No way this teamís defensive questions all get positive answers.

                      Again, Agreed!

                      Final Predictions
                      1 Cincinnati Bengals- 11-5
                      2. Baltimore Ravens- 11-5
                      3. Cleveland Brown-6-10
                      4. Pittsburgh Steelers- 6-10


                      All in all a fair analysis, I've given my thoughts, but I don't see us winning less than 8 games, and I still don't see Cleveland winning 6. Ravens Hinge on a really inexperienced Oline, Samari Rolle struggled all last season and hasn't been upgraded, and they lost what.. 4 starters (Lewis, Pashos, Mulitato, Adalius Thomas)

                      I'm not here to be a prick, I'm just trying to give you guys a fair insight into the Pittsburgh Organization, ask TT39 or MThop05, I really bust my ass getting as much info as I can.

                      I just think you're selling us a little short. I know, New HC, OC, RB/QB/WR/OL Coach and loss of Porter, but We still have LeBeau, Mitchell and Keith and we still have a ton of great players.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by J24 View Post
                        How is Willie Parker better than Rudi Johnson and what happens if willie goes down with a season ending injury is kevin Barlow all the sudden going to carry the load on your team. My point is unless you are in an offense with two premier backs such as New orlearns if your starter goes down then your are screwed.

                        secondly I agree with you on pittsburg deffense they are alot better than the bengals although the loss of Porter is going to be hard to replace.

                        thirdly- to the browns fan who actually thinks his team has a chance at winning this year wtf are you thinking. we shut you your offense out last year the 31st or 32nd deffense shut you guys out last season nuff said. Quinn is going to choke in THe NFL like he Chocked at Notre Dame he is not going to amount to anything in the NFL.
                        Willie Parker: 1494 Yards, 337 Carries, 4.4 Avg, 13TD's, Pro-Bowl
                        Rudi Johnson: 1309 Yards, 341 Carries, 3.8 Avg, 13TD's

                        Perhaps because he did more with Less?

                        Willie is just coming into his own, Rudi is a 7-year proven vet.. I think Parker still has upside where.. Rudi is at his peak. Most people say a RB has a 10 year life span.. if so, Rudi doesn't have much more to give.

                        Agreed about the Defense. Porter will be hard to replace, but he's not irreplaceable. We added 2 guys that can rush the passer, and they're damn good about it too. So it's not like we forgot about it either. Plus, Harrison is pretty fiery in his own right.

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                        • #13
                          Better job this time Mr. STiller.
                          Doesn't matter if it is all fat, if he can move better covered in fat, more power to him. SAINTS-TIGERS

                          WHO DEY, ALL DEY, ERY' DEY

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                          • #14
                            rudi hasnt been a feature back for 7 years though. i think he's better than willie parker or just as good plus weve got Kenny Irons and maybe Chris Perry not to mention a solid 3DRB in kenny watson. Irons is gonna be the ying to rudi's yang this year though i cant wait.

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                            • #15
                              Rudi has had 330+ carries the last 3 years. he is the feature back of the Bengals right now. when you carry the ball that many times, you are the featured back. and kenny irons is good but he is not the chinese symbol you are looking for.


                              Silverback....still the best.

                              +rep to Jakey for the sig

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