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  • since you insist on contridicting me on everything i say, let me prove my points

    310 is pretty far away from 325. And hes nowhere near perfect size for a NT. i remember Laroiy Glover played NT for the Cowboys and despite having everything it took to play the position he failed miserably.
    15lbs is not that much for someone that is 6'1'' or 6'2''. joe staley put on 85 POUNDS.i dont care if that was over a 3 year period. thats alot. i'm sure he will gain weight as he gets older, as that is almost a natural thing. i will agree with you that glover didnt do much as a NT, IMO he would have been a better DE for the 3-4. i'm also not saying that size is everything. you have one example of a disaster NT.(did you not see my post about starting DT's in the league?!?!)

    view Freddy's post. i beleive that is the pin point. size means nothing if they can't use it. leverage, high motor, and initial burst are key.

    the bottom line is, no team will even consider a NT that is under 300lbs. as far as height goes. it goes either way. 6'1'' ish for ppl that beleive in low center gravity kinda thing and can get good leverage. or ppl like teddy who are 6'5'' and just out powers ppl with his massive size. it goes either way. there is no perfect size. but he is close to IDEAL.


    i think he could just fill the void for a year or 2(mabye more) when teddy retires. it is impossible for a team with as many needs that we have to fix them all in one season. or even 2. i'd like to see us address our DE spot first. it would further help the development of Wimbley. it would also force teams to run the ball up the middle more instead of left or right. making them more predictive and leaving us not having to guess which way they are running.

    According to Cleveland.com, Bentley is out for 2007, will need another surgery on that knee for the same injury, and his career is in jeopardy. His agent guarantees he will play again at a pro bowl level, but what is he supposed to say?

    I didnt expect him to play this year honestly, and our draft strategy must proceed such that he is not even on our team.
    what is with all the staph infections? we've been having a lot of problems with this the past couple of years. K2 ended up having one. B easy had one. Russel and Bently had one this year. baxter might have had one last year, i dont remember. i've read that they've done tests at the cleveland clinic and have found nothing wrong. mabye the canadians(or those damn michigan fans) are throwing something in the lake and we're getting the result :!: :shock:

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    • "Later this week, the team's headquarters will be vacated so a special antiseptic spray can be applied to help combat staph, a highly contagious virus."- Thank you!
      FINALLY

      i posted my last thought not knowing that. thank you for the info.

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      • Oshinowu is listed at 6'1, 305 on the Browns page, what he weighed in at his pro day. So if you think thats perfect size for a NT, you go make your own team, because i would love to see it.

        I only contradict you because your so off. You said 6'2, 315, hardly!

        He doesnt have the burst needed for DE and doesnt have the bulk for NT, thats why he was released, then resigned for the practice squad.

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        • Heres a pic of him....
          http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/multi...&player_id=551

          looks slim for a NT. even for a DT in the 4-3.[/quote]

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          • Browns | Team will be aggressive in free agency
            Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:53:30 -0800

            Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports the Cleveland Browns have $30 million in cap room and are planning to be aggressive in free agency.

            Browns | Team might go after Clements in free agency
            Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:13:10 -0800

            Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports the Cleveland Browns might go after Buffalo Bills CB Nate Clements in free agency.

            Browns | Team stepping up negotiations with Fraley
            Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:56:14 -0800

            Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports the Cleveland Browns have stepped up negotiations with C Hank Fraley.

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            • Originally posted by JoeMontainya
              Oshinowu is listed at 6'1, 305 on the Browns page, what he weighed in at his pro day. So if you think thats perfect size for a NT, you go make your own team, because i would love to see it.

              I only contradict you because your so off. You said 6'2, 315, hardly!

              He doesnt have the burst needed for DE and doesnt have the bulk for NT, thats why he was released, then resigned for the practice squad.
              I think he weighted 310 out of college.
              i based my 310 figure from what you said^^^. not one of my posts said he was 315. and ONE INCH is not "so far off".

              i dont know why you think 5 or 10 lbs and one inch is so much. its really not.

              i do agree that he wouldnt make a very good DE. i think Glover might have made a better DE. if there was confusion in my statment regarding that, my apologies. i dont think Oshionawu has that burst needed. but i think he's good enough to clog the running lanes if he needed to. and when i say this, i mean this only if we choose not to address this position this year or even next year. (tho i would be upset if we didnt at least attempt to address it next offseason)

              he was released, signed to the practice squad, then signed to the active roster.

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              • Originally posted by JoeMontainya
                I like Charlie Frye now guys! I played 6 seasons in madden 2007 and hes up to a 95 overall rating. His arm power is still at 88 though. i dont do training camp.

                IMO best case scenario, Charlie Frye will be a Chad Pennington type.
                HAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

                Tell me, does Charlie make all the same mistakes in Madden that he does in real life.

                Staring down receivers, throwing across his body, throwing across the field, tries to hard to make a play resulting in something bad...

                That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard...Ryan Leaf was good in Madden, lets resign him...

                He'll be ungodly, he was a 99 overall as soon as I got his awareness up...

                Originally posted by some idiot
                I only contradict you because your so off. You said 6'2, 315, hardly!
                1" and 10lbs IS SO FAR OFF....Hardly!

                Ryan "Don't Call it a Comeback" Leaf will lead the Cleveland Browns to the 2007 Super Bowl because he was good in Madden after I got his AWR upped.

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                • I need to inlist the help of my fellow Browns fans.

                  Please go to the fanasty section and vote for my "Hot women draft". I am up against sarf, and while i realize his team may have a slight edge, i am relatively close (as of now) and i think my team is better than everyone elses....i don't want to be booted out yet.


                  Browns fan UNITE!!

                  DChess resizing inc.

                  Reality is relative.

                  We don't give a DAMN for the whole state of Michigan

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                  • Originally posted by j05son
                    Originally posted by JoeMontainya
                    I like Charlie Frye now guys! I played 6 seasons in madden 2007 and hes up to a 95 overall rating. His arm power is still at 88 though. i dont do training camp.

                    IMO best case scenario, Charlie Frye will be a Chad Pennington type.
                    HAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

                    Tell me, does Charlie make all the same mistakes in Madden that he does in real life.

                    Staring down receivers, throwing across his body, throwing across the field, tries to hard to make a play resulting in something bad...

                    That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard...Ryan Leaf was good in Madden, lets resign him...

                    He'll be ungodly, he was a 99 overall as soon as I got his awareness up...
                    Alright I think Joe Montainya was kidding although I did get Kamerion Wimbley up to a 98 in my Madden.

                    However, we can have a great team with Charlie Frye as our quarterback. IMO (thanks Freddy), all his major faults are easily fixable with a good coach, work, and some protection.

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                    • Originally posted by JoeMontainya
                      IMO best case scenario, Charlie Frye will be a Chad Pennington type.
                      there are scary similarities arnt there? i think that would be best case scenario.

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                      • Originally posted by JSimmsy21
                        Originally posted by JoeMontainya
                        IMO best case scenario, Charlie Frye will be a Chad Pennington type.
                        there are scary similarities arnt there? i think that would be best case scenario.
                        Actually, think Frye has a better chance of being Jake Plummer (without mistakes 8) ) like.

                        I think you guys are a little over critical of his arm. It is definitely stronger (by quite a bit) than Pennington's, and while it isn't a cannon by any means, it is certainly adequate, imo. Throw in his mobility, very solid accuracy, natural playmaking ability (its there, just needs harnessed) and intangibles and he has potential.

                        I'm not saying he is going to be a pro bowler or HOFer or anything, but i certainly think he can be better than Pennington.

                        DChess resizing inc.

                        Reality is relative.

                        We don't give a DAMN for the whole state of Michigan

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                        • For real, everyone is way underrating Frye's arm. His arm is not Brett Favre's but it is not as weka like Brees' or Penningtons' in a sense, though those two's games are all about making reads and using great accuracy on their throws. If we get 2 good guards and Adrian Peterson then Frye will actually get a chance to throw this year and we'll find out if he can win games with a running game and protection.

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                          • Browns | McCutcheon not expected back
                            Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:54:49 -0800

                            Tony Grossi, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns CB Daylon McCutcheon will likely not return to the team in 2007. McCutcheon missed the 2006 season after having knee surgery in training camp.

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                            • For real, everyone is way underrating Frye's arm. His arm is not Brett Favre's but it is not as weka like Brees' or Penningtons' in a sense, though those two's games are all about making reads and using great accuracy on their throws. If we get 2 good guards and Adrian Peterson then Frye will actually get a chance to throw this year and we'll find out if he can win games with a running game and protection.
                              Heres the difference, when Charlie throws harder, his accurancy dramatically decreases. I think this is due to him either rushing it (OL) or he just isnt very calm in the pocket. I liked it alot better when Anderson played and hes was supposed to be our 3rd string QB.

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                              • Originally posted by diabsoule
                                Browns | McCutcheon not expected back
                                Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:54:49 -0800

                                Tony Grossi, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns CB Daylon McCutcheon will likely not return to the team in 2007. McCutcheon missed the 2006 season after having knee surgery in training camp.
                                Expected.

                                DChess resizing inc.

                                Reality is relative.

                                We don't give a DAMN for the whole state of Michigan

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