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    With the season over and a crushing loss to the Steelers, it is evident that the Browns need major help...well everywhere, but definitely in the defensive front 7.

  • #2
    Linebackers, DEs please.........

    RT as well............

    Find a #1 WR in FA, hopefully.

    Of course, it all depends on what happens with Holmgren and Mangini's Monday meeting. We'll see what direction we go before we start saying what is the most glaring need in the draft.

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    • #3
      I thnk the 34 should be done away with. We've been trying it for what 6 years? That being said if we switch to a 43, we only need 5 of the front 7. Lol. Rogers is a beast in the 43. I would like to draft Prince Amukamara in the first. We can get a real good receiver in the second. Need a right tackle, maybe in the third.
      Last edited by MattyFos; 01-02-2011, 07:25 PM. Reason: Had to add "need" in front of "5 of the front 7"

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      Originally posted by CameronCropper
      I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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      • #4
        So with the loss today, the Browns are picking 6th.

        Yay for progress!
        Last edited by kalbears13; 01-03-2011, 12:12 AM.

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        • #5
          Won't there be a coin flip between 5th and 6th with the Cardinals?

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          Originally posted by CameronCropper
          I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MattyFos View Post
            Won't there be a coin flip between 5th and 6th with the Cardinals?
            I think it goes SOS, divisional record and then coin flip.

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            • #7
              Gotcha!
              Ok, now that Mangini is out. Who are you hoping H&H bring in to coach. There's a ton of Holmgren disciples out there.
              Gruden
              Mooch
              Mornhinweg
              Other coaches
              Fox
              Cowher
              Fisher
              I'm sure I'm missing others. In his presser Holmgren said that "money isn't an option" when it comes to getting the HC. So any of those coaches are, theoretically, possible. I wish we could get Mornhinweg to be OC. But it's not possible, because it'd be a lateral move. I trust Holmgren to make the right decision. I would like to see McDaniels in as OC. But I don't think H&H would bring in a guy that neither of them are familiar with.
              I have a feeling it'll be Mornhinweg as HC. He's from Holmgren's tree and was with Heckert in Philly. It makes too much sense to not happen.

              In Holmgren we trust!

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              Originally posted by CameronCropper
              I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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              • #8
                I would love Jim Zorn to come in and work with McCoy

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                Originally posted by CameronCropper
                I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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                • #9
                  "We didn't win enough" comes off as more of an excuse for a team that had one of the toughest schedules and is definitely better than last years squad. Clearly then, Holmgren has a direction for the team that he thinks will not coincide with Mangini. I'm wondering if that has anything to do with Mangini's philosophy about the type of guys he would bring in-high character types without any off field incidents at all.

                  I'm not advocating for this to happen but it looks like a possibility-if rumored top candidate Marty Mornhinweg is brought in I actually think Cam Newton could be a target for Holmgren and Heckert. McCoy wasn't necessarily drafted to be a franchise QB and there wasn't consensus on taking him. I think it's conceivable he might be looked at still as a guy who could be a serviceable starter but not much more. If things had gone to plan he would not have even seen the field and drafting a QB #1 would not be much of a debate. With the firing of Mangini it seems like Holmgren is following a plan he already put in place, and in that, could be drafting a big time QB prospect.

                  Heckert brought back Vick and has evaluated McNabb his whole career, if he is sold on Cam, it's a done deal. He also brought in Kolb, who in my opinion is a bigger armed McCoy, point is, his evaluation of Cam will hold weight. Of course Mornhinweg also coached all three and is being praised for his work with Vick. Then there's Holmgren with final say, who drafted a dual threat in Seneca years ago to be a QB, when some thought he needed a position change. If he thinks Newton will be a star it won't matter what fans/analysts think of Colt.

                  Finnally our draft position makes the chances of drafting Cam fairly good. IMO Buffalo will not draft him, and neither will Arizona or Cincy. Our situation is more stable than those places-Holmgren will be here for a good while-until the team is contending, and McCoy could be starting for at least two seasons. If McCoy proves them wrong and turns out to be a good long term starter then they have a valuable bargaining chip.

                  I like the potential of McCoy but I also liked Frye-its still very debatable if Colt is a franchise QB. Heckert and Holmgren evaluated Harrison after last season's breakout and still didn't consider him a franchise type back when many analysts were touting him as a fantasy keeper.
                  Last edited by Brown Leader; 01-04-2011, 03:13 PM.

                  Originally posted by borg9
                  Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?

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                  • #10
                    @Browns

                    IN-TER-EST-ING!!1!1!!!1!1!!

                    Never pieced together that puzzle like you. I like the way your mind works. I don't know how I feel about Cam. But I trust H&H. If they go that route then I think it'll work out. I want Morningwood. That was Lions fans nickname for Morhninweg.. Haha

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                    Originally posted by CameronCropper
                    I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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                    • #11
                      Scheduled interviews;

                      Perry Fewell DC, Giants
                      Pat Shumur OC, Rams
                      Mike Mularkey OC, Falcons
                      Marty Mornhinweg OC, Eagles

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                      Originally posted by CameronCropper
                      I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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                      • #12
                        I'll take Mornhinweg, and with that I really do not want Cam Newton on the Browns.... I'd still take the top receiver available, check McCoy out for another year before just throwing in the towel...

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                        • #13
                          You guys will be lucky if you get Morninwheg. He'll take your offense to a whole new level. He'll make Colt McCoy look like the new Joe Montana.

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                          • #14
                            @mdmgrand
                            Holmgren has said that he will take a mid-round QB in every draft. I'm assuming he's just trying to find a gem like Brady.. Cam would be too high of a pick for Holmgren to "take and test" but like I've said before "In Holmgren we trust". Plus when Brown Leader wrote that he was throwing poo against the wall and seeing if it'd stick. I doubt it sticks, but who knows.

                            @Morton
                            I don't understand why you have such bad REP. I love your comment. I, too, like Mornhinweg. I think he has a great offensive mind and I think since his firing from Detroit (8 years) he has had a lot of time to learn and grow. A lot of that time (maybe all of it) has been under Andy Reid and it seems like Mornhinweg calls a good game.
                            With stability at the top of the Browns organization; Mornhinweg can take this team to the next level. Heckert the former GM of the Eagles, who drafted Jackson, McCoy, Kolb, and Maclin, also resurrected McVick. Then Mornhinweg has essentially made McVick a pocket passer who can run when things get tight rather than looking to run first.

                            Heckert + Holmgren + Mornhinweg= good times in Cleveland.

                            P.S. Morton. I wish I could add some REP for you, but my rep counts for NUZZING!

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                            Originally posted by CameronCropper
                            I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MattyFos View Post
                              Heckert + Holmgren + Mornhinweg= good times in Cleveland.
                              EDIT

                              Heckert + Holmgren + Mornhinweg - Mangini - Daboll = good times in Cleveland

                              Shout out to kalbears13. Best DC sig'er EVER!!!

                              Originally posted by CameronCropper
                              I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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