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  • #16
    One of these guys at #6 si vous plait:

    AJ Green-WR
    Nick Fairley-DT
    Da'Quan Bowers-DE
    Robert Quinn-DE
    Patrick Peterson-CB
    Marcell Dareus-DT
    Prince Amukamara-CB
    Julio Jones-WR

    I have a sneaking suspicion that whoever our new head coach is will implement the 4-3 base defense...which means we'll need 2 new starting DEs and 2 new starting linebackers immediately. Not a huge deal considering we needed front 7 help in any scenario, but it effects our draft needs a lot. Bowers and Fairley are likely higher priorities if we run a 4-3 compared to guys like Quinn and Dareus if we stay in a 3-4.

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    • #17
      I thought Holmgren said he'd like to take a QB in every draft? Emphasis on the a. If things could have worked out he would have drafted Bradford so I don't think his record of avoiding 1st round QBs applies.

      The philosophy of, if you don't have a franchise one, applies here and Scott has posted about the success rate of 1st round QBs as opposed to later ones-I think we should be prepared for a QB in the first round.

      Originally posted by borg9
      Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MattyFos View Post
        Scheduled interviews;

        Perry Fewell DC, Giants
        Pat Shumur OC, Rams
        Mike Mularkey OC, Falcons
        Marty Mornhinweg OC, Eagles
        Curious how Browns fans feel about this one.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by NGSeiler View Post
          Curious how Browns fans feel about this one.
          I don't know much about him or the Rams offense for that matter. Fow what it's worth. It seems like he had less, if it's possible, talent at wide receiver than the Browns. A better running back than the Browns. A better Qb (considering we had 3 different QB's starting this year) and a not-so-good offensive line (Come on, no matter who you have on the line you're not better than Thomas, Mack and Steinbach)

          So I would say that the two offenses are similar in personnel and Shumur's O outyarded the Browns by 13 yards per game and by a little over a point per game. So I don't know how much of an upgrade that would be. BUT, the HC's main job is delegating power and if Shumur can bring in a good QB coach/OC/DC (if needed) then it all comes down to the type of philosophy he has.

          What kind of game did he call? Daboll (Browns soon to be ex-OC) called..
          Run
          Run
          Run
          Punt

          Run
          Run
          Trick play
          Punt

          Run
          Pass
          Run
          Trick play punt

          Shout out to kalbears13. Best DC sig'er EVER!!!

          Originally posted by CameronCropper
          I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MattyFos View Post
            What kind of game did he call?
            It was rather simplistic and conservative for most of the year. His strong supporters argue that's what it had to be with a rookie QB and limited talent at receiver. His critics said there could have been more creativity and diversity in his run and pass calls. Bradford rarely threw the ball down field, the staff seemed to prefer quick drops and short routes to minimize mistake and help keep him upright. That worked at times, not so much in other games.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NGSeiler View Post
              It was rather simplistic and conservative for most of the year. His strong supporters argue that's what it had to be with a rookie QB and limited talent at receiver. His critics said there could have been more creativity and diversity in his run and pass calls. Bradford rarely threw the ball down field, the staff seemed to prefer quick drops and short routes to minimize mistake and help keep him upright. That worked at times, not so much in other games.

              Wow that is eerily similar to the Mangini/Daboll offense. But of course you work with what you have. The Rams and Browns could probably randomly select a new WR corp out of the phone book. Does Bradford have a strong arm? I think the Browns played so conservatively because IMO McCoy hasn't shown me that be can throw it 25+ yards consistently and accurately.

              Shout out to kalbears13. Best DC sig'er EVER!!!

              Originally posted by CameronCropper
              I've seen my fair share of nasty porn in my days, things that are much worse than Rex Ryan's videos, but something about knowing that Rex is behind the camera makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable.

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              • #22
                What I really like about this draft is that the best player available when we pick will most likely be at a position of need for us...

                Draft is really heavy on DL, some really nice WR talent in Green, Jones and Baldwin (Blackmon went back to school) and some really talented corners in Peterson and Prince. So no matter how the first 5 picks turn out, we're set for a stud at a position of need.

                Let's get some activity going in the Cleveland sub-forum!

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                • #23
                  Would you guys rather have Marcel Dareus or Julio Jones?

                  Beastly sig by BoneKrusher

                  Super Bowl XLIV Champions
                  WHO DAT!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
                    Would you guys rather have Marcel Dareus or Julio Jones?
                    Dareus..........

                    Doesn't matter if we switch schemes, front 7 needs upgraded minus Rubin.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
                      Would you guys rather have Marcel Dareus or Julio Jones?
                      Julio. The front 7 needs help, but IMO, a great WR will help Colt develop, and that's by far the most important thing for this team right now.

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                      • #26
                        Personally I don't like Julio but when it comes to need, you can't go wrong with either.

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                        • #27
                          I think it's a big mistake to shift to a 43 defense and a rather poor draft to attempt find solid 43 prospects outside of undertackles. We ought to pay Ryan whatever he wants. Jauron/Wannstedt is more than a few steps backward.

                          Originally posted by borg9
                          Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brown Leader View Post
                            I think it's a big mistake to shift to a 43 defense and a rather poor draft to attempt find solid 43 prospects outside of undertackles. We ought to pay Ryan whatever he wants. Jauron/Wannstedt is more than a few steps backward.
                            Ryan already inked as DC in Dallas. I don't want to switch to 4-3 as it'll take us a couple years to rework the front 7 instead of upgrading a few spots in the 3-4 in one good draft and FA.

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                            • #29
                              I think there is a fairly decent chance that we will be in a position to get Green instead of Jones. I can easily see the 5 teams drafting ahead of us passing on Green.
                              And proud of it!!!

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                              • #30
                                I have serious doubts that Green falls to 6. If he does great, but guys who are arguably the best player in the draft don't fall out of the top 5 picks. If Carolina and Buffalo don't take him I think Cincy will barring something bizarre.

                                I hope we get Bowers or Quinn. With the switch to the 4-3 we need some pass rushers for serious.

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