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  • #31
    Originally posted by thule View Post
    Justin King below guys like Bowman and Thomas? BTW what makes Jenkings fit as a corner in our scheme.

    That was my fault I really meant to put King in but must have slipped my mind. Jenkins would fit in fine... he has good height 6'1 and is 208 lbs, pretty physical and well help support the run. (40 tck and 4 tfl last season) He had 4 INT last season showing he is capable of getting his hands on the ball.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by NJ_J_Witt_fan View Post
      That was my fault I really meant to put King in but must have slipped my mind. Jenkins would fit in fine... he has good height 6'1 and is 208 lbs, pretty physical and well help support the run. (40 tck and 4 tfl last season) He had 4 INT last season showing he is capable of getting his hands on the ball.
      Physical...either I'm watching the wrong player or I need to see more film. He looks weak at the point of attack. 208 seems extremely generous given that he is extremely lanky and doesn't have a lot of meat on his bones. I like him as a player just don't know if I buy him as a great fit. I'll have to watch more film on him.

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      • #33
        almost forgot two DL guys I like-

        DE Brian Johnson- Gardner-Webb- 6-5 280: He is a guy I like better than Langford, and will likely get drafted later. He is more athletic and seems to be a little more refined pass rushing. May need to bulk up a little and add strength. To me he seems to be a perfect fit for this system.

        DT Dre Moore- Maryland- 6-4 311: Strong run stuffer that uses good leverage. Pretty quick for his size as well. Seems to be really coming around now, and has a high ceiling.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by thule View Post
          Physical...either I'm watching the wrong player or I need to see more film. He looks weak at the point of attack. 208 seems extremely generous given that he is extremely lanky and doesn't have a lot of meat on his bones. I like him as a player just don't know if I buy him as a great fit. I'll have to watch more film on him.
          You are right to an extent.. by no means is he a press corner that is going to come up and jam WRs on every play, but he will hand fight a bit and try to re-route them. He also will fight for position with the ball in the air.

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          • #35
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZszReqQELY

            Here is a highlight clip of Ohio State's 06 defense look for #2

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            • #36
              I'm on the McFadden Bandwagon because, well, he's a badass. But, I will probably get off soon. If we'll draft McFadden I won't be dissapointed, but I think we should go CB/WR/NT in the first round (in that order, because we still don't know if a legit NT prospect will rise the board), and then go after Ray Rice, Felix Jones or Jamaal Charles in the later rounds. There are many intersting WR prospects next year, we'll have to consider the value of the pick. There will be a legit top-10 CB pick in next year's draft? We'll see.


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              • #37
                I am not the biggest Okam fan, but if we came away with Jackson, Felix Jones and could get Okam in the second, I would say the draft would be cause for a lot of excitement.

                Throw in a corner or two, and I would buy season tickets.

                I am on the record with this, I am developing a crush on Jackson and Felix Jones. I think Jones is really underrated, but by draft time he wont be.
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                • #38
                  I actually think Felix Jones is overrated. Everyone is bringing him up, calling him "the sleeper behind McFadden that nobody knows about", when in actuality the opposite is happening and everyone is saying that. I don't like his running style. Too upright, not very shifty... north/south runner with good speed, but I want more. Ray Rice is the guy I like.

                  fryman,
                  What makes you think Dre Moore is turning the corner? He had 1 tackle last week.

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                  • #39
                    D-Unit-

                    I would agree he runs upright, and he isn't the shiftiest (is that a word) guy in the world. I am attracted to his vision. He seems to find holes, and is gone when he does.

                    And with Jackson, I am not as convinced as some that he is fast. A lot of people were comparing him to Ginn at draft time, and I didnt think it was fair. He doesnt seem near that fast to me. However, his routes are good. He doesnt seem to round his routes off near as much as Ginn does/did.
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                    • #40
                      I love that Ray Rice is getting alot of love in this forum, but if he is the target RB the boy's will have to take him early. I have seen him play in person 8 times over the last couple of seasons and he is a very special back. He has great vision and explodes through the hole with zero hesitation. Ray has a great first step for a RB lacking top end speed and sheds tackles with ease. Mark him down for another 1,500+ yard, 20TD season. The most special part of RR game is that he pretty much is the Rutgers offense. Teams stack the box, knowing he is going to get the ball and he still manages to break loose. His draft stock is alot like Antoine Cason's; if he runs a decent 40 his stock his going to skyrocket. Either way imo he is a lock for the second round at worst ,depending on which underclassmen declare. If everyone and their mother delcares this year he can simply stay in school and be a consensous 1st rounder in 2009

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by NJ_J_Witt_fan View Post
                        I love that Ray Rice is getting alot of love in this forum, but if he is the target RB the boy's will have to take him early. I have seen him play in person 8 times over the last couple of seasons and he is a very special back. He has great vision and explodes through the hole with zero hesitation. Ray has a great first step for a RB lacking top end speed and sheds tackles with ease. Mark him down for another 1,500+ yard, 20TD season. The most special part of RR game is that he pretty much is the Rutgers offense. Teams stack the box, knowing he is going to get the ball and he still manages to break loose. His draft stock is alot like Antoine Cason's; if he runs a decent 40 his stock his going to skyrocket. Either way imo he is a lock for the second round at worst ,depending on which underclassmen declare. If everyone and their mother delcares this year he can simply stay in school and be a consensous 1st rounder in 2009
                        He sounds like a reach in Round 2, safe in Round 3 and a steal in Round 4. I'd be ok spending a 3rd on him, but that's as high as I'd go.

                        I only see McFadden and Stewart in Round 1.
                        In round 2, Slaton, Hart, Choice... I don't see Rice in Round 2... yet.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                          fryman,
                          What makes you think Dre Moore is turning the corner? He had 1 tackle last week.
                          What I really meant is he is developing very quickly, though I do think he will end up with a pretty respectable year as far as stats go. The guy has VERY good technique for only being in like his 5th or 6th year of football. Plays more of a true NT run-stuffer role from what I have seen, yet still gets push. Tonight will be a good chance to evaluate him more.

                          Definitely not a guy that would be an immediate solution if we lose Ferguson completely, but I like his potential.

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                          • #43
                            Damn I cant believe they put up 51. I didnt think they would score that much all year

                            edit: whoops that was supposed to go in the browns pick update
                            Last edited by Im_a_Romosexual; 09-17-2007, 12:59 AM.

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                            • #44
                              So most of you know I'm extremely high on Chris Long. However I just can't see us going DE with our first pick. Should digging a bit deeper. I took a look at Kipers latest big board.

                              I saw Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina.
                              Defensive Tackle
                              6' 5" 288 lbs.
                              Speed: 4.92 (unofficial)

                              Probably one of the most unheralded defensive NFL Prospects in the nation, Kentwan Balmer has been moved permanently inside to defensive tackle for his senior year. After fighting through a high ankle sprain during his junior year Balmer looks ready to have a break out senior campaign and close out the 2007 season as a top flight NFL Draft Prospect.

                              Balmer finished his junior season (2006) with 16 total tackle (14 solo) 2.5 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks, 2 pass breakups and 1 quarterback hurry. His stats don’t make him sound to impressive, but he wasn’t 100% last year and only started the final eight games. He made his first start against Miami at defensive tackle last year and seemed to really excel on the inside. Balmer has the talent when healthy to make an impact and by all reports heading into the 2007 season he is performing at an elite level.

                              As a sophomore in 2005 Balmer played in all 11 games and even started at defensive end the final three. Despite limited action he finished with 17 tackles, 5 tackles for loss, 1 sack and 5 quarterback hurries. In 2004 he was the only true freshman on the roster to see action.

                              Balmer was a prize recruit coming out of high school, he was a member of the North Carolina Shrine Bowl Team and finished his senior season with 113 tackles, 12 sacks, eight pass breakups and six fumble recoveries. Balmer has the size and ability to play defensive end or tackle and should really shine at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine, that along with a strong senior season could easily propel him into the first three rounds of the 2008 NFL Draft.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by NJ_J_Witt_fan View Post
                                The consensus between everyone here believes that NT, and CB are the two biggest weaknesses of the team. Two of the top three picks should be used on either of the two and the third pick is probably going to be a luxary pick ( RB/WR depending on the value when it is time to select. I took some time to gather up some prospect that imo would be good selections for each of the three top picks.

                                1st RD Considerations in order of Value

                                1. Darren McFadden RB, Arkansas (JR)
                                2. Kenny Phillips FS, Miami (Too much value to pass on)
                                3. DeSean Jackson WR, Cal (JR)
                                4. Steve Slaton RB, West Virginia (JR)
                                5. Antoine Cason CB, Arizona ( must run a good 40 time)
                                6. Jonathan Stewart RB, Oregon (JR)
                                7. Malcom Jenkins CB, Ohio State (JR)
                                8. Aqib Talib CB, Kansas (JR RS)
                                9. Frank Okam DT, Texas
                                10. Zack Bowman CB, Nebraska (INJ)
                                11. Terrell Thomas CB, USC (INJ)
                                Was just wondering why you have Okam listed in the top 10 and not Glenn Dorsey who most consider the best DT in the upcoming draft.
                                Whats up buttercup!

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