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  • #46
    Ok, i'm out, it's blatantly obvious where this is going.....
    Originally posted by 21ST
    He was protecting his self
    Originally posted by tjsunstein
    From what? His leg?
    Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
    That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
    "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

    DeMarcus Ware

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    • #47
      Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post
      Ok, i'm out, it's blatantly obvious where this is going.....
      I'd love to see your thoughts in the 2008 dallas draft thread.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by cowboysforever View Post
        Well, I can disagree that Carp and Burnett have not been ideal but THEY DON'T GET TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!

        We like to stockpile 1st and 2nd rounder for "depth" while we have 7th round corners, unloved FA, and inept SS wallowing around the Defensive backfield.

        Seeign the amout of resources on our D in terms of $$$$$$$$ and seeing the performance makes me sick.
        As always, that's just your idea. You don't know why Carpenter or Burnett don't start, maybe it's because for the coaches they're not good enough. I want to see Carpenter succeed like you, but so far he hasn't shown anything, other than that single performance against Seattle. Wade Phillips makes a great job with his LB, a lot of players had their beast season under Phillips. So there's a reason if Carpenter barely see the field.
        And Bradie James hasn't been bad in coverage this year...

        Yesterday we didn't give up so many pass yards because of poor coverages by James or the other LB's, it was because the WR's were wide open on the underneath routes all day.
        I don't know why, but we played vanilla, we sat back and Campbell picked us apart. With the exception of the first drive, our defense wasn't bad until the Redskins had the ball with us leading 28 to 16. That drive really made me mad. We were afraid of getting beat deep, and we allowed the reskins WR's to be open in short and intermediate routes. It was sort of a prevent defense, and it sucked.
        We need Anthony Henry back, Reeves can't cover the short routes...


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        • #49
          It's sad cause Jason was flawless all day, if he ran he would have a TD, but he tried to make the perfect cap on the drive by throwing a TD but did it to easily therefore throwing it short.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Modano View Post
            As always, that's just your idea. You don't know why Carpenter or Burnett don't start, maybe it's because for the coaches they're not good enough. I want to see Carpenter succeed like you, but so far he hasn't shown anything, other than that single performance against Seattle. Wade Phillips makes a great job with his LB, a lot of players had their beast season under Phillips. So there's a reason if Carpenter barely see the field.
            And Bradie James hasn't been bad in coverage this year...

            Yesterday we didn't give up so many pass yards because of poor coverages by James or the other LB's, it was because the WR's were wide open on the underneath routes all day.
            I don't know why, but we played vanilla, we sat back and Campbell picked us apart. With the exception of the first drive, our defense wasn't bad until the Redskins had the ball with us leading 28 to 16. That drive really made me mad. We were afraid of getting beat deep, and we allowed the reskins WR's to be open in short and intermediate routes. It was sort of a prevent defense, and it sucked.
            We need Anthony Henry back, Reeves can't cover the short routes...
            I agree we need healthy CB to play better but part of the reason our Corners play loose is b/c our safeties are not very good in coverage in Cover 1 -- Cover 2 -- 2 Deep.

            Redskins have among the worst passing attacks in the NFL and they looked like All Stars yesterday. They really looked great. Good for them but ......

            Recurring theme with our Pass Defense and Thule has rightly mentioned this team has yet to learn how to play proper Zone D -- which is even more than a bit disappointing.

            Again, lots of money here and not the production to match IMHO. Just frustrating. I almost blew a vein in my head watching them yesterday and versus the Giants. Luckily neither Eli nor Cambell are special.
            Last edited by cowboysforever; 11-19-2007, 11:04 AM.

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            • #51
              The proper game to evaluate Roy will be against the Packers. If he doesnt give up any big plays against them then I guess we can all shut up.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by DSlay4 View Post
                The proper game to evaluate Roy will be against the Packers. If he doesnt give up any big plays against them then I guess we can all shut up.
                That is as arbitrary as saying because he gave up plays yesterday he is the worst of all time. Enuff is enuff, his body of work as an NFL SS is poor -- that is why he is bashed.

                We used to measure Roy's worth in TFL, Fumbles and INTs .... now we say "Ooooh, great tackle for a 15 yard gain."

                How far the mighty have fallen.

                What he does v Greenbay will not change any right minded non-Cowboy fans' opinion.

                And factually speaking, Greenbay is a WR driven system with a below average running game and non-existant TE.

                So, I would not expect to see much of Roy in a positive light at all (or negative). He should be inconspicuous..... unless he gets caught in coverage...
                Last edited by cowboysforever; 11-19-2007, 12:14 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by cowboysforever View Post
                  I really have nothing more to add about Roy other than he should not be playing in anything other than Special Teams. He does not look like a professional football player out there.

                  Other Observations (Negative):
                  1) We are not run blocking AT ALL. Especially the Tackles.
                  2) We played very conservatively on D.
                  3) Our Kickoff Coverage is going backawards
                  4) Tank is horrid versus the Run. Just abysmal.
                  5) Where were our other 3 LB this game?

                  Positive:
                  1) TO is being used deep effectively
                  2) Ware
                  3) Miles Austin looks to break one soon. Much much better than Thompson. Looks so much faster.
                  4) Ratliff
                  5) 9-1


                  Why is it when Austin returns kicks you can say he "looks to break one soon", you could say the same for any return man...I wouldnt say off this game he was much better then Thompson, and you could also say for Thompson that he looks 2 break one soon as well...


                  and as far as our pass coverage, im just curious why we didnt attack the qb, campbell has shown he will make mistakes under pressure and it seemed like we were sitting back all game, I thought we were supposed to be doing the exact opposite this year? no new packages, no confusing pre snap movement, stunts or inside blitzes, I just saw a majority of 4 man rushes with Ware playing out of his mind





                  Originally posted by Scott Wright
                  I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                  • #54
                    Did Tank Johnson play yesterday? I don't remember seeing him at all.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                      Did Tank Johnson play yesterday? I don't remember seeing him at all.
                      He got in a little...Couldnt really give you a number of how many snaps he got but, it wasnt many. He was really a non-factor out there but, his assimilation has just begun.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Modano View Post
                        As always, that's just your idea. You don't know why Carpenter or Burnett don't start, maybe it's because for the coaches they're not good enough. I want to see Carpenter succeed like you, but so far he hasn't shown anything, other than that single performance against Seattle. Wade Phillips makes a great job with his LB, a lot of players had their beast season under Phillips. So there's a reason if Carpenter barely see the field.
                        And Bradie James hasn't been bad in coverage this year...

                        Yesterday we didn't give up so many pass yards because of poor coverages by James or the other LB's, it was because the WR's were wide open on the underneath routes all day.
                        I don't know why, but we played vanilla, we sat back and Campbell picked us apart. With the exception of the first drive, our defense wasn't bad until the Redskins had the ball with us leading 28 to 16. That drive really made me mad. We were afraid of getting beat deep, and we allowed the reskins WR's to be open in short and intermediate routes. It was sort of a prevent defense, and it sucked.
                        We need Anthony Henry back, Reeves can't cover the short routes...
                        I would disagree with your assessment of Burnett. Regarding this post and the one you made above, how has he been downright awful in coverage? He makes sure tackles and keeps his man in front of him. Sure, he hasn't gotten any interceptions but he hasn't really been given a fair shot yet. One thing I know for sure is that Burnett hasn't been fully or even partially responsible for a broken coverage that led to a TD or even a big gain. What more can you ask for? yes, he's given up some first downs but to call him awful is a far cry from what is actually going on.

                        Over the last 2 games, Burnett has played as much as Bradie and far more than Akin. In response to your "they would see the field if the coaches thought they were good enough comment" -- Well I think they are starting to show you that Burnett is a better player than Akin and is the best cover linebacker we have.

                        Give him more game experience and the plays will come. I believe we have Burnett locked up for awhile and I expect him to be a big part of this D for a while.

                        If you want to know where the problem is, it's with Jacque reeves and roy williams. Sure we can cover up for roy and stick him at in passing situations which is fine. But we cant cover up for Reeves and Roy, it takes away from our blitzing and that is what you saw against washington. Dware was the only one getting pressure and I dont think we ever brought more than 5. We are having to hold up to protect both of them.

                        Lets hope henry returns soon.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Burns336 View Post
                          I would disagree with your assessment of Burnett. Regarding this post and the one you made above, how has he been downright awful in coverage? He makes sure tackles and keeps his man in front of him. Sure, he hasn't gotten any interceptions but he hasn't really been given a fair shot yet. One thing I know for sure is that Burnett hasn't been fully or even partially responsible for a broken coverage that led to a TD or even a big gain. What more can you ask for? yes, he's given up some first downs but to call him awful is a far cry from what is actually going on.

                          Over the last 2 games, Burnett has played as much as Bradie and far more than Akin. In response to your "they would see the field if the coaches thought they were good enough comment" -- Well I think they are starting to show you that Burnett is a better player than Akin and is the best cover linebacker we have.

                          Give him more game experience and the plays will come. I believe we have Burnett locked up for awhile and I expect him to be a big part of this D for a while.

                          If you want to know where the problem is, it's with Jacque reeves and roy williams. Sure we can cover up for roy and stick him at in passing situations which is fine. But we cant cover up for Reeves and Roy, it takes away from our blitzing and that is what you saw against washington. Dware was the only one getting pressure and I dont think we ever brought more than 5. We are having to hold up to protect both of them.

                          Lets hope henry returns soon.
                          I'm curious what formations Bradie James plays that Akin Ayodele doesn't play. Because you said
                          Burnett has played as much as Bradie and far more than Akin
                          I'm pretty sure that statement isn't true.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                            He got in a little...Couldnt really give you a number of how many snaps he got but, it wasnt many. He was really a non-factor out there but, his assimilation has just begun.
                            Yeah well I hope that as he assimiliates, coach realizes that he needs more snaps and that he should be the starter.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Burns336 View Post
                              I would disagree with your assessment of Burnett. Regarding this post and the one you made above, how has he been downright awful in coverage? He makes sure tackles and keeps his man in front of him. Sure, he hasn't gotten any interceptions but he hasn't really been given a fair shot yet. One thing I know for sure is that Burnett hasn't been fully or even partially responsible for a broken coverage that led to a TD or even a big gain. What more can you ask for? yes, he's given up some first downs but to call him awful is a far cry from what is actually going on.

                              Over the last 2 games, Burnett has played as much as Bradie and far more than Akin. In response to your "they would see the field if the coaches thought they were good enough comment" -- Well I think they are starting to show you that Burnett is a better player than Akin and is the best cover linebacker we have.

                              Give him more game experience and the plays will come. I believe we have Burnett locked up for awhile and I expect him to be a big part of this D for a while.

                              If you want to know where the problem is, it's with Jacque reeves and roy williams. Sure we can cover up for roy and stick him at in passing situations which is fine. But we cant cover up for Reeves and Roy, it takes away from our blitzing and that is what you saw against washington. Dware was the only one getting pressure and I dont think we ever brought more than 5. We are having to hold up to protect both of them.

                              Lets hope henry returns soon.
                              I said he was awful at times, not Modano. Yes, that was being a little harsh...but, Burnett has not been great overall in coverage this year. His zone coverage is nothing to brag about. He may be the best "cover" linebacker we have but, that's not saying much. Some people on here talk about him as though he is brilliant in coverage. That's not the case. He gets beat in the middle of the field all the time. He has given up his fair share of wide open receptions in the middle of the field. Burnett has been solid against the run this season but, he's been getting beat a lot in coverage. I like him but, he seems to get too much praise for his coverage ability on here, when it is something he has not been that great at this season.
                              Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 11-19-2007, 05:31 PM.

                              Thanks BoneKrusher^

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                                Why is it when Austin returns kicks you can say he "looks to break one soon", you could say the same for any return man...I wouldnt say off this game he was much better then Thompson, and you could also say for Thompson that he looks 2 break one soon as well...
                                Because Austin seems faster into the wedge and is a "one cut" type guy. Thompson seems to juke more. But only time will tell as he gets opportunities.

                                Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                                and as far as our pass coverage, im just curious why we didnt attack the qb, campbell has shown he will make mistakes under pressure and it seemed like we were sitting back all game, I thought we were supposed to be doing the exact opposite this year? no new packages, no confusing pre snap movement, stunts or inside blitzes, I just saw a majority of 4 man rushes with Ware playing out of his mind
                                I think WP assumed that A) Campbell could not hurt us, b) teh WR could not hurt us and c) Skins where playing with two backups at RG and RT so we would get pressure regardless.

                                But I was asking the same question as I saw Campbell getting in a groove.

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