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  • Originally posted by Ward View Post


    I took the liberty of setting it for you! Enjoy that until draft day. Also, I realize it needs to be "America's Choice", but keeping the mistake is much funnier since you're the one who has to wear it. People new to the forum might think you're a slack jawed Dallas fan with no punctuation skills. To me, that's funny.
    *Sniper angrily shakes fist at Ward* I will get my revenge one day!

    Good battle, though. I was sure I had it before December.

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    • I think the growth of Anthony Spencer and Mike Jenkins were probably the 2 biggest impacts for your team in the 2nd half of the season.

      I also think that Garrett has done an amazing job this year. I think you guys give him way too much grief. He's a hell of a playcaller and did a great job with this offense, especially the TE sets.

      I would mention Romo but Ive always been a Romo supporter. So its not really news to me that he's played well. I expected him to.

      And give your trainer a raise. He's the best trainer in football. Has been there since the SB years of the 90s if I recall correctly, and the Cowboys are almost always one of the healthiest teams in the league.

      That is one fact that usually goes unnoticed, and its soooo integral to having a good season.

      Quick question. If theres no CBA, you can cut any player without any cap ramifications right? Do you think Roy Williams gets cut if theres no CBA? While he had a good game, I think it would be better for the long term future if you guys let him go. Oggletree seems like he can give you just as much as Roy, and he's cheaper and can still develop further.

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      • Do you honestly think Jerry cuts Roy a year after trading the farm and giving a big deal to him? He is a nice redzone target and I just can't see Jerry outright cutting him. It's not like we have a lot of guys behind him being held back. Hurd/Oggletree don't really have the body of work to make that cut IMO. We'd be right back to drafting a WR in the first round likely. I just don't see it.

        And yes Joe Jurask (sp?) is a great trainer.

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        • Well, we thought the same thing about TO for the most part didn't we? But Jerry knew he had Austin.

          I see flashes in Oggletree. I think if given more snaps, he can make something happen. I like Oggletree. I'll say it. I think he's going to be a player.

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          • I definately think Ogleetree will be special, but I called him to overtake Crayton next year as our #3 slot guy and Roy will still be around as a #2 guy. We'll give him at least 2010 before he gets cut, he's not strapping us just yet for cash but that could be his last season, right now it would be too soon.


            That said Ogleetree could still overtake him at some point, I'm not worried about his body of work because you can tell he's a gifted WR that knows the fundamentals and just needs the chance to perform. He'll be great in the slot for us next year then he can have a fully expanded role in year 3.


            I agree on Spencer and Jenkins, we aren't where we are without those 2 period.


            Also the injury thing you could possibly give credit to Wade also, people ripped him for "camp cupcake" and not tackling early on, but it's kept guys fresh and healthy and has reaped benefits. Whenever we do get a rash of injuries(like last year) people go nuts and lose their mind not realizing we very rarely have any major injuries consistently, which always makes me nervous the very next year thinking we'll be on the other end of the spectrum.





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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            • I think what makes your trainer so great is his stretching regimen. Everytime I see the pregame warmups on TV, i notice the Cowboys stretch better than any other team I see.

              I'm sure the same is done in TC. I think thats huge, bc the more you stretch, the better. Youre not as tight, you won't tear as many ligaments, or pull as many hamstrings, etc. Players are too tight these days and they don't stretch as much as they should.

              Whenever I see the Cowboys stretch, they do some bad ass stretching. Just a theory of mine. I have no concrete proof that they're any better than other teams, but i do notice a difference on tv and at the stadium when im there (when we play the Cowboys).

              They just stretch better. And if a guy is slacking, he walks up to them and gets on their ass for not stretching hard.

              For what its worth, I like your 3rd string TE more than Martellus Bennet. Bennet has been very underwhelming this year. For all his physical ability, he doesn't show it on the field.

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              • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                I think the growth of Anthony Spencer and Mike Jenkins were probably the 2 biggest impacts for your team in the 2nd half of the season.
                No doubt. You guys know all too well (2007) how good a defense can be when you don't have to blitz to get to a QB. Add acouple of good DBs to that and you can be domiate.

                I also think that Garrett has done an amazing job this year. I think you guys give him way too much grief. He's a hell of a playcaller and did a great job with this offense, especially the TE sets.
                I agree. I will admit there was a time mid-season when I had lost almost all faith. However, you can really see his imagination with some of his play design. Brilliant. I remember watching a clip of Trent Dilfer analyzing the dallas offense and he said the passing offense is quite simplistic, but the cowboys running game is one of the most complex in all of football. I think that's beginning to show.


                I would mention Romo but Ive always been a Romo supporter. So its not really news to me that he's played well. I expected him to.
                I agree. I think most people kept forgetting that he was still a young QB, even though he was not necessarily a young player in the league.

                And give your trainer a raise. He's the best trainer in football. Has been there since the SB years of the 90s if I recall correctly, and the Cowboys are almost always one of the healthiest teams in the league.

                That is one fact that usually goes unnoticed, and its soooo integral to having a good season.
                Jurasik is a good one.

                Quick question. If theres no CBA, you can cut any player without any cap ramifications right? Do you think Roy Williams gets cut if theres no CBA? While he had a good game, I think it would be better for the long term future if you guys let him go. Oggletree seems like he can give you just as much as Roy, and he's cheaper and can still develop further.
                The thing is RW has a guaranteed bonus of $9 million this march. So he's due that even if he's cut. I think he keeps him at least one more year. And frankly, if RW can just give us what he gave Saturday, he's worth keeping because he's got a good attitude. I do agree that Ogletree looks like he may have something so I want to see more of this kid for sure!
                In war, you win or lose, live or die - and the difference is just an eyelash.


                -Douglas MacArthur

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                • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                  For what its worth, I like your 3rd string TE more than Martellus Bennet. Bennet has been very underwhelming this year. For all his physical ability, he doesn't show it on the field.
                  As much as I hate to say it because I'm a big fan of Bennett's potential, I think you're right.
                  In war, you win or lose, live or die - and the difference is just an eyelash.


                  -Douglas MacArthur

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                  • Originally posted by Macarthur View Post
                    As much as I hate to say it because I'm a big fan of Bennett's potential, I think you're right.
                    I keep trying to remind myself that Bennett's only 21. The potential is there, I'm hoping he just "gets it". Vernon Davis anyone?!?!! Not comparing the two at all, but it's just not clicking for Bennett yet...and I hope it does before he finds himself out of a job....that's stretching it...out of a Cowboys uniform.

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                    • The thing is. Bennett gets open. He is a good blocker. I'd say as good as witten actually. You never see him getting blown up. And although he is never in one on one situations TE really shouldn't be in those positions anyways. His hands this year I think have lead to Romo losing confidence in him. Once he has had the ball in his hands he has also been dynamic. I think this is just a classic case of not enough balls to go around. He would blossom on a team like Cincy. Kind of a shame we didn't take the 2nd and move on...although I understand the thought process behind it.

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                      • 2 things bother me about Bennet

                        1. he doesn't fight for position the way you'd want him to, he doesn't fight for the ball the way you'd want him to. for such a big guy, he doesn't play badass enough. use your body. put fear in some DBs. truck a guy. do something. be as physical in the pass game as you are in the run game.

                        2. he seems like he's not fully aware of the playbook. he often seems confused and not on the same page as Romo. i know my boy Bossing will get on me for this, but it doesn't look like he runs routes very well.

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                        • Originally posted by FreshBoy! View Post
                          I keep trying to remind myself that Bennett's only 21. The potential is there, I'm hoping he just "gets it". Vernon Davis anyone?!?!! Not comparing the two at all, but it's just not clicking for Bennett yet...and I hope it does before he finds himself out of a job....that's stretching it...out of a Cowboys uniform.
                          Davis is a good name to throw out, look how many people called him a bust prematurely, now he led the entire NFL in TD receptions period out of nowhere. Bennett had success as a rookie mostly due to athletic ability, he's got a much higher ceiling then Phillips and I'll say it again; he still provides of flexibility in formations that Phillips can't so I'll take that. Also it may be a cop out but his run blocking is still great, sorta like people were saying Spencer's great against the run when he wasn't getting sacks, sometimes it takes time.


                          Spencer didn't turn it on until mid season of this year, I'm firmly in Bennett's corner, he'll be a stud eventually, but he's still no Jermichael Finley :(


                          The coaches like Phillips also which is why he's played more, great player, smart, does everything well, student of the game, can't be upset at what he's shown with how much we use 2 TE's.





                          Originally posted by Scott Wright
                          I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                          • Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                            The coaches like Phillips also which is why he's played more, great player, smart, does everything well, student of the game, can't be upset at what he's shown with how much we use 2 TE's.
                            I don't know about anyone else, but I see a lot of Witten in this kid. The way he runs his routes, the way he catches passes, the way he acts after he scores a TD. His mannerisms remind me so much of Witten.

                            He might not have the upside like Bennett, but I would rather have the better overall football player in the game when it's on the line. And that guy, right now, is Phillips.
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                            • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                              2 things bother me about Bennet

                              1. he doesn't fight for position the way you'd want him to, he doesn't fight for the ball the way you'd want him to. for such a big guy, he doesn't play badass enough. use your body. put fear in some DBs. truck a guy. do something. be as physical in the pass game as you are in the run game.

                              2. he seems like he's not fully aware of the playbook. he often seems confused and not on the same page as Romo. i know my boy Bossing will get on me for this, but it doesn't look like he runs routes very well.
                              I all for trading Bennett this offseason, but I have to disagree with the 1st point. I've seen him do exactly the opposite. Kid most definitely fights for the ball. To me, his ONLY issue is getting targeted.

                              Maybe not knowing the playbook is an issue, but I would really have ZERO way of knowing.

                              Bottom line... we don't need him. We should trade him. Even if it's to move up in the draft.

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                              • Originally posted by UTPATS View Post
                                I don't know about anyone else, but I see a lot of Witten in this kid. The way he runs his routes, the way he catches passes, the way he acts after he scores a TD. His mannerisms remind me so much of Witten.

                                He might not have the upside like Bennett, but I would rather have the better overall football player in the game when it's on the line. And that guy, right now, is Phillips.
                                Sometimes I get confused... but only because he's the only other White receiver. ha.

                                He's definitely a keeper.

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