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  • Clarence E. Hill says Dallas has been fielding offers for Hurd again. An "NFL Source" says a bunch of teams are interested. Take it for what it's worth

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    • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
      Clarence E. Hill says Dallas has been fielding offers for Hurd again. An "NFL Source" says a bunch of teams are interested. Take it for what it's worth
      Vikings perhaps?

      Maybe the Chargers? The Rams? I personally don't see why you have such a mancrush on Hurd.

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      • Good physique, good hands, HARD worker, does alittle bit of everything. But he just doesn't have the talent or explosiveness that some of the guys in front of him do.

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        • Wonder if Hurd would bring back some interior OL depth in a trade?
          In war, you win or lose, live or die - and the difference is just an eyelash.


          -Douglas MacArthur

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          • Originally posted by Macarthur View Post
            I'm still hoping because he's a freak athlete and still very young.
            Anybody who has formed too much of a concrete opinion on him at this point is usually the bandwagon fans(or DMN blog posters). Everyone hated the pick after it happened and hated Jerry, hated it more after Hard Knocks, then were back on his nuts after his season and talking about how he was so elite, Jerry was so smart, etc etc. Then after his sophmore year and stuff on youtube it was back to point A again.


            You gotta be patient with guys like him, he could end up like Stanback, potential who never turns into anything, or he could be a monster. But at this point he's still developing. I know he has the talent, it is just going to take some dedication on his part, maybe Phillips emerging is what he needed I'm not sure. But 21 year old guys with tremendous potential you have to give time and I need to see at least 3 seasons(similiar to a WR) before I can form an opinion.


            I'm always gonna remember Finley going after him because I was a Finley homer forever, but it's VERY typical of most Cowboy fans to constantly bring up how he went after Bennett because if anyone in the NFL knew Finley would turn into the monster he was, he would have been drafted exactly where Gresham was drafted this year.


            It's not like we just made a mistake, I could probably find 1 pick each team took before Finley went and say it was stupid, but we have alot of fans that love to do that. As soon as a pick doesn't pan out, people get to Jerry bashing once again, and then look all the good picks that went after said player and start calling Jerry an idiot all over again.


            That kinda stuff will just always happen with us.





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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            • I never have nor probably ever will think that we "missed out" on Finley. We have a #1 TE. Finley would probably be in the same boat that Marty B is here... if we drafted him instead. Finley looks good because the opportunity for him is big there. GB hasn't had a TE worth beans in years. If Marty had the same kind of opportunity, I have no doubts that he'd have a better reputation than he has now. MB has legit skillz. He's just on a team with so many other weapons.

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              • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                Vikings perhaps?

                Maybe the Chargers? The Rams? I personally don't see why you have such a mancrush on Hurd.
                I'm not even close to liking Hurd the way that MOTH does lol, but he does flash some ability time to time and I think he is good enough to be an average starter for some teams. Thing is, teams are so in love with the "potential" word and Hurd probably doesn't strike anyone as 1 of those guys who could blossom into something special.


                I think even a few years back people saw that from Austin, judging by the Jets courting him before he broke out, but I don't know that Hurd has alot of upside for a 25 year older but he's much better then his stats or track record have shown. He could be a Patrick Crayton type of player for someone, it's not like Crayton is as good as some of his numbers have led anyone to believe, Hurd just needs an opportunity.


                He's just more valuable to us then a 6th or 7th rd pick probably, and I don't know teams who would want to do much more then that. He's a hell of a blocker, excellent ST's player, and nice depth to have. I don't think I'd want to trade him unless we got a higher pick, or as Macarthur said some valuable interior O-line depth.





                Originally posted by Scott Wright
                I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                  I never have nor probably ever will think that we "missed out" on Finley. We have a #1 TE. Finley would probably be in the same boat that Marty B is here... if we drafted him instead. Finley looks good because the opportunity for him is big there. GB hasn't had a TE worth beans in years. If Marty had the same kind of opportunity, I have no doubts that he'd have a better reputation than he has now. MB has legit skillz. He's just on a team with so many other weapons.
                  That's very true.


                  Also Finley was ass as a blocker until this year thus far since he's gained some weight, tries alot more, but still isn't as good of a blocker as Marty B and it's not even close really. That aspect might be overlooked, similiar to how people always said "Well Spears is good against the run", but as you said since we have our #1 TE longterm getting a 2nd TE who could block his ass off was valuable.


                  Finley did virtually no blocking as a rookie, very little in year 2. He played alot of the slot, split out wide type of formations. Marty B is still a better fit for what we want to do here, and considering the #2 TE is only going to get so many receiving opportunities here that's more then likely why we passed on him.





                  Originally posted by Scott Wright
                  I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                  • I did question the selection of Bennett in the first place though. Sure, I tried to look at the good side about the selection after it was made, but that draft went unlike what I wanted. I posted it many times before, but I didn't want Felix. I didn't want Bennett. I was pissed when we passed on Mike Jenkins.

                    I wanted Jenkins instead of Felix with that first pick. Then I wanted Devin Thomas with the 2nd pick we used on Jenkins. Then I wanted Jamaal Charles with the pick we used on Bennett.

                    If I got to redo it today, I'd say we missed out on Desean Jackson for sure.

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                    • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                      If I got to redo it today, I'd say we missed out on Desean Jackson for sure.
                      I'd tap the brakes a bit on that. He's dynamic, but I'm still not convinced that he's not going to be an ongoing injury concern for Philly.

                      He's a shrimp and has already had a tendency to get nicked.
                      In war, you win or lose, live or die - and the difference is just an eyelash.


                      -Douglas MacArthur

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                      • Dont get me wrong...I dont think Sam Hurd is some super star or anything. I just think he's been getting the short end of the stick here. If he started in place of Williams this year...I actually do believe he'd be more productive than Roy. That's more a knock on Roy. But Sam is a good player and has a sound skill set, which would make him a capable starter.

                        Preseason is preseason is preseason...but once again, the guy is performing out there. He just never gets his shot...and the injuries the last few years havent helped...as Wade brought up a couple of days ago.

                        Sucks that Ogletree gets a free pass, despite inconsistent play and questionable work ethic and attitude...but Hurd may get shafted.

                        I hope the Rams trade for him. haha.

                        Without even thinking twice...

                        I'd rank our guys...

                        1. Austin
                        2. Bryant
                        3. Hurd
                        4. Williams
                        5. Crayton
                        6. Oggletree

                        I do see something in Hurd...not a super star, but a good player.

                        As for Ogletree he could be a player...but right now, he's playing terrible and aggravating coaches. He's not better than Crayton just yet. Guy needs to hit up that JUGS machine.
                        Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 08-24-2010, 04:47 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                          Dont get me wrong...I dont think Sam Hurd is some super star or anything. I just think he's been getting the short end of the stick here. If he started in place of Williams this year...I actually do believe he'd be more productive than Roy. That's more a knock on Roy. But Sam is a good player and has a sound skill set, which would make him a capable starter.

                          Preseason is preseason is preseason...but once again, the guy is performing out there. He just never gets his shot...and the injuries the last few years havent helped...as Wade brought up a couple of days ago.

                          Sucks that Ogletree gets a free pass, despite inconsistent play and questionable work ethic and attitude...but Hurd may get shafted.

                          I hope the Rams trade for him. haha.

                          Without even thinking twice...

                          I'd rank our guys...

                          1. Austin
                          2. Bryant
                          3. Hurd
                          4. Williams
                          5. Crayton
                          6. Oggletree

                          I do see something in Hurd...not a super star, but a good player.

                          As for Ogletree he could be a player...but right now, he's playing terrible and aggravating coaches. He's not better than Crayton just yet. Guy needs to hit up that JUGS machine.
                          I'd rank it like this:

                          1. Bryant
                          2. Austin
                          3. Williams
                          4. Hurd
                          5. Oggletree
                          6. Crayton

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                          • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                            I'd rank it like this:

                            1. Bryant
                            2. Austin
                            3. Williams
                            4. Hurd
                            5. Oggletree
                            6. Crayton
                            Couldn't argue much...I just think Williams is some major jag.




                            Latest on the Hurd thing...
                            Sam Hurd's name has been popping up on trade block chatter. According to Clarence Hill, an NFL source said Hurd is indeed being shopped.
                            The Cowboys have denied they are actively pursuing a trade for Hurd, admitting only that "teams have called about him" but they "are not ready to do anything yet." Yet is the operative word.
                            Star-Telegram
                            I honestly think we want to keep him...but there is a market out there for him. Maybe someone will force Dallas' hand a bit.


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                            • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                              I'd rank it like this:

                              1. Bryant
                              2. Austin
                              3. Williams
                              4. Hurd
                              5. Oggletree
                              6. Crayton
                              Bryant above Austin?

                              ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                              Amazing.

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                              • Originally posted by herniateddisc View Post
                                Bryant above Austin?

                                ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                Amazing.
                                Yeah it's pretty funny now...but I wouldnt kill anyone for saying so. If you're basing it off of pure talent, at least. From a talent stand point...Dez is easily the most talented, imo. But seeing how he's never seen the field...I wouldnt put him ahead of Austin yet. haha.

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