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  • Originally posted by Go Cowboys View Post
    Well sorry I don't have the same opinion as you as that is obviously grounds to say I have no idea what I'm talking about.

    Look at the Ravens, the Eagles under Jim Johnson, Jets, and some of the other top defenses... Do they sit and catch plays or do they attack? As it has always been Defense wins you championships, the offense gets you there but the defense decides whether your going to be good. The best way to stop a high powered offense is to get to them before they get to you. We wait and let them do THEIR gameplan, look at the teams we play, they don't let us get comfortable we again are playing to THEIR gameplan.


    Show me how it is not vanilla and then I will leave it alone but all you have done is imply that I am wrong without any basis. Please show me how it is not vanilla and I will eat my words.... But until then I am going to continue to say that until you make the other team play to OUR gameplan then you can't say that we are going to be able to put anyone in there and get better results.
    I definitely don't have an issue with differing opinions. If you want to disagree then that's good. ...and that's all it is.

    I don't have any issue in what you're saying about being an attacking defense. I have an issue with you saying that Wade's scheme is a vanilla scheme. Is that what you're saying? What exactly do you mean by calling it vanilla? That they don't blitz enough? Or is it something else? That word is too indescriptive for me. Are you calling Wade's gameplan & play calling too conservative or are you calling the scheme itself in design inadequate?

    I'll go from there.

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    • Originally posted by CDCB14 View Post
      This is a valid point, and this is why Wade's defense has it's flaws.
      Which parts of the Phillips 1-gap, 3-4 attacking scheme has flaws that you can identify?

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      • Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
        Your still confusing me as to how throwing out guys who could very easily be worse, into the starting line-up would be best. Who knows if they will make us better, but what the hell, as long as we are playing young guys that's all that matters.


        D, I get your point, but it's waaaay too early to be acting like this. We can win 4 games in a row and possibly be looking at a bye week, it's pointless to start throwing out young guys who haven't even earned a starting spot yet.


        I don't even think some of you guys have watched much of Jason Williams. He looked lost in pre-season, reports were he was lost in Training Camp, it's alot more to playing MLB then athleticism.


        Brooking doesn't suck, but he doesn't need to be playing on passing downs, he's gonna be better then Jason Williams on base downs because JW can't diagnose plays as well, call out audibles, the Mike has to be the QB of the entire defense and by all accounts JW isn't ready for that. Being fast as hell doesn't change that. We tried to give JW and Lee a chance to win the Nickle LB job and nobody ran away with it, Lee was hurt and JW was getting burned by back-ups in pre-season.


        It be different if everytime we saw AOA, or JW, they were lighting it up. But you guys want to start tossing out guys and just "hope" they are good enough to start after 5 games into the season. What if they end up being worse? Oh well, we blew the season trying to find out but at least they got meaningful reps right? Makes no sense.
        Let me end the confusion. You put them out there to see what they can do facing live bullets. If all they do is struggle, then you have the option of taking them out of the game again. If they struggle here and there, but they are also making things happen here or there, then you let them work through it some. If they aren't struggling out there and are in fact playing better than you expected, then you can know with confidence that you can trust them and can play them. You don't have to take out our vets completely, but at least you know you can have a solid rotation and can identify which situations are best to play them according to their strengths and weaknesses.

        If you don't give them a chance to prove themselves in live game action and you make your judgements based off practices, then you're basically holding onto unknowns. Sometimes you hold on to those unknowns so long, that it becomes a detriment to your team. Pat McQuistan was with our team for years and never provided a bit of impact. He was one of those "unknowns" and we basically wasted a roster spot holding onto him. GC mentioned that he's playing well for Miami (a winning team). That only tells me that we made a mistake not playing him earlier and finding out like Miami is finding out now, that he is a good starting caliber player. These are mistakes that are avoidable if you let the "unknowns" PLAY!

        Like I said earlier... too many of you are too untrusting. You have the set mentality that because either these guys come from small schools or were mid to late round picks that they automatically can't be trusted. One mistake and you want to yank them off the field, crucify them and stamp your brain with a memory that these guys aren't ready and it will take a long time for you to get over it. Which really surprises me considering how much success we've had with small school guys and late round picks/UDFAs. Ware and Ratliff played from the start... a small school and late round pick. Remember when we played Scandrick his rookie year and everyone was excited about his future because he was making good things happen on the field? Same with Victor Butler... Choice... Barber... mid round picks.

        Lee is a damn 2nd rounder, and JW is a high 3rd! These are guys we are tabbing as our starting ILBs for the next decade...Let these guys get some action! Let these guys play through some of the mistakes that they will make. Not make such herky jerky decisions. ...and don't say, "Oh he can't play nickel because he's too slow or doesn't have the skillset," before you even give him a chance on the field because of what you judged in practice or preseason. Or should I say, what the coaches judged in practice and what you judged in the preason.

        You trust the coaches making the right decisions about player development, but you want the coaches to be fired? Not pointing to you LL, just saying in general, that's what I seem to be hearing.

        As for AOA, maybe he is terribly raw and the coaches are right. But I already acknowledged that the point CG brought up about Ball working through his mistakes might be the best for the team and is basically the idea I've been preaching. That I just need to let Ball work through it. I'm willing to do that for a few more games.

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        • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
          Which parts of the Phillips 1-gap, 3-4 attacking scheme has flaws that you can identify?
          When the QB has time we get BURNT, and we don't force turnovers, at all...

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          • Originally posted by CDCB14 View Post
            When the QB has time we get BURNT, and we don't force turnovers, at all...
            And you think there is only 1 single reason for that, and that it's the scheme?

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
              And you think there is only 1 single reason for that, and that it's the scheme?
              Why don't we ever see brooking or james pull a stunt then pick off a crossing route? Why don't we ever have a robber safety and get a pick?

              Sh*t dude, Brett Favre didn't even throw a pick on us. It's terrible.

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              • Originally posted by CDCB14 View Post
                Why don't we ever see brooking or james pull a stunt then pick off a crossing route? Why don't we ever have a robber safety and get a pick?

                Sh*t dude, Brett Favre didn't even throw a pick on us. It's terrible.
                In all of his 8 seasons Bradie James has 1 career INT. Keith Brooking hasn't had a single INT in the last 5 years. Do I have to spell out the math?

                Look at how crappy our safeties are...

                As you can tell by the way I've been calling for some of our younger guys to play... I'm not blaming the scheme as much as I am blaming the personnel.

                We have an ILB who can run a 4.46 40 who has a vert of 36 inches and he barely sees the field in favor of a slow old vet. Don't tell me it's the scheme.

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                • I agree on Williams.

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                  • I don't know if anyone is watching NFL Network right now, but they just showed how steven bowen TOSSED steve huchinson on a piece ont he vikings o-line.

                    He needs to play more.

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                    • http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.1569d18.html

                      Read the last part...

                      Jason Williams really must be awful in practice.

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                      • Just read an article on Dallascowboys.com talking about how Felix lost some weight and is back down to his playing weight from a few years ago and he notices a difference. Hmmm, wonder why he thought that was necessary lol.


                        I remember not even a few days ago I said the exact same thing, "bet any money we hear about him dropping the weight to go back to what he was playing at last year". Not surprising at all.





                        Originally posted by Scott Wright
                        I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                        • LL, what are you thoughts on the game monday night.

                          Eli being 19-4 in october scares me. I hate stats like that.

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                          • Anyone ever think of trading for bob sanders? I'd give up a 4th.

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                            • Originally posted by CDCB14 View Post
                              http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.1569d18.html

                              Read the last part...

                              Jason Williams really must be awful in practice.
                              The sooner we find out, the sooner we can start scouting ILB prospects again. Rather do that than hold onto him for 4 years and figure out we never found a future replacement for Brooking.

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                              • Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                                Just read an article on Dallascowboys.com talking about how Felix lost some weight and is back down to his playing weight from a few years ago and he notices a difference. Hmmm, wonder why he thought that was necessary lol.


                                I remember not even a few days ago I said the exact same thing, "bet any money we hear about him dropping the weight to go back to what he was playing at last year". Not surprising at all.
                                That's what I meant by getting him "fixed" too. We need the old Felix back... Not the one trying to be the next Julius Jones... picking up bad weight because he's getting ready to be a starter.

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