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  • I think at 1-5, it's time to challenge conventional media wisdom about who is and who isn't a good player on this team. (I know this happens on this forum all the time)

    RB: I know the interior o-line is among the worst in football, and that is hurting the running game, but Barber is not what he was and Jones has been a big disappointment when it comes to making plays in the open field. Where the F is Choice? This group was supposed to be among the best in football and has done very little.

    TE: Witten is still a fine tight end, but he runs around like he's got high heels on. Bennett is a block in the back penalty waiting to happen (though it was great to see them miss a clear block in the back penalty on the Manningham score tonight) We miss Phillips.

    WR: I know it was one play, but Gruden made a good point on the 4th and goal play, that we were getting one on one coverage and not one WR made any play to get open. I like our WRs, but do we have guys who can consistantly make plays in the red zone (like the Giants clearly have)?

    Front 7: No pressure on Manning. Other than Ware, do we have anyone who can consistantly get pressure? Spencer seems to be reverting back to his pre-2nd half of 2009 days.

    Secondary: I like the Newman/Jenkins combo despite the rough few games Jenkins had, but is Scandrick anywhere close to the answer as a 3rd guy? Is Ball a long term solution at safety?

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    • Originally posted by dsc1600 View Post
      I think at 1-5, it's time to challenge conventional media wisdom about who is and who isn't a good player on this team. (I know this happens on this forum all the time)

      RB: I know the interior o-line is among the worst in football, and that is hurting the running game, but Barber is not what he was and Jones has been a big disappointment when it comes to making plays in the open field. Where the F is Choice? This group was supposed to be among the best in football and has done very little.

      TE: Witten is still a fine tight end, but he runs around like he's got high heels on. Bennett is a block in the back penalty waiting to happen (though it was great to see them miss a clear block in the back penalty on the Manningham score tonight) We miss Phillips.

      WR: I know it was one play, but Gruden made a good point on the 4th and goal play, that we were getting one on one coverage and not one WR made any play to get open. I like our WRs, but do we have guys who can consistantly make plays in the red zone (like the Giants clearly have)?

      Front 7: No pressure on Manning. Other than Ware, do we have anyone who can consistantly get pressure? Spencer seems to be reverting back to his pre-2nd half of 2009 days.

      Secondary: I like the Newman/Jenkins combo despite the rough few games Jenkins had, but is Scandrick anywhere close to the answer as a 3rd guy? Is Ball a long term solution at safety?
      While you make some valid points everywhere else, Dez and Miles are dominant WRs, with Roy playing well too. If we fix the o-line to give romo time, this is the best trio in the league.

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      • Our season was over the moment Romo came out.


        In Bob We Trust

        John Madden's wedding video business

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ddPHJWkPvU

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        • Okay, i was talking about this in the NFL forum, but i wanna hear some responses from guys that have watched either of these guys extensively, or at least enough to make a sound judgment.

          Who would be the better fit for our defense, and who would your rather have, Patrick Peterson or Prince Amukamara? I'm bringing these guys up because they're clearly the top prospects at a position we're obviously in dire need of help in. The offensive line is complete horse **** but there's no talent at the top of the draft that would justify us taking someone that early. So, thoughts?

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          • Originally posted by MetSox17 View Post
            Okay, i was talking about this in the NFL forum, but i wanna hear some responses from guys that have watched either of these guys extensively, or at least enough to make a sound judgment.

            Who would be the better fit for our defense, and who would your rather have, Patrick Peterson or Prince Amukamara? I'm bringing these guys up because they're clearly the top prospects at a position we're obviously in dire need of help in. The offensive line is complete horse **** but there's no talent at the top of the draft that would justify us taking someone that early. So, thoughts?
            Peterson and it ain't even close for me.

            But Scott said something that's really got me thinking... He says some scouts think Peterson's best position in the NFL might be at Safety. The CB class is deep. IF we draft Peterson as a safety and nab a CB later... Booya!

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
              Peterson and it ain't even close for me.

              But Scott said something that's really got me thinking... He says some scouts think Peterson's best position in the NFL might be at Safety. The CB class is deep. IF we draft Peterson as a safety and nab a CB later... Booya!
              I hate that i have seen little to nothing on Peterson. I never catch any LSU games. Amukamara played lights out last year versus Texas, and seems like the kind of guy we could use, he reminds me of a young Antoine Winfield.

              I think this becomes a classic debate between the guy with the high floor and the guy with the high ceiling. Peterson has the playmaking ability we so desperately lack, but Amukamara seems like a guy you could just plug in from day one and he'll be good for the next eight years.

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              • Sorry the game went down the way it did. I like you guys as a group. I think you are all good insightful posters. Hope Romo can come back! It's always a terrible thing when a starting qb gets hurt.

                On a side note, I am happy that Bradshaw got 124 yards. So that's what I was hoping for all game, and a win of course. But getting O'hara back is probably the best thing that's happened to us. No more Koets in there. This was O'hara's second game back. I thought he would struggle against the 1 T. Very hard to face Suh one week and than Jay R. the other.

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                • Chros Gronkowski needs to be taken out behind a shed and beat silly.
                  Where the **** did that guy think he was going?

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                  • Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
                    Chros Gronkowski needs to be taken out behind a shed and beat silly.
                    Where the **** did that guy think he was going?
                    Reminded me of Varsity Blue where Billy Bob misses a block, and Paul Walker's character gets hurt.

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                    • Guys, I hate to break it to you, but you know with our luck, Kitna is gonna ball out and get us to about 6-10 lol, and were not getting peterson.

                      This team has to mucn talent to go 2-14. Not gonna lie, right now I hope we do.

                      New coaches and peterson.. I wouldn't even need porn next summer!!!

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                      • I was at the game and it was so bad.

                        I don't even know where to start. That is probably the worst defensive effort I've ever seen, especially given the circumstances of Romo going down, having the lead and needing the defense to step up and control this game.

                        No heart. I've never seen Ware so invisible.
                        In war, you win or lose, live or die - and the difference is just an eyelash.


                        -Douglas MacArthur

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                        • Originally posted by Macarthur View Post
                          I was at the game and it was so bad.

                          I don't even know where to start. That is probably the worst defensive effort I've ever seen, especially given the circumstances of Romo going down, having the lead and needing the defense to step up and control this game.

                          No heart. I've never seen Ware so invisible.
                          Your veteran leadership stinks. I don't see anyone firing the team up. They all kept showing on tv, shots of the defense just staring up into the sky.

                          Coughlin mentioned in his presser that when we were down 20-7 guys were still motivating each other. I honestly think that's the difference. You guys need someone to kick people around. Your HC won't do that. And it appears that no one on your team will either.

                          Who is that guy that is going to chew people out? Where is that guy pumping up the players?

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                          • Igor Olshanksky celebrating after every play he made, even though his defense was giving up 500 yards is a prime example of what is wrong with the Cowboys right now.

                            Really Igor? You made a stop vs the run and now you're pumping your fists?


                            And the worst part, I was waiting for Phillips to kill him when he got to the sideline, to remind him how idiotic that was.

                            Wade doesn't do a thing. Doesn't even look at him.

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                            • Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
                              Your veteran leadership stinks. I don't see anyone firing the team up. They all kept showing on tv, shots of the defense just staring up into the sky.

                              Coughlin mentioned in his presser that when we were down 20-7 guys were still motivating each other. I honestly think that's the difference. You guys need someone to kick people around. Your HC won't do that. And it appears that no one on your team will either.

                              Who is that guy that is going to chew people out? Where is that guy pumping up the players?
                              Coaching aside, I've always considered the MLB to be THAT guy. Guys like Mike Singletary, Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Zach Thomas (in MIA)... their energy exuded over to the rest of the team. Their leadership never failed even when their QB was bad or got injured. Lewis had to put up with years of Kyle Boller and other crappy QBs, but he NEVER let his defense let up.

                              Bradie James is not and has never been that kind of influence. Brooking tries, he's really a fireball. See his INT last night? He never gave up, but the team does not respond to him the same way. The last person who we had that was that way was Ken Norton Jr. ....and we won SBs with him. I think Sean Lee is pretty intense, focused and vocal on the field, but he's still too young. He doesn't have the credibility here that he did at Penn St. So, it's time to start getting him in games more often as he is the future at the position... and could be THAT guy who we finally can lean on in the future to lead the defense.

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                              • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                                Igor Olshanksky celebrating after every play he made, even though his defense was giving up 500 yards is a prime example of what is wrong with the Cowboys right now.

                                Really Igor? You made a stop vs the run and now you're pumping your fists?


                                And the worst part, I was waiting for Phillips to kill him when he got to the sideline, to remind him how idiotic that was.

                                Wade doesn't do a thing. Doesn't even look at him.
                                Igor and Spears. They both do it. Really irritates me.

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