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  • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
    We don't need more picks. We traded down for more picks in 2009 and that was our worst draft in recent memory.

    I fully expect Jerry to bring in some OL help in FA or Trade.

    We need playmakers with that first pick. Patrick Peterson, Nick Fairley, Adrian Clayborn... Dareus, I'm not sold on.
    Well see, you have a different way of drafting. It doesn't help that your damn owner is the GM too! LOL. I mean come on!

    Well if you do get playmakers, then you BETTER get OL help, something that many have been citing as a weakness for a while now. Need to give Romo help! It's funny because you guys have playmakers, but it comes down to leadership, coaching, and discipline. It's not like you guys are lacking talent. Your HC stinks, and your GM is meddling with every aspect of the franchise.

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    • Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
      Well see, you have a different way of drafting. It doesn't help that your damn owner is the GM too! LOL. I mean come on!

      Well if you do get playmakers, then you BETTER get OL help, something that many have been citing as a weakness for a while now. Need to give Romo help! It's funny because you guys have playmakers, but it comes down to leadership, coaching, and discipline. It's not like you guys are lacking talent. Your HC stinks, and your GM is meddling with every aspect of the franchise.
      LOL. You know what's funny about you critics? You guys were citing our OL as a weakness because of Doug Free last year. Now he's our best lineman. But hey... we tried to tell you. We know OL is a problem area. Doesn't mean you have to spend a 1st rounder on one. I'm happy with Jerry's philosophy on addressing the OL. Spend the bucks or make trades for guys that are proven talents. Draft outside of Round 1 for development. We're very fortunate that this year's FA class of OL looks VERY deep.

      As for playmakers, we have them on the offensive side and we have a few on defense. But our secondary could really need a boost at CB and especially S.

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      • Same here D. I didn't mind criticism of the O-line but it would have had to of been with everyone else, not Doug Free.


        Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't try and find 2 new starters on the line in FA, and take another guy with our 2nd rd pick.


        But we need a safety, O-line, and a CB early. ILB may possibly be up there as well. I'm not putting DE as high as everyone else because Bowen can get re-signed for cheap and then we just need depth. Those are the only positions I'm concerned about.





        Originally posted by Scott Wright
        I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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        • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
          LOL. You know what's funny about you critics? You guys were citing our OL as a weakness because of Doug Free last year. Now he's our best lineman. But hey... we tried to tell you. We know OL is a problem area. Doesn't mean you have to spend a 1st rounder on one. I'm happy with Jerry's philosophy on addressing the OL. Spend the bucks or make trades for guys that are proven talents. Draft outside of Round 1 for development. We're very fortunate that this year's FA class of OL looks VERY deep.

          As for playmakers, we have them on the offensive side and we have a few on defense. But our secondary could really need a boost at CB and especially S.
          Yeah safety is a big option. I can't believe that safety just ran past Manningham. What horrible effort on that play! I would address safety as a spot. What OL free agents are available?

          I am not a fan of that method for the OL. I prefer the draft them ourselves and use the money to fill other needs. Or sign them as undrafted free agents, or something and give them a chance. We need a OT, and I'd rather draft one than sign one personally.

          But that safety of yours made a horrible effort to try to tackle Manningham. The DL who still pursued was impressive though. That's the type of plays that coaches love to see. The effort and motor of a player is really important.

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          • Originally posted by Morton View Post
            Why are Dallas fans talking about getting Patrick Peterson? Don't you guys realize that you have, potentially, quarterback needs, and most definitely offensive line needs?

            Picking Patrick Peterson with a top 10 pick next year and neglecting the offensive line yet again would lead to more losing seasons for the Cowboys.
            Well since your so smart, please tell us what Offensive lineman makes sense to you in the top 10? I'd love to hear it, seeing as how it'd be a RT, Guard or Center. So list them please.


            Peterson is not a luxury, CB is one of the most important positions on a team period, and one of the few positions you can use a top 10 pick on, RT, Guard or Center is NOT a top 10 worth pick. Especially since Scandrick needs to be playing for the UFL.


            But if your going to criticize, you need to know what your talking about. So let's hear some names of offensive lineman you would take for instance, at the 6th pick?





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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            • QB, WR, OT, DT, DE/OLB, CB and S are the only positions I would spent a 1st round pick on because they are top dollar positions.

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              • Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
                Yeah safety is a big option. I can't believe that safety just ran past Manningham. What horrible effort on that play! I would address safety as a spot. What OL free agents are available?

                I am not a fan of that method for the OL. I prefer the draft them ourselves and use the money to fill other needs. Or sign them as undrafted free agents, or something and give them a chance. We need a OT, and I'd rather draft one than sign one personally.

                But that safety of yours made a horrible effort to try to tackle Manningham. The DL who still pursued was impressive though. That's the type of plays that coaches love to see. The effort and motor of a player is really important.
                This is a list of OL that I found. Some may be tagged/resigned and what not but it's a start and quite a long list.

                Jared Gaither, BAL
                Matt Light, NE
                Donald Penn, TB
                Jermon Bushrod, NO
                Willie Colon, PIT
                Carl Nicks, NO
                Logan Mankins, NE
                Ryan Kalil, CAR
                Daryn Colledge, GB
                Evan Mathis, CIN
                Alan Faneca, ARI
                Tyson Clabo, ATL
                Doug Free, DAL
                Ryan Harris, DEN
                Jon Jansen, DET
                Charlie Johnson, IND
                Tony Ugoh, IND
                Ryan O'Callaghan, KC
                Mario Henderson, OAK
                Khalif Barnes, OAK
                Jeromey Clary, SD
                Ray Willis, SEA
                Jeremy Trueblood, TB
                Stephon Heyer, WAS
                Reggie Wells, ARI
                Deuce Lutui, ARI
                Lyle Sendlein, ARI
                Quinn Ojinnaka, ATL
                Justin Blalock, ATL
                Harvey Dahl, ATL
                Marshal Yanda, BAL
                Chris Chester, BAL
                Josh Beekman, CHI
                Olin Kreutz, CHI
                Nate Livings, CIN
                Kyle Cook, CIN
                Kyle Kosier, DAL
                Manuel Ramirez, DET
                Jason Spitz, GB
                Uche Nwaneri, JAC
                Casey Wiegmann, KC
                Rudy Niswanger, KC
                Richie Incognito, MIA
                Jonathan Goodwin, NO
                Chris Morris, OAK
                Samson Satele, OAK
                Max Jean-Gilles, PHI
                Nick Cole, PHI
                David Baas, SF
                Chris Spencer, SEA
                John Greco, STL
                Mark Setterstrom, STL
                Davin Joseph, TB
                Leroy Harris, TEN
                Last edited by D-Unit; 10-28-2010, 03:57 PM.

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                • Wow D, that kid is legit. I'm all for him. We need a playmaker.

                  As for OL in free agency... I don't want to bring in more guys close to or over 30... We need a future.

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                  • Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                    Peterson is not a luxury, CB is one of the most important positions on a team period, and one of the few positions you can use a top 10 pick on, RT, Guard or Center is NOT a top 10 worth pick. Especially since Scandrick needs to be playing for the UFL.
                    You have Mike Jenkins and Terrence Newman, both of which were recently elected to attend the Pro Bowl.

                    Cowboys fans clamoring for Patrick Peterson sound like a rich guy who owns both a Ferrari and a Porsche and yet is talking about buying a brand new Audi A8.

                    But if your going to criticize, you need to know what your talking about. So let's hear some names of offensive lineman you would take for instance, at the 6th pick?
                    I think Gabe Carimi of Wisconsin could be a solid LT/RT for a decade or more. He could give Dallas a great RT to pair opposite Doug Free.

                    I also like Joseph Barksdale of LSU who projects as a quality RT in the NFL.

                    Obviously Doug Free is the LT of the future for the Cowboys and he seems like a solid one at that. But RT obviously is a big area of need, along with OG, which could be shored up in later rounds.

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                    • Originally posted by CDCB14 View Post
                      Wow D, that kid is legit. I'm all for him. We need a playmaker.

                      As for OL in free agency... I don't want to bring in more guys close to or over 30... We need a future.
                      Everyone is all about future. So those guys will be costly. If we can get a guy who is a little more long in the tooth at a lesser cost, but could give us 3 strong years while we develop guys who we've drafted in the mid rounds, then that's perfectly fine with me. We did that with Free and it worked like a charm. We just held onto Flo one year longer than we needed to.

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                      • Originally posted by Morton View Post
                        You have Mike Jenkins and Terrence Newman, both of which were recently elected to attend the Pro Bowl.

                        Cowboys fans clamoring for Patrick Peterson sound like a rich guy who owns both a Ferrari and a Porsche and yet is talking about buying a brand new Audi A8.



                        I think Gabe Carimi of Wisconsin could be a solid LT/RT for a decade or more. He could give Dallas a great RT to pair opposite Doug Free.

                        I also like Joseph Barksdale of LSU who projects as a quality RT in the NFL.

                        Obviously Doug Free is the LT of the future for the Cowboys and he seems like a solid one at that. But RT obviously is a big area of need, along with OG, which could be shored up in later rounds.
                        Newman is getting old. Pro Bowls isn't the correct measure to use. Far from it. I don't know how to tell you how bad that logic is nicely, but it's ridiculous.

                        Carimi and Barksdale won't be Top 15 picks. Might not even be 1st round picks.

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                        • So D, what is your off-season plan, free agency, draft, and coaching, if you were running the cowboys. Let's say we have the 8th pick. I'm curious to what you would do.

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                          • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                            Newman is getting old. Pro Bowls isn't the correct measure to use. Far from it. I don't know how to tell you how bad that logic is nicely, but it's ridiculous.

                            Carimi and Barksdale won't be Top 15 picks. Might not even be 1st round picks.
                            So you think the Cowboys will be best served if Jerry spends his top-10 pick on a shiny new toy like Patrick Peterson or Nick Fairley and neglects a position of need like offensive line?

                            Good luck with that. I guess this will actually be best for the rest of the NFC East if Jerry keeps drafting this way, because it will continue to weaken Dallas in the trenches on the offensive side of the ball.

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                            • Are you a fool? So would you take 2nd round talent with a top 10 pick instead of patrick peterson becuase you need an o-lineman?

                              No you idiot, you take peterson, then take that guy or the best available o-lineman in the top of the 2nd round...

                              THERE ARE NO OFFENSIVE LINEMAN IN THIS DRAFT WORTH A TOP TEN PICK.

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                              • Originally posted by Morton View Post
                                So you think the Cowboys will be best served if Jerry spends his top-10 pick on a shiny new toy like Patrick Peterson or Nick Fairley and neglects a position of need like offensive line?

                                Good luck with that. I guess this will actually be best for the rest of the NFC East if Jerry keeps drafting this way, because it will continue to weaken Dallas in the trenches on the offensive side of the ball.
                                You do realize that there are other ways to address the offensive line than using your 1st rounder on one..... right??????

                                That's really an honest question. Because you act like if the Cowboys don't spend their first rounder reaching on an OL in the Top 10, then all is lost.

                                Wake up bro. There's 6 other rounds of drafting, plus Free Agency and Trade options.

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