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  • Originally posted by yanksknicks View Post
    Message sent boys.
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    Dumb players need not apply at Valley Ranch.
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    Message received.
    That's a good thing. I love this team getting players who are more cerebral.

    But maybe we should've brought in some guys who could make the transition a little easier. Olin Kruetz would've been perfect. He went cheap.

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    • Originally posted by NY+Giants=NYG View Post
      You guys have a lot of toys on offense, but without an OL you guys may struggle. You guys have so many good weapons, but you guys need to get that whole line to gel.

      Plus, our division can get to the QB, so that is a concern for us and other OLs in the division like the Eagles line and Redskins.
      I'm with you. Trust me. I'm not looking at this through rose colored glasses like some of our other fans here.

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      • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
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        You keep saying that but in your above post you said the run blocking is much better than last year and they are giving Tony a clean pocket. I would think younger and better is a good thing. Also have you noticed our penalties are way down as compared to last year? Another plus!
        Anything will be an upgrade over the run blocking we had last year...as I pointed out in that post. I said by default. As for the pass blocking...it's preseason, take it with a grain of salt until it's the regular season, when it comes to these young lineman. It's certainly nice to see, but there is no guarantee this will be done with regularity during the entirety of a real game.

        Three rookies...pretty much. That's what we're looking at. You realize how uncommon something like that is? Teams struggle to find the right lineman for years. So expecting us, to play three inexperienced guys and to have a much better line, may be a bit of stretch. As for penalties...again, you wont know what we're looking at here until the regular season. For all we know, Nagy make get overwhelmed over the cousre of a full game, against real starters, in real games, and become grabby. lol. You just dont know yet. But years of NFL history, would certainly say that this is a bad idea and we're gonna have some problems.

        Starting two inexperienced guys is risky, hell starting one can be...we're starting three, and it's not like they're even of the "highly touted" variety, aside from Tyron. We dont really know what we have...it's a roll of the dice type move. And a dangerous one.
        Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 08-29-2011, 07:09 PM.

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        • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
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          You keep saying that but in your above post you said the run blocking is much better than last year and they are giving Tony a clean pocket. I would think younger and better is a good thing. Also have you noticed our penalties are way down as compared to last year? Another plus!
          I think we need to ease up on the raving practice and preseason comments and wait until the season starts before we start to crown our young OL.

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          • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
            I'm with you. Trust me. I'm not looking at this through rose colored glasses like some of our other fans here.
            When we first started I was very worried with our OL. I am still worried, but as I look around our division, I am not that worried anymore. Other teams have a worse situation, and it's about protecting your QB.

            Romo is coming back from IR

            Vick can't stay healthy

            And Beck is an unknown in this division.

            But all teams, well 3/4 have firepower, but you need a solid OL for anything productive to happen on offense.

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
              I think we need to ease up on the raving practice and preseason comments and wait until the season starts before we start to crown our young OL.
              I agree, but you need to quit with all the doom and gloom. Let it play out. All we have to go by is what weve seen to this point and i have reason for hope, moreso than you do for failure. I know were going to have some problems and I expect to start the year 4-3 but lets let it play out before we say how stupid we are...




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              • I certainly appreciate that we've attempted to remedy the O-Line situation from a year ago. I certainly would have been livid had Davis and Colombo come back. But what we're looking at right now, just seems freaking crazy. lol. Really, I would have just been a lot more comfortable with it, had we signed a LG or at least kept Gurode. I was behind it, but still nervous about going with two rookies in Nagy and Smith even.

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                • Originally posted by NY+Giants=NYG View Post
                  When we first started I was very worried with our OL. I am still worried, but as I look around our division, I am not that worried anymore. Other teams have a worse situation, and it's about protecting your QB.

                  Romo is coming back from IR

                  Vick can't stay healthy

                  And Beck is an unknown in this division.

                  But all teams, well 3/4 have firepower, but you need a solid OL for anything productive to happen on offense.
                  ... the Cowboys have the worst OL and worst Defense. You need not worry my friend. Jerry has shown time and time again that he's more interested in flash than substance. It's never gonna work here like it worked in the 90s until things change. He's high.

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                  • For me, it's not doom and gloom coming from me at all. It's just common sense based on years of football history. That starting these three guys all at once isn't the greatest idea. Or at least the chances off success, or consistent success, does not bode well.

                    Thanks BoneKrusher^

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                    • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                      When the majority of your line has one career start among them, 4 games total (all Costa)...you may have a problem on your hands. lol.

                      A lot of teams take lumps with one rookie starting...we essentially have three starting. I'm excited to see them play for sure, but at the same time...it's easy to recognize how much of a risky move this. And really, it's a stupid one, just based on the odds themselves. You have teams with veteran lines that suck...and we're throwing out three youngins out there. "Lumps" may be taking it lightly.

                      I really hope I'm wrong...because I actually have no problems with this as a "future" starting line. But to throw them all out there together, at the same time, seems...careless.
                      Hasnt that been us for years now?




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                      • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                        ... the Cowboys have the worst OL and worst Defense. You need not worry my friend. Jerry has shown time and time again that he's more interested in flash than substance. It's never gonna work here like it worked in the 90s until things change. He's high.
                        This is the only comment that I have a problem with. At least say "on paper", or something. Because, while I agree that it does look scary. We dont know what we have yet, until they're out there. For all my negative comments on the matter, there is certainly a chance that they actually perform consistently well...as unlikely as that may be. While we may have some problems...I wont actually say they suck for sure, until we get a chance to see them in the regular season. All I'm trying to do is inform, how uncommon this is and that the odds are against this paying off.

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                        • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                          ... the Cowboys have the worst OL and worst Defense. You need not worry my friend. Jerry has shown time and time again that he's more interested in flash than substance. It's never gonna work here like it worked in the 90s until things change. He's high.
                          LOL when did Bob hack D's account? ;)




                          The greastest team of all time...The OKLAHOMA SOONERS!!! http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

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                          • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                            For me, it's not doom and gloom coming from me at all. It's just common sense based on years of football history. That starting these three guys all at once isn't the greatest idea. Or at least the chances off success, or consistent success, does not bode well.
                            Yeah, initially I was very worried with our OL. But now looking around, I actually feel good about it when compared to the OL of other divisional rivals. Plus, we have one of the best OL coaches, so I think at the very least we can run the ball with Jacobs and Bradshaw.

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                            • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
                              Hasnt that been us for years now?
                              I'm having a hard time trying to keep defending my stance...because it's just common sense. Starting three inexperienced lineman...this is something most coaches in their right mind would never do. Just saying, it's an odd move, that you just dont see. Normally you'd like to have a nice balance and transition younger guys in at different times. You're just asking for mistakes, lapses, penalties, and just flat out beatings. And in a year where your GM constantlty preaches about being competitive, it's an incredibly akward decision. We have the type of O-Line makeup that one would expect from a heavily re-building team.

                              Thanks BoneKrusher^

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                              • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
                                LOL when did Bob hack D's account? ;)
                                The rest of our division is getting better by addition. We think we are getting better with subtraction. But hey, at least we locked up Marcus Spears, Orlando Scandrick and brought in the big boys in Abram Elam and Kenyon Coleman! What's not to get excited about, right?

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