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  • Originally posted by Number-94
    Originally posted by cowboysforever
    I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

    Anyone see him or else that impressed?
    Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

    I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
    No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

    Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

    Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.

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    • Originally posted by cowboysforever
      I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

      Anyone see him or else that impressed?
      He had a good game...but nothing you wouldn't come to expect. You throw him the ball...he goes up and catches it. He has been doing it all year for the most part. I'm impressed but not surprised...dont' see how CJ makes it into the Dallas Cowboys thread :?

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      • Originally posted by cowboysforever
        Originally posted by Number-94
        Originally posted by cowboysforever
        I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

        Anyone see him or else that impressed?
        Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

        I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
        No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

        Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

        Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
        Pass rush specialists can be found in the later rounds. Aka Gocong or Mark Anderson.

        With a heavy OG FA's i'll be mighty surprised if we don't try to get one. I think we need to atleast bring in one leader type OL this offseason.

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        • Re: Bradie LB

          Originally posted by cowboysforever
          Originally posted by thule
          Originally posted by JJJ888
          Originally posted by chrlopez1
          I think we have to many LB and we are not going to be drafting any LB in the draft. We could go for Thomas from Baltimore and take OL in round 1. What about Hurd and Austin...........It usually takes 2-3 years for WR to come around. I think we need OL help...but I would go after round 1. I did suggest earlier about Burnett....being traded...........about 2 months ago. I would keep him...............Round 1 who would u want to target..give a reason and why.........
          I think you have to target Blalock...a mauler as a guard who can either step in immediately or when Rivera retires.

          I've put some serious thought recently about drafting a WR. Here's what I think:

          -I think that either Hurd or Austin will become a reliable receiver. Maybe not #1 or #2 but definitely a #3.

          -I don't think Crayton will be anything more than a 3.

          -I don't want to stunt Austin or Hurd's growth by drafting another receiver and relegating them to 4 and 5 on the depth chart.

          -I don't know what to think about TO. I think a couple of playoff wins and he'll be fine. But on the other hand, if we don't win a couple of games, we could see a collossal TO collapse. Anyone know what the cap hit would be if we released him?

          -Terry Glenn can be a #1 receiver, but for how long?

          -On the other hand, if Jarrett or Ginn were miraculously available, I would certainly be willing to draft either of them (although that is extremely unlikely with the Pats drafting right ahead of us).

          -If we release TO, what about a veteran to step in and be a #2 while we see how Hurd and Austin develop?
          FA WR corps is bare this year. There isn't one guy out there I like...even as a number 2 guy.

          I agree with you it has to be a WR with #1 potential...aka Ginn Jarrett Rice.

          The more I think about it the more I think we could see Crayton moved. He is a RFA this year...I wonder if anyone would bite.

          My random note for the day. Darren Sharper apparently isn't sure if he will be in MN next year.

          I don't know how many of you were around...but he was my main target for FS and he has played great....and is a very good ball hawk. If for some reason he is cut (signed through 2008) he is our solution to the problem. Lets remember he signed right away with MN because that is where he wanted to go...we never even got a shot at him...this time I have a feeling his options are more open. He could be great for Watkins to develop and contribute to our team.
          I know he signed for big money in MN. But aint he a SS?
          Do you question Sharpers ability to play FS in the NFL? He is a natural ball hawk with the speed and smarts to play deep middle. Seems like an ideal canidate to me.

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          • Originally posted by cowboysforever
            Originally posted by Number-94
            Originally posted by cowboysforever
            I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

            Anyone see him or else that impressed?
            Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

            I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
            No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

            Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

            Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
            Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

            I want them to go

            1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
            2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

            Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.

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            • Funny to see Deion bashing BP on NFL Network yet having Mariucci trash the play of the team in pass coverage.

              Ya think Deion is a bit biased?? Lots more to his comments but basically it gets to some of the black ball players thinking BP is a bigot. Which he is not but funny how thin skinned some guys are.

              Anyway, Mooch basically said the players are going in all the wrong directions while trying to play Cover-2. He said it looked like someone make a coverage error on each passing down.

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              • Originally posted by cowboysforever
                Originally posted by cowboysforever
                Originally posted by Number-94
                Originally posted by cowboysforever
                I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

                Anyone see him or else that impressed?
                Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

                I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
                No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

                Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

                Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
                Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

                I want them to go

                1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
                2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

                Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
                I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

                I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

                As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

                1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
                1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
                1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
                1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
                1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

                2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
                2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
                2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
                2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

                3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
                3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

                Bottom line first day
                I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

                Second Day
                I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
                Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
                Little OT depth late
                and a NT I have a feeling.

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                • Re: Bradie LB

                  Originally posted by thule
                  Originally posted by cowboysforever
                  Originally posted by thule
                  Originally posted by JJJ888
                  Originally posted by chrlopez1
                  I think we have to many LB and we are not going to be drafting any LB in the draft. We could go for Thomas from Baltimore and take OL in round 1. What about Hurd and Austin...........It usually takes 2-3 years for WR to come around. I think we need OL help...but I would go after round 1. I did suggest earlier about Burnett....being traded...........about 2 months ago. I would keep him...............Round 1 who would u want to target..give a reason and why.........
                  I think you have to target Blalock...a mauler as a guard who can either step in immediately or when Rivera retires.

                  I've put some serious thought recently about drafting a WR. Here's what I think:

                  -I think that either Hurd or Austin will become a reliable receiver. Maybe not #1 or #2 but definitely a #3.

                  -I don't think Crayton will be anything more than a 3.

                  -I don't want to stunt Austin or Hurd's growth by drafting another receiver and relegating them to 4 and 5 on the depth chart.

                  -I don't know what to think about TO. I think a couple of playoff wins and he'll be fine. But on the other hand, if we don't win a couple of games, we could see a collossal TO collapse. Anyone know what the cap hit would be if we released him?

                  -Terry Glenn can be a #1 receiver, but for how long?

                  -On the other hand, if Jarrett or Ginn were miraculously available, I would certainly be willing to draft either of them (although that is extremely unlikely with the Pats drafting right ahead of us).

                  -If we release TO, what about a veteran to step in and be a #2 while we see how Hurd and Austin develop?
                  FA WR corps is bare this year. There isn't one guy out there I like...even as a number 2 guy.

                  I agree with you it has to be a WR with #1 potential...aka Ginn Jarrett Rice.

                  The more I think about it the more I think we could see Crayton moved. He is a RFA this year...I wonder if anyone would bite.

                  My random note for the day. Darren Sharper apparently isn't sure if he will be in MN next year.

                  I don't know how many of you were around...but he was my main target for FS and he has played great....and is a very good ball hawk. If for some reason he is cut (signed through 2008) he is our solution to the problem. Lets remember he signed right away with MN because that is where he wanted to go...we never even got a shot at him...this time I have a feeling his options are more open. He could be great for Watkins to develop and contribute to our team.
                  I know he signed for big money in MN. But aint he a SS?
                  Do you question Sharpers ability to play FS in the NFL? He is a natural ball hawk with the speed and smarts to play deep middle. Seems like an ideal canidate to me.
                  To me a FS is a corner with ball skills and less than ideal CB speed.

                  Is Sharper that?

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                  • Re: Bradie LB

                    Originally posted by cowboysforever
                    Originally posted by thule
                    Originally posted by cowboysforever
                    Originally posted by thule
                    Originally posted by JJJ888
                    Originally posted by chrlopez1
                    I think we have to many LB and we are not going to be drafting any LB in the draft. We could go for Thomas from Baltimore and take OL in round 1. What about Hurd and Austin...........It usually takes 2-3 years for WR to come around. I think we need OL help...but I would go after round 1. I did suggest earlier about Burnett....being traded...........about 2 months ago. I would keep him...............Round 1 who would u want to target..give a reason and why.........
                    I think you have to target Blalock...a mauler as a guard who can either step in immediately or when Rivera retires.

                    I've put some serious thought recently about drafting a WR. Here's what I think:

                    -I think that either Hurd or Austin will become a reliable receiver. Maybe not #1 or #2 but definitely a #3.

                    -I don't think Crayton will be anything more than a 3.

                    -I don't want to stunt Austin or Hurd's growth by drafting another receiver and relegating them to 4 and 5 on the depth chart.

                    -I don't know what to think about TO. I think a couple of playoff wins and he'll be fine. But on the other hand, if we don't win a couple of games, we could see a collossal TO collapse. Anyone know what the cap hit would be if we released him?

                    -Terry Glenn can be a #1 receiver, but for how long?

                    -On the other hand, if Jarrett or Ginn were miraculously available, I would certainly be willing to draft either of them (although that is extremely unlikely with the Pats drafting right ahead of us).

                    -If we release TO, what about a veteran to step in and be a #2 while we see how Hurd and Austin develop?
                    FA WR corps is bare this year. There isn't one guy out there I like...even as a number 2 guy.

                    I agree with you it has to be a WR with #1 potential...aka Ginn Jarrett Rice.

                    The more I think about it the more I think we could see Crayton moved. He is a RFA this year...I wonder if anyone would bite.

                    My random note for the day. Darren Sharper apparently isn't sure if he will be in MN next year.

                    I don't know how many of you were around...but he was my main target for FS and he has played great....and is a very good ball hawk. If for some reason he is cut (signed through 2008) he is our solution to the problem. Lets remember he signed right away with MN because that is where he wanted to go...we never even got a shot at him...this time I have a feeling his options are more open. He could be great for Watkins to develop and contribute to our team.
                    I know he signed for big money in MN. But aint he a SS?
                    Do you question Sharpers ability to play FS in the NFL? He is a natural ball hawk with the speed and smarts to play deep middle. Seems like an ideal canidate to me.
                    To me a FS is a corner with ball skills and less than ideal CB speed.

                    Is Sharper that?
                    Sharper has probabally the best ball skills of all the safeties in the NFL except maybe Ed Reed...he always seems to be around the ball when its in the air. So ya I would say he has stellar insticts and a knack for making the big play. He was do alot for our turnover margin..

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                    • Originally posted by thule
                      Originally posted by cowboysforever
                      Originally posted by cowboysforever
                      Originally posted by Number-94
                      Originally posted by cowboysforever
                      I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

                      Anyone see him or else that impressed?
                      Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

                      I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
                      No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

                      Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

                      Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
                      Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

                      I want them to go

                      1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
                      2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

                      Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
                      I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

                      I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

                      As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

                      1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
                      1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
                      1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
                      1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
                      1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

                      2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
                      2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
                      2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
                      2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

                      3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
                      3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

                      Bottom line first day
                      I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

                      Second Day
                      I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
                      Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
                      Little OT depth late
                      and a NT I have a feeling.
                      If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

                      With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.

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                      • Originally posted by cowboysforever
                        Originally posted by thule
                        Originally posted by cowboysforever
                        Originally posted by cowboysforever
                        Originally posted by Number-94
                        Originally posted by cowboysforever
                        I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

                        Anyone see him or else that impressed?
                        Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

                        I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
                        No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

                        Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

                        Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
                        Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

                        I want them to go

                        1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
                        2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

                        Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
                        I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

                        I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

                        As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

                        1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
                        1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
                        1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
                        1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
                        1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

                        2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
                        2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
                        2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
                        2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

                        3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
                        3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

                        Bottom line first day
                        I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

                        Second Day
                        I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
                        Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
                        Little OT depth late
                        and a NT I have a feeling.
                        If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

                        With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.
                        You and I are saying the same things.

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                        • Originally posted by cowboysforever
                          Originally posted by thule
                          Originally posted by cowboysforever
                          Originally posted by cowboysforever
                          Originally posted by Number-94
                          Originally posted by cowboysforever
                          I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

                          Anyone see him or else that impressed?
                          Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

                          I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
                          No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

                          Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

                          Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
                          Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

                          I want them to go

                          1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
                          2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

                          Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
                          I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

                          I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

                          As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

                          1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
                          1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
                          1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
                          1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
                          1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

                          2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
                          2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
                          2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
                          2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

                          3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
                          3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

                          Bottom line first day
                          I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

                          Second Day
                          I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
                          Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
                          Little OT depth late
                          and a NT I have a feeling.
                          If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

                          With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.
                          Breaston has no future as a NFL WR...hell even Green was a better recieving prospect then he was. I really would like to see your source that says hes a top end pro prospect. Maybe on the game broadcast....but he has never been a top tier WR prospect.

                          I want a guy who can tutor under glenn and replace him when he leaves. While hes not seeing the field as a WR...I wanna see him returning punts of TDs.

                          My guys is Ginn..but I won't get my hopes up because post combine he'll be a top 20 pick.

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                          • Thule, you know this goes as follows for a GM. So play Cowboy GM in this order ...

                            1) First you figure who you wanna cut.

                            2) Then you figure who ya sign or trade.

                            3) Then ya figure who ya draft.

                            But CB, OLB, OL, Backup QB, Kicker and WR are what we need.

                            This draft will have some talent in Kicker and WR and QB in 4-7.

                            So CB, OLB and OL are where we need talent early round.

                            But if Reggie Nelson falls you take him and move on....... Gaines Adams .......

                            Hey look at Kaymerion Wimbley for Cleveland last year. Great pick and he fell some. McNeil.

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                            • Originally posted by thule
                              Originally posted by cowboysforever
                              Originally posted by thule
                              Originally posted by cowboysforever
                              Originally posted by cowboysforever
                              Originally posted by Number-94
                              Originally posted by cowboysforever
                              I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

                              Anyone see him or else that impressed?
                              Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

                              I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
                              No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

                              Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

                              Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
                              Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

                              I want them to go

                              1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
                              2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

                              Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
                              I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

                              I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

                              As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

                              1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
                              1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
                              1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
                              1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
                              1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

                              2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
                              2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
                              2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
                              2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

                              3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
                              3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

                              Bottom line first day
                              I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

                              Second Day
                              I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
                              Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
                              Little OT depth late
                              and a NT I have a feeling.
                              If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

                              With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.
                              Breaston has no future as a NFL WR...hell even Green was a better recieving prospect then he was. I really would like to see your source that says hes a top end pro prospect. Maybe on the game broadcast....but he has never been a top tier WR prospect.

                              I want a guy who can tutor under glenn and replace him when he leaves. While hes not seeing the field as a WR...I wanna see him returning punts of TDs.

                              My guys is Ginn..but I won't get my hopes up because post combine he'll be a top 20 pick.
                              I am a UoM guy and I am saying this ... the guys they promote usually are not as good.... the guys they give up early on are usually great if they put in the work in the Pros. L

                              Loyd is a horrid developer of talent and plays favorites. Never trust a player Lloyd likes too much. Means he is Michigan nice and the coaches pump him up left and right.

                              Breaston will run 4.4 and is 6"1. He is just really skinny. See him today against USC?????? Stats looked good I think.

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                                Originally posted by thule
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                                Originally posted by Number-94
                                Originally posted by cowboysforever
                                I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

                                Anyone see him or else that impressed?
                                Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

                                I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
                                No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

                                Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

                                Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
                                Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

                                I want them to go

                                1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
                                2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

                                Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
                                I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

                                I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

                                As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

                                1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
                                1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
                                1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
                                1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
                                1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

                                2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
                                2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
                                2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
                                2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

                                3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
                                3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

                                Bottom line first day
                                I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

                                Second Day
                                I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
                                Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
                                Little OT depth late
                                and a NT I have a feeling.
                                If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

                                With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.
                                Breaston has no future as a NFL WR...hell even Green was a better recieving prospect then he was. I really would like to see your source that says hes a top end pro prospect. Maybe on the game broadcast....but he has never been a top tier WR prospect.

                                I want a guy who can tutor under glenn and replace him when he leaves. While hes not seeing the field as a WR...I wanna see him returning punts of TDs.

                                My guys is Ginn..but I won't get my hopes up because post combine he'll be a top 20 pick.
                                I am a UoM guy and I am saying this ... the guys they promote usually are not as good.... the guys they give up early on are usually great if they put in the work in the Pros. L

                                Loyd is a horrid developer of talent and plays favorites. Never trust a player Lloyd likes too much. Means he is Michigan nice and the coaches pump him up left and right.

                                Breaston will run 4.4 and is 6"1. He is just really skinny. See him today against USC?????? Stats looked good I think.
                                He did play well today. But SC was stacking the line for the run. He is a decent option on the second day...but he isn't as big of a deep play threat as he is played out to be. He had one TD all year before today and that was on a 62 yard broken tackle if i'm not mistaken.

                                Only in 2 notable games did he really have over 10 ypc. I want more of a deep threat. He did it in 5 games total...but I took away the big play and tried to average it out. He doesn't scream WR in the pro's to me. I mean is he really an improvement over Skyler? Skyler was tiny..but a far superior WR.

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