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  • Originally posted by thule
    Originally posted by cowboysforever
    Originally posted by thule
    Originally posted by cowboysforever
    Originally posted by thule
    Originally posted by cowboysforever
    Originally posted by cowboysforever
    Originally posted by Number-94
    Originally posted by cowboysforever
    I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

    Anyone see him or else that impressed?
    Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

    I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
    No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

    Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

    Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
    Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

    I want them to go

    1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
    2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

    Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
    I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

    I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

    As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

    1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
    1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
    1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
    1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
    1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

    2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
    2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
    2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
    2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

    3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
    3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

    Bottom line first day
    I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

    Second Day
    I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
    Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
    Little OT depth late
    and a NT I have a feeling.
    If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

    With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.
    Breaston has no future as a NFL WR...hell even Green was a better recieving prospect then he was. I really would like to see your source that says hes a top end pro prospect. Maybe on the game broadcast....but he has never been a top tier WR prospect.

    I want a guy who can tutor under glenn and replace him when he leaves. While hes not seeing the field as a WR...I wanna see him returning punts of TDs.

    My guys is Ginn..but I won't get my hopes up because post combine he'll be a top 20 pick.
    I am a UoM guy and I am saying this ... the guys they promote usually are not as good.... the guys they give up early on are usually great if they put in the work in the Pros. L

    Loyd is a horrid developer of talent and plays favorites. Never trust a player Lloyd likes too much. Means he is Michigan nice and the coaches pump him up left and right.

    Breaston will run 4.4 and is 6"1. He is just really skinny. See him today against USC?????? Stats looked good I think.
    He did play well today. But SC was stacking the line for the run. He is a decent option on the second day...but he isn't as big of a deep play threat as he is played out to be. He had one TD all year before today and that was on a 62 yard broken tackle if i'm not mistaken.

    Only in 2 notable games did he really have over 10 ypc. I want more of a deep threat. He did it in 5 games total...but I took away the big play and tried to average it out. He doesn't scream WR in the pro's to me. I mean is he really an improvement over Skyler? Skyler was tiny..but a far superior WR.
    Sklyer ran a very high 4.4 and is much shorter. Breaston was a CB and QB in high school. Was clocked 4.4. Was Big Ten freshman of the year. Is a great returner. And Lloyd hates him.

    I am not sayying this guy is Hester cuz he ain't that kind of fast but he is a poor man's Ginn. Not as fast but same exact body type. Same height and sam weight.

    How about Moore from Miami. Again, same situation with a program in chaos.

    If you have not figured -- I like big time programs that have bad coaching for later round talent. I think lots of players get lost.

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    • Edwards and Palmer are two best options for back-up QB.

      Plus both have talent -- look at how Atlanta has developed Schaub. Same type of player -- big-- strong-big arm-- needed better coaching then Al Groh.

      Now he is worth a #1.... like Romo.

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      • Originally posted by thule
        Originally posted by cowboysforever
        Originally posted by thule
        Originally posted by cowboysforever
        Originally posted by thule
        Originally posted by cowboysforever
        Originally posted by cowboysforever
        Originally posted by Number-94
        Originally posted by cowboysforever
        I heard CJ blew up today for GT?

        Anyone see him or else that impressed?
        Oh yeah...shows what he could of done with a real QB all along. Jarrett blew up also; I think Johnson, Jarrett and Rice are all coming out. I think one of them will drop to us, and personally I would accept any of them. Our WRs are old and there's nothing we can do about that.

        I either want Nelson, Wilson, Blalock and/or one of the WRs.
        No complaints on any of those WR in round 1. Think Jarret may fall for speed though. Under 4.5 though ... wowo.

        Mike Williams performance to date, the incredible amount of 6'5 plus guys coming into the league and Keyshawn's comments may also hurt him.

        Still does not solve the pass rush problems or OL problems -- the two biggest things on this team on either side.
        Which is the reason my mock has us trading some talent to get an additional 2nd rounder.

        I want them to go

        1) Pass Rusher round 1 -- Quentin Moses from Georgia looked good. Not sure he can play OLB.
        2) 2 OL in second round -- I think a Levi Brown falls to early 2 or even a Staley then Ben Grubbs late 2. I like Grubbs cuz he is big and strong but also has good feet.

        Anyway. I think my draft makes sense plus I think we can get WR later. Breaston and Ryan Moore come to mind.
        I'm not gonna be as bold as to predict trades and values. But I will put out some theories. JJ, Crayton, TO, Ellis, Burnett, Davis could all be with different teams depending on interest form other teams. Singleton and Coleman are cheap and likely wouldn't have much value anyways. They give us solid vet experience that you can't teach.

        I think its safe to say we address OG in FA...I mean its deep and talented and young. I think this is definately a possibility.

        As far as the draft goes...I'm not gonna predict picks we get from trading. Since a pick trade for JJ would likely go to his replacement at some times. Guys like Booker or Lenard come to mind. Booker would be the pick if Thompson isn't seen as a change of pace back. Lenard is our smash mouth HB type guy who gets the tough yards.

        1a- Blalock (if he's available idc if we touched it in FA...he is the pick)
        1b- WR (if Rice/Jarrett/Ginn are available I want them here)
        1c- Woodley/Moses (Woodley is ahead of moses do to the experience from my point of view)
        1d- Tank Tyler (not great but a solid pick solving a need)
        1e- Damien Hughes (stud CB could help)

        2a- Josh Wilson (stud CB shooting up the draft boards..great return man also)
        2b- Craig Davis (we need a deep guy sooner then later)
        2c- 2nd tier OG...nothing great...top of my board is probabally Kalil
        2d- Tom Zibby (sticking to my guns on this one)

        3a- Interior OL...Kalil, Young, ....ect
        3- position mentioned above that we didn't select.

        Bottom line first day
        I want to get a pressure player...a good interior Ol....and either a CB/WR with return skills

        Second Day
        I see us getting a backup QB...names like Kolb and Edwards pop into my head.
        Probabally go some sort of CB/WR going opposite of what we went first day.
        Little OT depth late
        and a NT I have a feeling.
        If you want a Punt Returner that solves some speed issues and can maybe develop in the Pros -- Breaston. He was considered a top end pro prospect after his Sophmore year but seemed to stagnate.

        With that said, Lloyd Carr does the least with the most in College Football.
        Breaston has no future as a NFL WR...hell even Green was a better recieving prospect then he was. I really would like to see your source that says hes a top end pro prospect. Maybe on the game broadcast....but he has never been a top tier WR prospect.

        I want a guy who can tutor under glenn and replace him when he leaves. While hes not seeing the field as a WR...I wanna see him returning punts of TDs.

        My guys is Ginn..but I won't get my hopes up because post combine he'll be a top 20 pick.
        I am a UoM guy and I am saying this ... the guys they promote usually are not as good.... the guys they give up early on are usually great if they put in the work in the Pros. L

        Loyd is a horrid developer of talent and plays favorites. Never trust a player Lloyd likes too much. Means he is Michigan nice and the coaches pump him up left and right.

        Breaston will run 4.4 and is 6"1. He is just really skinny. See him today against USC?????? Stats looked good I think.
        He did play well today. But SC was stacking the line for the run. He is a decent option on the second day...but he isn't as big of a deep play threat as he is played out to be. He had one TD all year before today and that was on a 62 yard broken tackle if i'm not mistaken.

        Only in 2 notable games did he really have over 10 ypc. I want more of a deep threat. He did it in 5 games total...but I took away the big play and tried to average it out. He doesn't scream WR in the pro's to me. I mean is he really an improvement over Skyler? Skyler was tiny..but a far superior WR.
        The other issue with Breaston is he plays with Arrington and Manningham. Pretty good talent over there plus a great COLLEGE RB.

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        • How about Kareem Brown for NT?

          I would trade our one for a 2 and 3 in this years draft in a heart beat.

          The more I review the lists the more I find guys I love that will go 2-4.

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          • To show you the hype and level of silliness in the NFL today....

            Would you believe or know that Kamerion Wimbley had a better rookie season thant Merriman?

            Wimbley had 11 sacks. That may be the best rookie sack numbers since LT for a LB.

            A few DE better like Rice, Kearse and Freeney. Leslie ONeal had 12.5 of SD in 1986 -- he was an OLB?.

            I know BP wanted him more than any other guy last year but .....

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            • As I said, I prefer the Seahawks than the Giants..
              Any prediction for the game?

              How did play Watkins against the Lions? Did we play the 3-4 or 4-3? I haven't seen the game yet.. How did Carpenter play? Henry? Spears?


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              • Couple of quick points I wanted to make

                - The different schemes you guys ran against the Lions...I liked it. Why didn't it work? 2 reasons.

                1. Guys are just not winning their individual matchups. For whatever reasons, the LB blitzes are getting picked up all the time.

                2. The safeties can't cover at all. Roy Williams is really being exposed out there.

                - You guys are similar to us in a sense that mistakes is what is costing you games. I think that will go away in the playoffs though, because the stakes are higher and players will be more conscious of their actions.

                - This team will be better next year than they are this year. You gotta hope BP stays and possibly replace Zimmer. But this is a young team, and I think that if you can BP, youre making a mistake. Honestly, who on the market would you rather have than BP right now? We'll gladly take him if you don't want him anymore.

                - Get rid of TO in the offseason. While he's a great player, his antics are just too much for a team to handle mentally. Even if its not his fault, he brings too much scrutinity to the table, and that wears a team down. He's also notorious for his 2nd year explosions. Remember the "rat" that he plans on unveiling later? Be ready to hear more TO in the offseason because of that. And thats exactly what he wants.

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                • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                  Couple of quick points I wanted to make

                  - The different schemes you guys ran against the Lions...I liked it. Why didn't it work? 2 reasons.

                  1. Guys are just not winning their individual matchups. For whatever reasons, the LB blitzes are getting picked up all the time.

                  2. The safeties can't cover at all. Roy Williams is really being exposed out there.

                  - You guys are similar to us in a sense that mistakes is what is costing you games. I think that will go away in the playoffs though, because the stakes are higher and players will be more conscious of their actions.

                  - This team will be better next year than they are this year. You gotta hope BP stays and possibly replace Zimmer. But this is a young team, and I think that if you can BP, youre making a mistake. Honestly, who on the market would you rather have than BP right now? We'll gladly take him if you don't want him anymore.

                  - Get rid of TO in the offseason. While he's a great player, his antics are just too much for a team to handle mentally. Even if its not his fault, he brings too much scrutinity to the table, and that wears a team down. He's also notorious for his 2nd year explosions. Remember the "rat" that he plans on unveiling later? Be ready to hear more TO in the offseason because of that. And thats exactly what he wants.
                  well put. as an eagles fan i have experienced this

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                  • Originally posted by cowboysforever
                    Thule, you know this goes as follows for a GM. So play Cowboy GM in this order ...

                    1) First you figure who you wanna cut.

                    2) Then you figure who ya sign or trade.

                    3) Then ya figure who ya draft.

                    But CB, OLB, OL, Backup QB, Kicker and WR are what we need.

                    This draft will have some talent in Kicker and WR and QB in 4-7.

                    So CB, OLB and OL are where we need talent early round.

                    But if Reggie Nelson falls you take him and move on....... Gaines Adams .......

                    Hey look at Kaymerion Wimbley for Cleveland last year. Great pick and he fell some. McNeil.
                    How is OLB a need? We're stacked at LB. That's the one thing that we will never go after unless someone gets traded.

                    BoneKrusher

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                    • Who are the big time OG's in FA this year? Any link to a site that lists FA's?

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                      • where did Ward and D-Unit go?

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                        • Originally posted by Staubach12
                          Originally posted by cowboysforever
                          Thule, you know this goes as follows for a GM. So play Cowboy GM in this order ...

                          1) First you figure who you wanna cut.

                          2) Then you figure who ya sign or trade.

                          3) Then ya figure who ya draft.

                          But CB, OLB, OL, Backup QB, Kicker and WR are what we need.

                          This draft will have some talent in Kicker and WR and QB in 4-7.

                          So CB, OLB and OL are where we need talent early round.

                          But if Reggie Nelson falls you take him and move on....... Gaines Adams .......

                          Hey look at Kaymerion Wimbley for Cleveland last year. Great pick and he fell some. McNeil.
                          How is OLB a need? We're stacked at LB. That's the one thing that we will never go after unless someone gets traded.
                          An OLB who can rush is not a need? Assuming we stay 3-4, tell me what you have seen to think otherwise.

                          Please, don't say Ellis. He is coming of a serious injury to his wheels and at best is good for 3rd downs next year at 32.

                          So Carpenter????? I think he is a 3-4 ILB b/c he is not explosive off the edge.

                          But let us not repeat this ad nauseum.

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                          • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                            - This team will be better next year than they are this year. You gotta hope BP stays and possibly replace Zimmer. But this is a young team, and I think that if you can BP, youre making a mistake. Honestly, who on the market would you rather have than BP right now? We'll gladly take him if you don't want him anymore.
                            I agree that we should get rid of Zimmer. A 3-4 guru is needed other than BP to teach these guys why the hell what we're doing isn't working. Because the pieces are all there, there's really no excuse anymore. This is pretty much the best possible 3-4 defense we could get. Sure, NT could beef up a little. Maybe Carpenter and Ware need a few rush moves. But the personnel is there. Zimmer isn't cutting it, and Parcells can't be the teacher for the entire defense and still be a head coach.

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                            • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                              Couple of quick points I wanted to make

                              - The different schemes you guys ran against the Lions...I liked it. Why didn't it work? 2 reasons.

                              1. Guys are just not winning their individual matchups. For whatever reasons, the LB blitzes are getting picked up all the time.

                              2. The safeties can't cover at all. Roy Williams is really being exposed out there.

                              - You guys are similar to us in a sense that mistakes is what is costing you games. I think that will go away in the playoffs though, because the stakes are higher and players will be more conscious of their actions.

                              - This team will be better next year than they are this year. You gotta hope BP stays and possibly replace Zimmer. But this is a young team, and I think that if you can BP, youre making a mistake. Honestly, who on the market would you rather have than BP right now? We'll gladly take him if you don't want him anymore.

                              - Get rid of TO in the offseason. While he's a great player, his antics are just too much for a team to handle mentally. Even if its not his fault, he brings too much scrutinity to the table, and that wears a team down. He's also notorious for his 2nd year explosions. Remember the "rat" that he plans on unveiling later? Be ready to hear more TO in the offseason because of that. And thats exactly what he wants.
                              Telling a Cowboy fan that Roy stinks is like worse than death. But yeah, he is horrid. He has no change of direction ability and forever bites on every fake.

                              TO does need to go but tell folks that here too. Funny cuz I heard he would be trade bait for Atlanta for one of their WR bums and a mid round pick.

                              On the D Scheme stuff, the blitzs are picked up b/c they are not timed right and everyone knows they are coming. That is the result of horrid coaching and horrid players not making any adjustments.

                              Also on D, these Cowboys don't understand what zone coverage is. The players are caught reading receivers moves, over-reacting, getting out of place in the zone and not tracking the QB and the ball.

                              I saw one play where Bradie almost broke his ankles trying to cover a cross pattern in the hash b/c he over commited to the first guy in his zone and then the QB went the other way for 16 yards. It was a symbol on film of what is wrong with the players on this team. Not a patient group of guys.

                              And as you know BP and Belichick Defenses are all read and react. This team can't read and over reacts.

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                              • Originally posted by Ward
                                Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                                - This team will be better next year than they are this year. You gotta hope BP stays and possibly replace Zimmer. But this is a young team, and I think that if you can BP, youre making a mistake. Honestly, who on the market would you rather have than BP right now? We'll gladly take him if you don't want him anymore.
                                I agree that we should get rid of Zimmer. A 3-4 guru is needed other than BP to teach these guys why the hell what we're doing isn't working. Because the pieces are all there, there's really no excuse anymore. This is pretty much the best possible 3-4 defense we could get. Sure, NT could beef up a little. Maybe Carpenter and Ware need a few rush moves. But the personnel is there. Zimmer isn't cutting it, and Parcells can't be the teacher for the entire defense and still be a head coach.
                                Amen. Folks expect BP to be micro manager god. Can Mora coach a 3-4? Crennel looks like he is staying.

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