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  • Costa to IR. Signed Darrion Weems (OT from Oregon). Ratliff close to returning but did not practice.
    Originally posted by D-Unit
    I have no clue what Bortles is all about. Has a funny name though. Sounds like a Pokemon.


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      • Hahahaha. Not so sure if any of you guys have ever watched The League on FX, but I just caught the first episode of season 4 and Jerry Jones is in it. Taco buys DallasCowboys.com and Jerry Jones flies Taco and the guys out to training camp to negotiate a deal to get the website back. Witten, Felix, and Ratliff make appearances as well. I'd recommend watching The League if you are into fantasy football.

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        • Originally posted by crisco0710 View Post
          Hahahaha. Not so sure if any of you guys have ever watched The League on FX, but I just caught the first episode of season 4 and Jerry Jones is in it. Taco buys DallasCowboys.com and Jerry Jones flies Taco and the guys out to training camp to negotiate a deal to get the website back. Witten, Felix, and Ratliff make appearances as well. I'd recommend watching The League if you are into fantasy football.
          The League is great and that episode was funny!!!

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          • I love 'The League'. It's honestly one of my favorite shows lol really the premise of it had me hooked but it's pretty awesome. I need to check for that episode on Netflix.





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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            • OXNARD, Calif. – Gavin Escobar will probably never be a good blocker. The question is whether he can be a good enough blocker to get on the field.

              Escobar remains behind James Hanna on the Cowboys’ tight end depth chart and his blocking deficiencies have been exposed in the first two preseason games. Escobar has the worst run-blocking grade of any player this preseason, according to ProFootballFocus.com’s data.

              “I work on it every day and try to take pride in it,” Escobar said. “It’s definitely gotten better, but it’s always got to improve.”

              The Cowboys knew Escobar, a part-time player as a sophomore at San Diego State because of his struggles as a blocker, would need time to develop in that facet of the game. They believed his potential as a pass-catcher justified using a second-round pick on him.

              Second-round picks are expected to make an immediate impact, however. It’s hard to envision that happening for Escobar as a rookie if he can’t beat out Hanna.

              "He’s developing. He really is," Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said. "He’s a natural pass catcher. He can run routes and get away from people. He hasn’t had a lot of opportunities in games to do that up to this point. The thing where he’s getting better and better is blocking, both as a run blocker and as a pass protector.

              “That’s not his strength coming into this thing, but he has the traits physically to be able to do that. He’s got to get stronger. He knows that; we know that. He just has to keep working at it. But one of the things I have been impressed with has been his nastiness and his toughness. He’s not afraid to stick his nose in there in any facet of the game, and that’s a good sign."

              The 6-foot-6, 249-pound Escobar isn’t going to get significantly stronger during the season. That’s the kind of development that comes during the offseason.

              “It’s really all technique,” Escobar said. “You can move a guy that’s bigger than you or hold him up at least with the right technique. That’s what it’s all about, getting the right technique and footwork all the time and just being consistent with that.”
              Maybe folks should stick to their teams thread where they might know more about whats going on? Maybe the guy will turn into something in a few years but personally I want my 2nd rounder to be a major factor THIS year. We didnt need to blow a 2nd rounder on a TE with the holes we have in other areas. Just my opinion.
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              • I felt the same way about Bruce Carter, PA. I wanted a 2nd rounder that produced NOW. I don't feel super duper fricken awesome about the Escobar pick myself, but I will remain hopeful. It's gonna take time though. Hopefully by the 2nd half of the season at least he'll be able to have an impact as a receiver.

                I wanted a Safety pretty dang badly with that pick. Though JJ Wilcox might end up being a better player than some of those Safeties taken ahead of him. He had a nice pick in the endzone last week! woop woop!

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                • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                  I felt the same way about Bruce Carter, PA. I wanted a 2nd rounder that produced NOW. I don't feel super duper fricken awesome about the Escobar pick myself, but I will remain hopeful. It's gonna take time though. Hopefully by the 2nd half of the season at least he'll be able to have an impact as a receiver.

                  I wanted a Safety pretty dang badly with that pick. Though JJ Wilcox might end up being a better player than some of those Safeties taken ahead of him. He had a nice pick in the endzone last week! woop woop!
                  Its one thing drafting a 1st round talent knowing hes going to get a redshirt to recover from injury and another to draft a guy in the 2nd and watching him get his ass kicked daily. If everybody stays healthy I dont see him getting much PT unless its in a blowout or something. Wilcox is looking like a solid pick. Webb, not so much :-/




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                  • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
                    Its one thing drafting a 1st round talent knowing hes going to get a redshirt to recover from injury and another to draft a guy in the 2nd and watching him get his ass kicked daily. If everybody stays healthy I dont see him getting much PT unless its in a blowout or something. Wilcox is looking like a solid pick. Webb, not so much :-/
                    Depends. Garrett needs to use him right. Send him out catching passes instead of using him as a blocker.

                    Sure would've been nice to have a crystal ball though. I wonder if we could've gotten Eiftert in Round 1 and Frederick in Round 2.

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                    • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                      Depends. Garrett needs to use him right. Send him out catching passes instead of using him as a blocker.

                      Sure would've been nice to have a crystal ball though. I wonder if we could've gotten Eiftert in Round 1 and Frederick in Round 2.
                      Already had/have that guy! How about NO TE's and draft positions we actually need? Doesnt take a crystal ball to see what our weakness was going into the draft, cant seem to remember anybody saying we sure could use a 3rd team TE in the 2nd round.




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                      • Originally posted by Trogdor
                        As far as Hanna vs Escobar they play different positions. Yes they both play TEs but there's a massive difference between an in-line TE and H-back role compared to a flex, off-line TE. Hanna is a seam splitter and has legit 4.49 speed. He runs like a big WR. Escobar is a very big receiver TE. He isn't fast and he is RAW with his blocking technique. His frame though will allow him to develop into a solid blocker while Hanna will always be a receiving TE with minimal blocking upside. PF28 saying that Hanna isn't a difference making threat while Escobar is.... just silly. Hanna is going to surprise people. He's way too fast to be covered by a LB and if safeties are watching him it means they aren't helping out in containing Dez.
                        Hanna does have more straight line speed than Escobar, but in the NFL or even in college (where he played in a pass happy offense), when has he taken the top off a defense or dominated the middle of the field? Do his abilities suggest he has the potential to be that type of player? Sure but I have never seen it from him.


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                        • Originally posted by princefielder28 View Post
                          Hanna does have more straight line speed than Escobar, but in the NFL or even in college (where he played in a pass happy offense), when has he taken the top off a defense or dominated the middle of the field? Do his abilities suggest he has the potential to be that type of player? Sure but I have never seen it from him.
                          sigh. Fine I'll bite again.



                          First play he runs past the LB for a long gain.

                          Second play he runs past the LB AND SAFETY for a long gain and TD.

                          Third play he runs and out and accelerates so quickly the safety is near out of the frame when he catches the ball.

                          Throughout the clip he's either behind or running away from a LB and typically did the same to safeties. Was he dominant? Absolutely not that's why he slipped despite having all the athletic markers. Did he display the ability to run the seam and make people look like they were in quicksand? Absolutely.
                          Originally posted by D-Unit
                          I have no clue what Bortles is all about. Has a funny name though. Sounds like a Pokemon.


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                          • Originally posted by Trogdor View Post
                            sigh. Fine I'll bite again.



                            First play he runs past the LB for a long gain.

                            Second play he runs past the LB AND SAFETY for a long gain and TD.

                            Third play he runs and out and accelerates so quickly the safety is near out of the frame when he catches the ball.

                            Throughout the clip he's either behind or running away from a LB and typically did the same to safeties. Was he dominant? Absolutely not that's why he slipped despite having all the athletic markers. Did he display the ability to run the seam and make people look like they were in quicksand? Absolutely.
                            Let me say as an OU season ticket holder, we dont use the TE much. Bradford used Griesham alot but after they both went on to the NFL they focused on throwing to the WRs 80% of the time. I'd take Hannah as a 6th rounder over Escobar in the 2nd everyday of the week.




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                            • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
                              Let me say as an OU season ticket holder, we dont use the TE much. Bradford used Griesham alot but after they both went on to the NFL they focused on throwing to the WRs 80% of the time. I'd take Hannah as a 6th rounder over Escobar in the 2nd everyday of the week.
                              Agreed. That being said Hanna will never develop into anything more than a receiving TE. The blocking aspect is limited by his frame.

                              Escobar has the frame and potential to be an all-around TE which we will SORELY need whenever Witten decides to hang-em up. Considering how much weight the team put on wanting to use the "12" formations it made the pick easy.

                              Out of all our picks Escobar was definitely my least favorite but I can understand the rationale and will give it time to see how he develops. Even with him being a 2nd rounder I fully expected him to be the 3rd TE and RZ TE. Two TE sets require someone who can run the seams to prevent the other team from cheating against the run and lets face it while Witten runs perfect routes he has absolutely no speed left. So as long as we are not talking about Escobar losing the 3rd TE spot to Rosario I'm not freting as he will be the #1 backup for Witten in the 2 TE formations.
                              Originally posted by D-Unit
                              I have no clue what Bortles is all about. Has a funny name though. Sounds like a Pokemon.


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                              • Originally posted by pocketaces View Post
                                Already had/have that guy! How about NO TE's and draft positions we actually need? Doesnt take a crystal ball to see what our weakness was going into the draft, cant seem to remember anybody saying we sure could use a 3rd team TE in the 2nd round.
                                Escobar can grow into something more than Hanna though. You're complaining about what he is right now. He was drafted for what he can become.

                                Garrett was horny for offense. I tried to make my thoughts clear that I had a STRONG hunch we were going with an offensive heavy draft. Ya'll heard me say it multiple times over and over. But I have to say even for myself that pick was a surprise. That said, he wasn't drafted to be our future 3rd team TE. He was drafted to be a starting TE in 2 TE sets with the idea that he is the future after Witten is done. ...and for the record, he can STILL end up doing that.

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