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  • Cowboysforever, I liked the way you broke down the offseason. I didn't agree with everything but some things did make sense...I'm gonna do something similar.

    I'm most avid about not throwing away money by wasting cap. Which is why I feel that James and Roy will be here next year. Their is a solution however.

    As far as FA goes I really only see 3 or 4 possibilities.
    1)Josh Brown...won't happen from the comments that JJ made but i have been on this all year and won't drop it.
    2)OG....There is solid depth out there this year...Leonard Davis, Eric Steinbach, Jordan Black, Derrick Dockery are all guys below 30 who could come in and give our line some solid experience which is something I feel we need.
    3)SOLB...Briggs and Thomas are both great options on the strong side. Will we be able to sway one or the other idk but this is a great place to try to address this need.
    4)FS....If a solid vet FS is out there I want him. Darren Sharper is the first person to come into my mind. He is worried about being replaced by Blue...but this team is clearly not on its way to a superbowl..so I'd be angry too if my contract came up in the next two years and it was gonna affect my future. If we can get him away for a second day pick or they have interest in a player of ours such as Crayton/Davis I wouldn't hesitate. Because its likely the S position is gonna be touched some time in this draft anyways. Veteran leadership to tutor Watkins holds more value to me here.

    So there are a couple of solutions here in the draft depending on how FA goes...I think i'm fairly accurate as far as what direction we will go in FA.

    I think obviously FA affects alot on how our draft will go...there are a couple of different senerios.

    If we get a veteran OG in fa...Blalock goes off the big board. A guy like Ramirez in the 3rd makes alot more sense in this aspect.

    If we go SOLB in FA...the draft really doesn't have any SOLB that I like..but it would also remove us going after a guy on the first day. I tend to think Carp and Burnett work the nickel next year...and Carp splits plays with Burnett or Ellis on the outside...this seems ideal to me as far as getting everyone on the field to earn their money. If we address OLB in FA I think its safe to say we'll leave it alone durning the draft.

    As far as FS goes...I think we need a vet. However if that guy just isnt' on the market...a guy like Zibby on the second day would be a nice addition to our team especially on special teams if we find outselves without Davis. I really like Piscitelli out of Oklahoma State if he is there on the second day. I actually see this as something big to address in the offseason.

    We need to get Roy playing the Rover in the Nickle...this would leave Burnett and Roy as so called lb's...Then leave Watkins/Piscitelli as the safeties....or if we sign our vet...Sharper/Watkins deep and the best part of this is...if Roy shows the ability to play the Rover Burnett become completely expendable..which leaves room to draft a pass rushing specialist.

    My gut feeling tells me that Woodley is available in the third round...call me crazy but after the combine and such it will be known that he has fallen from his potential first round grading.

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    • I still think we don't need another LB. Carpenter was amazing in the first half against the Seahwaks, the problem are not the LB, are the DE (as bbd said). If we want another pass rusher we shoudl grab Adam Carriker, not an OLB, imo.
      If we pick Thomas from FA we should have to bench Ayodele, Carpenter or James.. I want Carpenter to start, he really impressed me on saturday.. We have 5 good LBs, we dont' need another one. We need our DE to step up. Canty showed improvement, Spears is still sleeping. If they can't step up, we should grab another DE who can bring pressure inside..

      btw, I guess I'm a better and more productive pasta cooker than cowboysforever, just because i'm italian 8)


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      • I'm in favor of bringing in Darren Sharper to provide some veteran leadership and tutor Watkins. That's a fabulous idea.

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        • Originally posted by BX
          I'm in favor of bringing in Darren Sharper to provide some veteran leadership and tutor Watkins. That's a fabulous idea.
          Well he isn't a FA...however he did issue his worries that he was benched in the last game of the year for no reason for them to play Greg Blue. He says he wants to stay in MN...but its virtually up to them on what to do. We might have the ammo to get him...with a guy like Crayton tho. Davis might intrigue them aswell. Obviously draft picks are the most logical...I think if they are sold on Blue then a 6th could do the trick. Probabally have to be a player and a pick.

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          • Originally posted by Modano
            I still think we don't need another LB. Carpenter was amazing in the first half against the Seahwaks, the problem are not the LB, are the DE (as bbd said). If we want another pass rusher we shoudl grab Adam Carriker, not an OLB, imo.
            If we pick Thomas from FA we should have to bench Ayodele, Carpenter or James.. I want Carpenter to start, he really impressed me on saturday.. We have 5 good LBs, we dont' need another one. We need our DE to step up. Canty showed improvement, Spears is still sleeping. If they can't step up, we should grab another DE who can bring pressure inside..

            btw, I guess I'm a better and more productive pasta cooker than cowboysforever, just because i'm italian 8)
            Well my LB theory has alot to do with burnett. We saw in TC that Carp was productive in the nickel...but Parcells was thinking it was getting to be too much and lowered his nickel reps...if we are sold on Ellis being apart of our team next year...I think its safe to say he will still be getting quite a bit of snaps. Well if this is the case....Carp would likely spell him every other series or w/e and contribute in the nickel opposite Roy. I think if this is the case...we will get the most our of our top 5 LBs....but Burnett is really the wildcard to let this all happen.

            I agree if a LB is brought in here...either ellis or burnett have to be on their way out for this to make sense...ellis is so cheap it will be interesting to see what happens with him. Burnett's rookie contract should be due up soon...but I think parcells truely does value him on special teams and in nickel packages...which is why I say that Carp needs to show a good improvement their...for this team to make a big splash on a SOLB.

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            • Do you think that someone like Alama-Frncis could be avaible in the 4th-5th round? Like Anderson last year.. I like the idea of bringin an DE/OLB tweener to play 10-15 snaps a game lining up as a DE in the nickel..


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              • Originally posted by Modano
                Do you think that someone like Alama-Frncis could be avaible in the 4th-5th round? Like Anderson last year.. I like the idea of bringin an DE/OLB tweener to play 10-15 snaps a game lining up as a DE in the nickel..
                Carpenter was all over the place the last few games. He has game and will be on point next year. Ellis' return is up in the air. Burnette is great in the nickel. Ware is the stud. James plays the middle adequately. Adolye made some plays.

                There is no reason why we stil lcant bring in a beast linebacker like Adalius Thomas. He is used all over the field. Anybody see him line up in man coverage of Chad Johnson and mash him out of bounds? Or see him run step for step with slot recievers?

                Sometimes I think people suffer from a lack of imagination. Thomas on the slot reciever. Jam, jam, jam. This time, no jam,he blitzes off the edge, the same edge ware is on. Which one get's blocked? Especially with Ellis coming on the other side. Burnette rotates out and covers the slot with safety help. The MLB drops into a zone in the middle.

                Now look at the standard 3-4 set. Canty, Spears, Ferguson on the line. Ware, Ellis, James, Carpenter at LB. r shift the set and go heavy on the weak side with Ware on the line, Thomas at ROLD, James in the middle, Adolye, and Ellis.

                Thomas gives the 3-4 one more dimension and versatility. Passs ruch and coverage. Multiple personel sets for differing situations. Consider dropping Ware, Burnette, Thomas, and Carpenter into a flat zone across the field, about 7 yards off the line of scrimmage. Newman and Hnery in man, Roy and Watkins in zones sitting over the linebackers or covering deep.

                The possibilities are endless people!

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                • Originally posted by charles_haley_rules
                  Originally posted by Modano
                  Do you think that someone like Alama-Frncis could be avaible in the 4th-5th round? Like Anderson last year.. I like the idea of bringin an DE/OLB tweener to play 10-15 snaps a game lining up as a DE in the nickel..
                  Carpenter was all over the place the last few games. He has game and will be on point next year. Ellis' return is up in the air. Burnette is great in the nickel. Ware is the stud. James plays the middle adequately. Adolye made some plays.

                  There is no reason why we stil lcant bring in a beast linebacker like Adalius Thomas. He is used all over the field. Anybody see him line up in man coverage of Chad Johnson and mash him out of bounds? Or see him run step for step with slot recievers?

                  Sometimes I think people suffer from a lack of imagination. Thomas on the slot reciever. Jam, jam, jam. This time, no jam,he blitzes off the edge, the same edge ware is on. Which one get's blocked? Especially with Ellis coming on the other side. Burnette rotates out and covers the slot with safety help. The MLB drops into a zone in the middle.

                  Now look at the standard 3-4 set. Canty, Spears, Ferguson on the line. Ware, Ellis, James, Carpenter at LB. r shift the set and go heavy on the weak side with Ware on the line, Thomas at ROLD, James in the middle, Adolye, and Ellis.

                  Thomas gives the 3-4 one more dimension and versatility. Passs ruch and coverage. Multiple personel sets for differing situations. Consider dropping Ware, Burnette, Thomas, and Carpenter into a flat zone across the field, about 7 yards off the line of scrimmage. Newman and Hnery in man, Roy and Watkins in zones sitting over the linebackers or covering deep.

                  The possibilities are endless people!
                  If we bring in a high priced FA...someone is gonna be seeing the door...whether its Ellis who is dirt cheap and contract is up after 2007 or Burnett who's contract should be coming up in 2007...it will be interesting to see.

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                  • Originally posted by thule
                    Originally posted by charles_haley_rules
                    Originally posted by Modano
                    Do you think that someone like Alama-Frncis could be avaible in the 4th-5th round? Like Anderson last year.. I like the idea of bringin an DE/OLB tweener to play 10-15 snaps a game lining up as a DE in the nickel..
                    Carpenter was all over the place the last few games. He has game and will be on point next year. Ellis' return is up in the air. Burnette is great in the nickel. Ware is the stud. James plays the middle adequately. Adolye made some plays.

                    There is no reason why we stil lcant bring in a beast linebacker like Adalius Thomas. He is used all over the field. Anybody see him line up in man coverage of Chad Johnson and mash him out of bounds? Or see him run step for step with slot recievers?

                    Sometimes I think people suffer from a lack of imagination. Thomas on the slot reciever. Jam, jam, jam. This time, no jam,he blitzes off the edge, the same edge ware is on. Which one get's blocked? Especially with Ellis coming on the other side. Burnette rotates out and covers the slot with safety help. The MLB drops into a zone in the middle.

                    Now look at the standard 3-4 set. Canty, Spears, Ferguson on the line. Ware, Ellis, James, Carpenter at LB. r shift the set and go heavy on the weak side with Ware on the line, Thomas at ROLD, James in the middle, Adolye, and Ellis.

                    Thomas gives the 3-4 one more dimension and versatility. Passs ruch and coverage. Multiple personel sets for differing situations. Consider dropping Ware, Burnette, Thomas, and Carpenter into a flat zone across the field, about 7 yards off the line of scrimmage. Newman and Hnery in man, Roy and Watkins in zones sitting over the linebackers or covering deep.

                    The possibilities are endless people!
                    If we bring in a high priced FA...someone is gonna be seeing the door...whether its Ellis who is dirt cheap and contract is up after 2007 or Burnett who's contract should be coming up in 2007...it will be interesting to see.
                    If we bring in another pass rusher, whether it's another LB or a DE, Ellis is expendable. He's getting older and coming off of a nasty injury.

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                    • Originally posted by leroyisgod
                      Originally posted by thule
                      Originally posted by charles_haley_rules
                      Originally posted by Modano
                      Do you think that someone like Alama-Frncis could be avaible in the 4th-5th round? Like Anderson last year.. I like the idea of bringin an DE/OLB tweener to play 10-15 snaps a game lining up as a DE in the nickel..
                      Carpenter was all over the place the last few games. He has game and will be on point next year. Ellis' return is up in the air. Burnette is great in the nickel. Ware is the stud. James plays the middle adequately. Adolye made some plays.

                      There is no reason why we stil lcant bring in a beast linebacker like Adalius Thomas. He is used all over the field. Anybody see him line up in man coverage of Chad Johnson and mash him out of bounds? Or see him run step for step with slot recievers?

                      Sometimes I think people suffer from a lack of imagination. Thomas on the slot reciever. Jam, jam, jam. This time, no jam,he blitzes off the edge, the same edge ware is on. Which one get's blocked? Especially with Ellis coming on the other side. Burnette rotates out and covers the slot with safety help. The MLB drops into a zone in the middle.

                      Now look at the standard 3-4 set. Canty, Spears, Ferguson on the line. Ware, Ellis, James, Carpenter at LB. r shift the set and go heavy on the weak side with Ware on the line, Thomas at ROLD, James in the middle, Adolye, and Ellis.

                      Thomas gives the 3-4 one more dimension and versatility. Passs ruch and coverage. Multiple personel sets for differing situations. Consider dropping Ware, Burnette, Thomas, and Carpenter into a flat zone across the field, about 7 yards off the line of scrimmage. Newman and Hnery in man, Roy and Watkins in zones sitting over the linebackers or covering deep.

                      The possibilities are endless people!
                      If we bring in a high priced FA...someone is gonna be seeing the door...whether its Ellis who is dirt cheap and contract is up after 2007 or Burnett who's contract should be coming up in 2007...it will be interesting to see.
                      If we bring in another pass rusher, whether it's another LB or a DE, Ellis is expendable. He's getting older and coming off of a nasty injury.
                      Why I do agree with you...Ellis is on a dirt cheap contract...so we really have no reason to cut him. Burnett has value especially when it comes down to a 4-3 team. If I had to guess what guy goes it would be Burnett...but I guess someone would have to show interest for that to happen.

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                      • Originally posted by Jdallas
                        Originally posted by cowboysforever
                        Can we agree Henry to FS while keeping Roy Williams as SS is re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic?

                        Henry can't improve Roy's play any more so than Patrick can under the current conditions.

                        Maybe we can start here?
                        I personally don't think Henry is an upgrade at FS, but that's a completely different issue.

                        History has shown that a different player at FS can affect Roy's play because he had his best season while playing alongside Woodson in the secondary. That problem is that with all the accolades Roy has received in the NFL I don't know if there is anyone we could bring in that could get him to clean his act up and lose the weight he needs to and spend more time in the film room.

                        Bascially, in conclusion, a different FS can change Roy's play in the secondary, but I don't see a scenario where we could get a player who could do it. It would have to be a top tier guy with a lot of experience who is a leader. I don't see anyone like that available. Too bad we didn't ever bring in someone like a troy vincent. Part of me thinks that Aaron Glenn could be a guy who would be a positive influence on Roy and I don't know why he isn't.

                        Maybe a coach could do the job, but the only guy that comes to mind is Mike Singletary. There are probably a few other guys out there and hopefully our new defensive coordinator can light a fire under Roy.

                        Now that I have addressed your point about Roy, you have to admit that trading Roy isn't a real possibility. He just signed a new extension so he ties up serious money in the cap, he sells millions of dollars worth of merchandise, and his value as far as playmaking ability and knack for creating turnovers comes somewhere around offsetting his liabilities in coverage.

                        And if for some reason you still think that trading Roy is a possibility, admit that it won't happen this year with Jerry Jones as our owner. If it won't happen there is no point discussing it further because we all know what you're opinion on the subject is.
                        A different FS would help Roy justs like it would any other player on the team when he has a better mate. So we agree. Henry to FS with Roy at 230 lbs playing 2 Deep is (I agree) not a solution.

                        I would like to say, in Roy's defense, he seemed to play well in a "man based" 4-3 where typically SS responsibilities are much less than in the current scheme. I don't think this fact is lost to coaches around the league.

                        Roy can be traded but to your point Jerry hates to call uncle on "his guys." For all the critics of BP with "his guys" Jerry is no different but more destructive. Those two contracts to Bradie and Roy are perfect examples of Jerry not getting it.

                        Say what you will of Davis and Bidwell they are not weak at everything they do. Davis knows good young coaches and Bidwell does not normally give away the house for mediocre players. And Jerry Jones belongs in that class of owner/GM/whatever. Can't draft, over pays for talent, wants to coach and has way too many thoughts for public consumption.

                        I will still say Roy needs to either go via trade (prefer), lose 20 or hit the bench. He must have given up 10-13 TD passes this year. We will not get past 10-6 with him playing as is.

                        Tks for the dialogue.

                        I just can't se us traveling another NFL season with this stone in our shoe.

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                        • Originally posted by thule
                          Originally posted by leroyisgod
                          Originally posted by thule
                          Originally posted by charles_haley_rules
                          Originally posted by Modano
                          Do you think that someone like Alama-Frncis could be avaible in the 4th-5th round? Like Anderson last year.. I like the idea of bringin an DE/OLB tweener to play 10-15 snaps a game lining up as a DE in the nickel..
                          Carpenter was all over the place the last few games. He has game and will be on point next year. Ellis' return is up in the air. Burnette is great in the nickel. Ware is the stud. James plays the middle adequately. Adolye made some plays.

                          There is no reason why we stil lcant bring in a beast linebacker like Adalius Thomas. He is used all over the field. Anybody see him line up in man coverage of Chad Johnson and mash him out of bounds? Or see him run step for step with slot recievers?

                          Sometimes I think people suffer from a lack of imagination. Thomas on the slot reciever. Jam, jam, jam. This time, no jam,he blitzes off the edge, the same edge ware is on. Which one get's blocked? Especially with Ellis coming on the other side. Burnette rotates out and covers the slot with safety help. The MLB drops into a zone in the middle.

                          Now look at the standard 3-4 set. Canty, Spears, Ferguson on the line. Ware, Ellis, James, Carpenter at LB. r shift the set and go heavy on the weak side with Ware on the line, Thomas at ROLD, James in the middle, Adolye, and Ellis.

                          Thomas gives the 3-4 one more dimension and versatility. Passs ruch and coverage. Multiple personel sets for differing situations. Consider dropping Ware, Burnette, Thomas, and Carpenter into a flat zone across the field, about 7 yards off the line of scrimmage. Newman and Hnery in man, Roy and Watkins in zones sitting over the linebackers or covering deep.

                          The possibilities are endless people!
                          If we bring in a high priced FA...someone is gonna be seeing the door...whether its Ellis who is dirt cheap and contract is up after 2007 or Burnett who's contract should be coming up in 2007...it will be interesting to see.
                          If we bring in another pass rusher, whether it's another LB or a DE, Ellis is expendable. He's getting older and coming off of a nasty injury.
                          Why I do agree with you...Ellis is on a dirt cheap contract...so we really have no reason to cut him. Burnett has value especially when it comes down to a 4-3 team. If I had to guess what guy goes it would be Burnett...but I guess someone would have to show interest for that to happen.
                          What would we get for him, maybe a 4th rounder?

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                          • My Big Board

                            1. Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville - I gotta say, I know this isn't the top need but, this guy has so much upside to him it would be hard to pass him up. You may have heard it before, but I'll say it again, 4 years of D-1A experience and only 20 years young!

                            2. Justin Blalock, G, Texas - Definetly the more realistic choice. We have a couple of young RBs but up front we are getting long in the tooth. The "Marco Rivera Era" is over in mind.

                            3. Levi Brown, OT, Penn State - Also a great pick to bring some youth to our O-Line. At 6-5 328 a perfect OT-OG tweener to grab in the first round.

                            4. Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina - With Glenn and Ownes both drafted over 10 years ago, WR is also a position where could stand to get younger. Even though we have a plethora of young propects at WR, none of them posses the natural talent of Mr. Rice.

                            5. Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St. - I like this kids combonation of size and speed. Aaron Glenn, even though he holds his own, is not long for this league and we need to start thinking about the possibilty of Henry moving to Safety and plugging in a true playmaker a CB along with Newman.

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                            • Originally posted by thule
                              Cowboysforever, I liked the way you broke down the offseason. I didn't agree with everything but some things did make sense...I'm gonna do something similar.
                              Thanks.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              I'm most avid about not throwing away money by wasting cap. Which is why I feel that James and Roy will be here next year. Their is a solution however.
                              No person likes to burn real cash or fake (Cap) cash. But god, Roy? Do I need to endure his being two steps behind each and every TE in this league? He did give up 10-13 TD this year.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              As far as FA goes I really only see 3 or 4 possibilities.
                              1)Josh Brown...won't happen from the comments that JJ made but i have been on this all year and won't drop it.
                              Seattle will not let him go. I think they would franchise him. He is good for 3-4 wins per year and given the mediocrity over there that is big. Plus more money on a Kicker? What about Medlock or Mason in the draft CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP and have them fight Marteeeeen.....

                              Originally posted by thule
                              2)OG....There is solid depth out there this year...Leonard Davis, Eric Steinbach, Jordan Black, Derrick Dockery are all guys below 30 who could come in and give our line some solid experience which is something I feel we need.
                              Most intriguing is Davis b/c he can do guard or tackle but given his fat problem with a "players coach" like Green I can imagine him having an emotional breakdwon with Parcells. But yeah, the Guards are very good and I agree we need to bun MORE money here in spite of Marco and Kosier. This spot is way to hard for a Rook and FA is the best way to go.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              3)SOLB...Briggs and Thomas are both great options on the strong side. Will we be able to sway one or the other idk but this is a great place to try to address this need.
                              Well, I think Briggs is too small and is another version of Roy Williams in terms of body type. Hell same as Burnett too. Thomas is most intersting but he is 30 already ya know.

                              HONESTLY, I prefer we not spend here the more I think of it. I say we go with the guys we have. Use Burnett a alot more. Sit Bradie a lot more. Carpenter to WOLB and Ware to SOLB. Ellis for 10-15 plays per game. THEN draft a tweener that falls into the 2nd round. Moss, Woodley (I agree he falls), Alibaba Francis.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              4)FS....If a solid vet FS is out there I want him. Darren Sharper is the first person to come into my mind. He is worried about being replaced by Blue...but this team is clearly not on its way to a superbowl..so I'd be angry too if my contract came up in the next two years and it was gonna affect my future. If we can get him away for a second day pick or they have interest in a player of ours such as Crayton/Davis I wouldn't hesitate. Because its likely the S position is gonna be touched some time in this draft anyways. Veteran leadership to tutor Watkins holds more value to me here.
                              Well, getting a Veteran FS with a two year deal or something is OK -- particularly if he can play SS too. I still think we have a SS problem moreso than FS. Watkins showed us his skills in the end just like Carp. I love both their athletics on the field.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              So there are a couple of solutions here in the draft depending on how FA goes...I think i'm fairly accurate as far as what direction we will go in FA. I think obviously FA affects alot on how our draft will go...there are a couple of different senerios. If we get a veteran OG in fa...Blalock goes off the big board. A guy like Ramirez in the 3rd makes alot more sense in this aspect.
                              Agreed, but if you go FA for Guard, Round 2 for a Tweener OLB then your #1 needs go into a year 1 impact position -- WR or RB.

                              Guard in round 3 sounds good too but where ya gonna store him? Or who do you cut? All the current OL duds got big contracts and the performers are all FA this year???????

                              So ff we go FA for a Guard we have too many bodies to draft another rook. Al Johnson, Gurode, Proctor, Kosier, Rivera, Colombo, Flo, McQuistan, New FA Guard (say Davis) .... that is already 9 guys. You take 8 on game day. You draft a rook and you have 2, too many. I think CB or WR or RB makes more sense in the third.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              If we go SOLB in FA...the draft really doesn't have any SOLB that I like..but it would also remove us going after a guy on the first day. I tend to think Carp and Burnett work the nickel next year...and Carp splits plays with Burnett or Ellis on the outside...this seems ideal to me as far as getting everyone on the field to earn their money. If we address OLB in FA I think its safe to say we'll leave it alone durning the draft.
                              I like the second round for a tweener.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              As far as FS goes...I think we need a vet. However if that guy just isnt' on the market...a guy like Zibby on the second day would be a nice addition to our team especially on special teams if we find outselves without Davis. I really like Piscitelli out of Oklahoma State if he is there on the second day. I actually see this as something big to address in the offseason.
                              Constraints are setting in here. But point taken. You want a FS. I want to send Roy to a fat farm. Given the draft and FA I laid out not sure how you get a P-Man for anything less than a second rounder and not sure if you do this without trading some talent.

                              But based on what I read you would prefer we use FA for an OLB and use the second round for a FS. I prefer the oppositte.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              We need to get Roy playing the Rover in the Nickle...this would leave Burnett and Roy as so called lb's...Then leave Watkins/Piscitelli as the safeties....or if we sign our vet...Sharper/Watkins deep and the best part of this is...if Roy shows the ability to play the Rover Burnett become completely expendable..which leaves room to draft a pass rushing specialist.
                              Well I agree, Roy Williams, Burnett and even Lance Briggs are one and the same on passing downs.

                              Originally posted by thule
                              My gut feeling tells me that Woodley is available in the third round...call me crazy but after the combine and such it will be known that he has fallen from his potential first round grading.
                              I like him alot and think him a football player. Not BP size but he knows how to get to the QB and let me point out he plays in a conference with 3 first round tackles.

                              Also some scouts are saying he may make a better ILB in the pros. I know this sounds CRAZY but that is what they have said. Part of the rationale is he struggled as an OLB in the 4-3 in Michigan. So either 3-4 WOLB or 4-3 ILB.

                              Regadless, some good tweeners are coming into round two. You can bet NYJ and NE will pick some of these guys early. They have big needs at LB.

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                              • Originally posted by Modano
                                I still think we don't need another LB. Carpenter was amazing in the first half against the Seahwaks, the problem are not the LB, are the DE (as bbd said). If we want another pass rusher we shoudl grab Adam Carriker, not an OLB, imo.
                                If we pick Thomas from FA we should have to bench Ayodele, Carpenter or James.. I want Carpenter to start, he really impressed me on saturday.. We have 5 good LBs, we dont' need another one. We need our DE to step up. Canty showed improvement, Spears is still sleeping. If they can't step up, we should grab another DE who can bring pressure inside..

                                btw, I guess I'm a better and more productive pasta cooker than cowboysforever, just because i'm italian 8)
                                I over boiled the pasta last night blabbering here. The crab/shallot cream sauce was nice however.

                                I agree, we don't need another LB. Tie to make good with what we got unless we trade some depth.

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