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  • The Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett Combo scares the living daylights out of me. I think what will work in our favor is the fact that Miami gave us until Thursday to decide on Garrett. That's way too short of a window span. The last thing we need to be doing is going out and rushing this. If Jerry hires the first guy he interviews, I will be shocked.

    We need to go at this carefully and methodically. I'm fine with Wilson Phillips as our DC, but not so hot on him as our HC.

    Norv's offense doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it worked in the 90's but he's been around the barn too long doing the same thing. Teams have figured him out. Watching him in Oakland was pitiful. His offense stinks. It's lame and dry... and it doesn't work. I'd prefer the Phillips/Garrett combo over Norv. My ONLY hope would be if Norv brings Singletary along with him.

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    • Originally posted by Poet3334
      Originally posted by Jughead10
      I dunno, I guess you can pick apart any team like this but this is what I see.

      I see a QB while promising, got worse at the end of the season after coming out of the cannon hot. Which QB will you be getting next year.

      You have two WRs who are up there in age, one of which is a problem child. I know a lot like Crayton but he may be best suited for the role is he is now.

      The O-line while not a bad a some believe is still very mediocre.

      You documented your lack of pass rush. I guess some can point fingers in different directions regarding that.

      And the secondary you documented as well. Is Henry going to play FS? In which case who is your other corner and Roy is still Roy.

      The team is talented but I don't think as much as some think. Parcells really got a lot out of this team. More than most coaches in the league would and definately more than anyone who is potentially available now.
      So, you're saying that the Cowboys will never be as good as they are now because no coach will get anything else out of them? Hmmm.

      You're right, you can pick apart any team, but I won't do that. This team has not played well down the stretch for the last few years, after coming out of the gate very quickly. Is that coaching? I don't know, maybe it is. Could Romo's regression be a result of the couwboys not running the ball successfully? Maybe. Or maybe it's because of the underutilization of TO, and Witten, which could be attributed to game-planning. I am not blaming Parcells totally for the breakdowns, but he plays a big part in them. There is PLENTY of talent on this team, but the players didn't execute properly, AND the coaches did not put them in position to maximize their skills. There is plenty of blame to go around. I just think Parcells ran out of steam.
      I'm just saying the talent isn't as close to a Super Bowl team as some might think. There is A LOT of room for improvement. I guess blame could be pointed everywhere. Was TO and Witten really underutilized. Witten seemed to get more and more balls once Romo became QB. And how much more can you throw to TO. I know he caught a lot of TDs but if you threw to him more his drops would just be even more and further blow the rest of the league away. The only person who honestly thinks TO was underutilized is TO and thats because he is clueless. Wasn't he targeted or thrown to the 3rd most in the league?

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      • Originally posted by D-Unit
        The Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett Combo scares the living daylights out of me. I think what will work in our favor is the fact that Miami gave us until Thursday to decide on Garrett. That's way too short of a window span. The last thing we need to be doing is going out and rushing this. If Jerry hires the first guy he interviews, I will be shocked.

        We need to go at this carefully and methodically. I'm fine with Wilson Phillips as our DC, but not so hot on him as our HC.

        Norv's offense doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it worked in the 90's but he's been around the barn too long doing the same thing. Teams have figured him out. Watching him in Oakland was pitiful. His offense stinks. It's lame and dry... and it doesn't work. I'd prefer the Phillips/Garrett combo over Norv. My ONLY hope would be if Norv brings Singletary along with him.
        woudln't Jerry have to interview a minority before he could hire Garrett or is that just HC?

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        • Originally posted by Jughead10
          Originally posted by Poet3334
          Originally posted by Jughead10
          I dunno, I guess you can pick apart any team like this but this is what I see.

          I see a QB while promising, got worse at the end of the season after coming out of the cannon hot. Which QB will you be getting next year.

          You have two WRs who are up there in age, one of which is a problem child. I know a lot like Crayton but he may be best suited for the role is he is now.

          The O-line while not a bad a some believe is still very mediocre.

          You documented your lack of pass rush. I guess some can point fingers in different directions regarding that.

          And the secondary you documented as well. Is Henry going to play FS? In which case who is your other corner and Roy is still Roy.

          The team is talented but I don't think as much as some think. Parcells really got a lot out of this team. More than most coaches in the league would and definately more than anyone who is potentially available now.
          So, you're saying that the Cowboys will never be as good as they are now because no coach will get anything else out of them? Hmmm.

          You're right, you can pick apart any team, but I won't do that. This team has not played well down the stretch for the last few years, after coming out of the gate very quickly. Is that coaching? I don't know, maybe it is. Could Romo's regression be a result of the couwboys not running the ball successfully? Maybe. Or maybe it's because of the underutilization of TO, and Witten, which could be attributed to game-planning. I am not blaming Parcells totally for the breakdowns, but he plays a big part in them. There is PLENTY of talent on this team, but the players didn't execute properly, AND the coaches did not put them in position to maximize their skills. There is plenty of blame to go around. I just think Parcells ran out of steam.
          I'm just saying the talent isn't as close to a Super Bowl team as some might think. There is A LOT of room for improvement. I guess blame could be pointed everywhere. Was TO and Witten really underutilized. Witten seemed to get more and more balls once Romo became QB. And how much more can you throw to TO. I know he caught a lot of TDs but if you threw to him more his drops would just be even more and further blow the rest of the league away. The only person who honestly thinks TO was underutilized is TO and thats because he is clueless. Wasn't he targeted or thrown to the 3rd most in the league?
          When your biggest need is a holder... You're not far away.

          Improvement needed? Yeah. We have a lot of young guys at key positions. We need development. Do we have a lot of holes to fill in the starting lineup? 2-3 good players away... I'd say.

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          • Originally posted by TH3
            Originally posted by D-Unit
            The Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett Combo scares the living daylights out of me. I think what will work in our favor is the fact that Miami gave us until Thursday to decide on Garrett. That's way too short of a window span. The last thing we need to be doing is going out and rushing this. If Jerry hires the first guy he interviews, I will be shocked.

            We need to go at this carefully and methodically. I'm fine with Wilson Phillips as our DC, but not so hot on him as our HC.

            Norv's offense doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it worked in the 90's but he's been around the barn too long doing the same thing. Teams have figured him out. Watching him in Oakland was pitiful. His offense stinks. It's lame and dry... and it doesn't work. I'd prefer the Phillips/Garrett combo over Norv. My ONLY hope would be if Norv brings Singletary along with him.
            woudln't Jerry have to interview a minority before he could hire Garrett or is that just HC?
            Pretty sure that's just for the HC job... Why? You for Singletary?

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit
              Originally posted by Jughead10
              Originally posted by Poet3334
              Originally posted by Jughead10
              I dunno, I guess you can pick apart any team like this but this is what I see.

              I see a QB while promising, got worse at the end of the season after coming out of the cannon hot. Which QB will you be getting next year.

              You have two WRs who are up there in age, one of which is a problem child. I know a lot like Crayton but he may be best suited for the role is he is now.

              The O-line while not a bad a some believe is still very mediocre.

              You documented your lack of pass rush. I guess some can point fingers in different directions regarding that.

              And the secondary you documented as well. Is Henry going to play FS? In which case who is your other corner and Roy is still Roy.

              The team is talented but I don't think as much as some think. Parcells really got a lot out of this team. More than most coaches in the league would and definately more than anyone who is potentially available now.
              So, you're saying that the Cowboys will never be as good as they are now because no coach will get anything else out of them? Hmmm.

              You're right, you can pick apart any team, but I won't do that. This team has not played well down the stretch for the last few years, after coming out of the gate very quickly. Is that coaching? I don't know, maybe it is. Could Romo's regression be a result of the couwboys not running the ball successfully? Maybe. Or maybe it's because of the underutilization of TO, and Witten, which could be attributed to game-planning. I am not blaming Parcells totally for the breakdowns, but he plays a big part in them. There is PLENTY of talent on this team, but the players didn't execute properly, AND the coaches did not put them in position to maximize their skills. There is plenty of blame to go around. I just think Parcells ran out of steam.
              I'm just saying the talent isn't as close to a Super Bowl team as some might think. There is A LOT of room for improvement. I guess blame could be pointed everywhere. Was TO and Witten really underutilized. Witten seemed to get more and more balls once Romo became QB. And how much more can you throw to TO. I know he caught a lot of TDs but if you threw to him more his drops would just be even more and further blow the rest of the league away. The only person who honestly thinks TO was underutilized is TO and thats because he is clueless. Wasn't he targeted or thrown to the 3rd most in the league?
              When your biggest need is a holder... You're not far away.

              Improvement needed? Yeah. We have a lot of young guys at key positions. We need development. Do we have a lot of holes to fill in the starting lineup? 2-3 good players away... I'd say.
              Yeah you were a holder away. But this year the NFC was not very good. And that was just a hold away from a divisonal playoff game. I agree 2-3 good players away. But also a very good head coach too. My main point is I think the loss of Parcells will be a lot more than most are expecting. I haven't read all the pages since he retirement but is anyone the least bit worried about the progression of DeMarcus with him gone. I like Singletary and I think he could be a good coach, but Parcells he will not be. At least not right away.

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              • Originally posted by Jughead10
                Originally posted by Poet3334
                Originally posted by Jughead10
                I dunno, I guess you can pick apart any team like this but this is what I see.

                I see a QB while promising, got worse at the end of the season after coming out of the cannon hot. Which QB will you be getting next year.

                You have two WRs who are up there in age, one of which is a problem child. I know a lot like Crayton but he may be best suited for the role is he is now.

                The O-line while not a bad a some believe is still very mediocre.

                You documented your lack of pass rush. I guess some can point fingers in different directions regarding that.

                And the secondary you documented as well. Is Henry going to play FS? In which case who is your other corner and Roy is still Roy.

                The team is talented but I don't think as much as some think. Parcells really got a lot out of this team. More than most coaches in the league would and definately more than anyone who is potentially available now.
                So, you're saying that the Cowboys will never be as good as they are now because no coach will get anything else out of them? Hmmm.

                You're right, you can pick apart any team, but I won't do that. This team has not played well down the stretch for the last few years, after coming out of the gate very quickly. Is that coaching? I don't know, maybe it is. Could Romo's regression be a result of the couwboys not running the ball successfully? Maybe. Or maybe it's because of the underutilization of TO, and Witten, which could be attributed to game-planning. I am not blaming Parcells totally for the breakdowns, but he plays a big part in them. There is PLENTY of talent on this team, but the players didn't execute properly, AND the coaches did not put them in position to maximize their skills. There is plenty of blame to go around. I just think Parcells ran out of steam.
                I'm just saying the talent isn't as close to a Super Bowl team as some might think. There is A LOT of room for improvement. I guess blame could be pointed everywhere. Was TO and Witten really underutilized. Witten seemed to get more and more balls once Romo became QB. And how much more can you throw to TO. I know he caught a lot of TDs but if you threw to him more his drops would just be even more and further blow the rest of the league away. The only person who honestly thinks TO was underutilized is TO and thats because he is clueless. Wasn't he targeted or thrown to the 3rd most in the league?
                It's funny because the times when we really needed to feature TO and Witten, and Glenn like the playoff game in Seattle, we didn't. That just sticks out in my mind. Of course there's room for improvement, that needn't be said. I'm sure you can relate to that with Eli and the Giants. How can you say that this team isn't as talented as any other team in the NFC? Are other NFC teams that much better than Dallas? I don't think so. The margin is narrower than you think. Dallas did not play very well down the stretch. Coaches did not coach well. That does not mean that they were not in position to do some meaningful things this year.


                "You know what charm is: a way of getting the answer yes without having asked any clear question."
                Albert Camus

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                • Originally posted by D-Unit
                  Originally posted by TH3
                  Originally posted by D-Unit
                  The Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett Combo scares the living daylights out of me. I think what will work in our favor is the fact that Miami gave us until Thursday to decide on Garrett. That's way too short of a window span. The last thing we need to be doing is going out and rushing this. If Jerry hires the first guy he interviews, I will be shocked.

                  We need to go at this carefully and methodically. I'm fine with Wilson Phillips as our DC, but not so hot on him as our HC.

                  Norv's offense doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it worked in the 90's but he's been around the barn too long doing the same thing. Teams have figured him out. Watching him in Oakland was pitiful. His offense stinks. It's lame and dry... and it doesn't work. I'd prefer the Phillips/Garrett combo over Norv. My ONLY hope would be if Norv brings Singletary along with him.
                  woudln't Jerry have to interview a minority before he could hire Garrett or is that just HC?
                  Pretty sure that's just for the HC job... Why? You for Singletary?
                  I am on board with all the names mentioned for HC we need to find the best "Coach" because none of the names mentioned will comand that Jerry will have to listen to in the majority of personnel decisions... and just need to be able to work with what Jerry and his son, stephen(who will take over sooner than later IMO) give him

                  I was just curious because with the time constraints it would be hard to find the tokenn black guy to "interview" and not get Jerry in trouble for obviously just interviewing him meet the rule...

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                  • I actually believe Parcells held Ware back. Like he tries to do with all of his young players. He's overly conservative and I think if a new guy comes in and allows the defense to play more aggressive, then you will see more of his natural talent to show. Parcells got him thinking too much. I think the approach was good... but also factoring in that next year will be his 3rd year in the league, I think next year the game will have slowed down for him and that it will truly be his "breakout" year. The last thing I see is him plateauing.

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                    • Originally posted by TH3
                      Originally posted by D-Unit
                      The Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett Combo scares the living daylights out of me. I think what will work in our favor is the fact that Miami gave us until Thursday to decide on Garrett. That's way too short of a window span. The last thing we need to be doing is going out and rushing this. If Jerry hires the first guy he interviews, I will be shocked.

                      We need to go at this carefully and methodically. I'm fine with Wilson Phillips as our DC, but not so hot on him as our HC.

                      Norv's offense doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it worked in the 90's but he's been around the barn too long doing the same thing. Teams have figured him out. Watching him in Oakland was pitiful. His offense stinks. It's lame and dry... and it doesn't work. I'd prefer the Phillips/Garrett combo over Norv. My ONLY hope would be if Norv brings Singletary along with him.
                      woudln't Jerry have to interview a minority before he could hire Garrett or is that just HC?
                      We interviewed Todd Bowles for the HC position so the minority void has been filled for awhile.

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                      • Our only chance of landing Singletary as our DC is through Norv. So I'm actually not to against this...Garrett as our OC we have youth at our coordinator positions...that scares me a bit.

                        I like the pepper johnson scenario but then we have to factor in what hc would actually want to bring him in...none of the names I've seen would relate to him right now.

                        I also love the thought of Wade bringing over Manusky with him.

                        These would be my favorite ways of addressing out team.

                        My oddball thought of the day is this.

                        HC - Les Miles
                        OC - Jim Caldwell
                        DC - Todd Bowles

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                        • Originally posted by Jughead10
                          Originally posted by D-Unit
                          Originally posted by Jughead10
                          Originally posted by Poet3334
                          Originally posted by Jughead10
                          I dunno, I guess you can pick apart any team like this but this is what I see.

                          I see a QB while promising, got worse at the end of the season after coming out of the cannon hot. Which QB will you be getting next year.

                          You have two WRs who are up there in age, one of which is a problem child. I know a lot like Crayton but he may be best suited for the role is he is now.

                          The O-line while not a bad a some believe is still very mediocre.

                          You documented your lack of pass rush. I guess some can point fingers in different directions regarding that.

                          And the secondary you documented as well. Is Henry going to play FS? In which case who is your other corner and Roy is still Roy.

                          The team is talented but I don't think as much as some think. Parcells really got a lot out of this team. More than most coaches in the league would and definately more than anyone who is potentially available now.
                          So, you're saying that the Cowboys will never be as good as they are now because no coach will get anything else out of them? Hmmm.

                          You're right, you can pick apart any team, but I won't do that. This team has not played well down the stretch for the last few years, after coming out of the gate very quickly. Is that coaching? I don't know, maybe it is. Could Romo's regression be a result of the couwboys not running the ball successfully? Maybe. Or maybe it's because of the underutilization of TO, and Witten, which could be attributed to game-planning. I am not blaming Parcells totally for the breakdowns, but he plays a big part in them. There is PLENTY of talent on this team, but the players didn't execute properly, AND the coaches did not put them in position to maximize their skills. There is plenty of blame to go around. I just think Parcells ran out of steam.
                          I'm just saying the talent isn't as close to a Super Bowl team as some might think. There is A LOT of room for improvement. I guess blame could be pointed everywhere. Was TO and Witten really underutilized. Witten seemed to get more and more balls once Romo became QB. And how much more can you throw to TO. I know he caught a lot of TDs but if you threw to him more his drops would just be even more and further blow the rest of the league away. The only person who honestly thinks TO was underutilized is TO and thats because he is clueless. Wasn't he targeted or thrown to the 3rd most in the league?
                          When your biggest need is a holder... You're not far away.

                          Improvement needed? Yeah. We have a lot of young guys at key positions. We need development. Do we have a lot of holes to fill in the starting lineup? 2-3 good players away... I'd say.
                          Yeah you were a holder away. But this year the NFC was not very good. And that was just a hold away from a divisonal playoff game. I agree 2-3 good players away. But also a very good head coach too. My main point is I think the loss of Parcells will be a lot more than most are expecting. I haven't read all the pages since he retirement but is anyone the least bit worried about the progression of DeMarcus with him gone. I like Singletary and I think he could be a good coach, but Parcells he will not be. At least not right away.
                          I am definitely not in the group that sh*ts all over Parcells and blames him for the short comings of the team. I think he did a very good job this year, and had this team in position to do great things. Sometimes there is just a few things that go wrong, and once things turn south they sort of snowball. That is what happened in the final 4 games of the season, imo.

                          That said, I would gladly stack our team up man for man to any roster in our conference. I think we are simply better.

                          Look at the Saints, for example. They were starting THREE backup LBs! THREE! It boggles my mind how the got away with that. Add to that the stinkage of Fred Thomas and his pathetic ability to cover, as well as having Hollis Thomas (old and average, at best) and no-one-else at DT, as well as a 2nd year FS and a nobody SS (filling in for the rookie that was injured early in the year), and you have what should be a train wreck of a defense. Somehow, though that team made it to the NFC Championship game.

                          You could do the same with the Bears. Rex Grossman may, indeed, be the worst starting QB to ever lead his team to a Super Bowl berth. That in itself is difficult to comprehend, but when you factor in a general lack of play makers on offense, along with a defense that has really gone downhill as the season went on (with the Brown and Harris injuries being a big reason) and you have to scratch your head and wonder how the hell they got there, too.

                          The facts are that the Cowboys have a very good RB combo, along with what is arguably the best set of pass receiving weapons in the league. You may say that the WRs are old, but they are both 32, turning 33 sometime next year, and they are playing a position that is one of the most age-friendly in the league, at least to players that are diligent in their conditioning, which both are to an extreme. The key is Romo. My assertion that this team has the talent to be special is, in large part, dependent upon him being able to be an upper level starter for us. If you refuse to accept that condition, then we cannot have this conversation, because so much depends on him. The O-line has been solid, and there is reason to expect improvement with a couple of promising young players waiting in the wings.

                          On the issue of your D-line, the reason why you feel that way is because you aren't close enough to the team, and have likely seen too much national coverage of them. Spears became a bit disappointing as the season went on, but he still has a TON of potential to be great, and has yet to participate in a full training camp. Even so, he was very good as a run stopper for much of the season. Canty, meanwhile, really turned it on down the stretch, and was singled out for praise by the coach on multiple occasions. Feguson is a really good player who will never get credit for being such. He was probably the 3rd best 3-4 nose tackle from a run-stopping perspective this season. Better than both Wilfork and Washington, while a notch down from Williams and Hampton. He doesn't offer as much of an impact in the pass rush, but that is not really his job.

                          That is the makings of a really good D-line. There is a ton of potential there, but even on production alone, I still think they were well above average. You have to remember, even with all the late season struggles, this team still finished in the top 10 in rushing yards. That is the primary responsibility of the D-line.
                          Originally posted by 21ST
                          He was protecting his self
                          Originally posted by tjsunstein
                          From what? His leg?
                          Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
                          That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
                          "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

                          DeMarcus Ware

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                          • Looks like Jason Garrett is going to be our OC, possibly even HC?

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                            • Originally posted by dre1614
                              Looks like Jason Garrett is going to be our OC, possibly even HC?
                              Link on the head coach scenario?

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                              • Originally posted by thule
                                Originally posted by dre1614
                                Looks like Jason Garrett is going to be our OC, possibly even HC?
                                Link on the head coach scenario?

                                http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/story...765#commenttop

                                its the last comment


                                Whoa!
                                Apparently Garrett and Jones are talking about more than the Offensive Coordinator position:

                                IRVING - Not only is Jason Garrett talking to the Cowboys on Wednesday about possibly becoming the team's offensive coordinator but also its next head coach, according to director of public relations Rich Dalrymple.

                                http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstory/....158c8b79.html

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