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  • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
    I really have no idea what the Cowboys are gonna do with their 1st. Thats one of the toughest draft picks to project. I have a feeling Jerry Jones is just gonna draft whoever was the biggest workout warrior during the combine.

    If thats the case, don't be surprised if you get a guy like McCauley or Brian Leonard.
    Fust an FYI, Leonard is great and all.. but we won't be spending a second rounder on a fullback. Regardless of his amazingness and play making ability.
    Originally posted by Patriots-Lions
    Dave is right
    Originally posted by duckseason
    Brady is 'just' the Queen on Belichick's chess board.

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    • Originally posted by Dave
      Originally posted by TNewFan41
      In the 7th round? who cares?
      He was arrested for possession, granted he did it in college but that is a huge stain on your record.
      Again, it is the 7th round, who cares? Its not like we are taking him in the first round. :roll:

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      • Originally posted by Paul
        I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
        Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.

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        • Originally posted by TNewFan41
          Originally posted by Paul
          I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
          Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
          I agree we'll see improvement, but not in the preseason, not for the first six to eight games either. It'll take time before it finally locks in and our defense shifts gears completely.
          Originally posted by Patriots-Lions
          Dave is right
          Originally posted by duckseason
          Brady is 'just' the Queen on Belichick's chess board.

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          • Originally posted by Dave
            Originally posted by TNewFan41
            Originally posted by Paul
            I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
            Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
            I agree we'll see improvement, but not in the preseason, not for the first six to eight games either. It'll take time before it finally locks in and our defense shifts gears completely.
            Yes we will, what kind of statement is that, we will have a good pash rush all season.

            So you want to move Henry?

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            • Originally posted by TNewFan41
              Yes we will, what kind of statement is that, we will have a good pash rush all season.

              So you want to move Henry?
              It's a broad one, but a good one imo. We should have a great pass rush, but if you noticed our D-Line was getting flopped around near the end of the year. Not to mention as soon as Greg Ellis was gone our production was down. As for moving Henry, I think it depends on how Pat Watkins plays before preseason and in preseason. I think you give Henry a few snaps at Safety to see how he does, that won't do any harm, but I think you should still let Watkins develop.
              Originally posted by Patriots-Lions
              Dave is right
              Originally posted by duckseason
              Brady is 'just' the Queen on Belichick's chess board.

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              • Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                Originally posted by Staubach12
                Originally posted by M.O.T.H.
                A little more on Henry.

                The transition to FS would seem to go quite smoothly. Obviously fast enough to play the position, has great field vision to play the center, and he's a great tackler. I would love the move. It would also enable us to try to develop Watkins while, henry mans the starting job. Henry at FS is better than what Wade had in SD with Marlon Mcree IMO, once again I'd love the move.
                I'd like to move Henry to FS, but I'm still not sure if that's the right move because of CB. I know, we want to throw money at Clements, but he's going to get some big money thrown at him, and I'm just not sure we would spend that much money on the guy. He's really going to rack in being the only really good CB in this FA market. As far as the draft goes, I just don't like the idea of starting a rookie CB, I just don't. I think CB is one of those positions where you don't play them off the bat, and I'm not even sure if we could be one of those top teams if we get killed by the pass because we have a rookie starting at CB. I don't like putting Glenn to start either. Remember the skins game last year. Just remember... Anyway, all this being said, I'd very much like to sign Ken Hamlin to be our starting FS, and get a developmental corner in the 2nd or 3rd round. I like (as most of you problably know) Jonathan Wade from Tennessee.
                Well... I figure if we dont land Clements. Just leave Henry at corner and hope for the best and tackle the safety need in the draft. I love some of these safties, I think Nelson or Meriweather would be a fantasic addition in round one. I dont think Nelson would be available but, who knows Kiper has us getting him in his mock. :D As for Ken Hamlin that's a thought but, I dont think the Seahwaks are going to let a player of his caliber hit the open market, i'd be very surprised actually.

                Just wondering if you want to develop a corner selected in the 2nd, 3rd ala Wade. Who do you want in the first?
                Soory I haven't responded to this earlier, I've been kind of busy. I saw Kiper's mock, and really hoping that that comes true. As far as corner in the 1st, I like Aarron Ross or Daymeion Hughes. They're both smart guys who play well, but both need to take just a few less chances, which we could coach them to do, and they'd turn out fine. I still don't want them starting as rookies, though.

                BoneKrusher

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                • Originally posted by TNewFan41
                  Originally posted by Paul
                  I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
                  Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
                  Uh... homer, much?

                  BoneKrusher

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                  • I dont want Aaron Ross if he runs a 4.5 forty.

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                    • Originally posted by Staubach12
                      Originally posted by TNewFan41
                      Originally posted by Paul
                      I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
                      Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
                      Uh... homer, much?
                      LOL, you gotta love TNew, he is like the polar opposite of CowboysForever. One is the ultimate pessimist the other the ultimate optimist.

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                      • Originally posted by Staubach12
                        Originally posted by TNewFan41
                        Originally posted by Paul
                        I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
                        Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
                        Uh... homer, much?
                        not really, have you seen San Diego's secondary?

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                        • Originally posted by Paul
                          Originally posted by Staubach12
                          Originally posted by TNewFan41
                          Originally posted by Paul
                          I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
                          Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
                          Uh... homer, much?
                          LOL, you gotta love TNew, he is like the polar opposite of CowboysForever. One is the ultimate pessimist the other the ultimate optimist.
                          thank you. I just believe this team has to much talent to be 9-7. We should be 12-4 at WORST. and we are young too.

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                          • Originally posted by TNewFan41
                            Originally posted by Staubach12
                            Originally posted by TNewFan41
                            Originally posted by Paul
                            I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
                            Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
                            Uh... homer, much?
                            not really, have you seen San Diego's secondary?
                            Yes, I have, actually. They've got tons of talent, and still ranked 13th in the league. Not exactly top-noch. So, don't tell me that Wade Phillips will come in here and everything will get better, even if we had all 7th round picks starting in the secondary. It's magic! :roll: Please...

                            BoneKrusher

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                            • Drafting CB in round could give us many options..

                              - If we move Henry to FS we still have Newman to cover the best guy on the field, and Henry to help the rookie. And we have Aaron Glenn too, who I thik is capable of another good season.
                              - We can see if Watkins could develope into a good centerfield. If he can, Henry can stay at CB and the rookie can play the nickel and learn from our veteran CBs.
                              - Even with Henry and Newman, we still need another CB, considering that this is probably the last season of Aaron Glenn..
                              - Henry isn't so young. I guess he will be 31 next season, do you think he can play so effective for many years to come?


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                              • Originally posted by Staubach12
                                Originally posted by TNewFan41
                                Originally posted by Staubach12
                                Originally posted by TNewFan41
                                Originally posted by Paul
                                I'm not of fan of moving Henry to FS at all. He may have had an off season this year, but he is more then capable to be solid opposite of Newman. People forget only a two years ago, people were looking at him as the savior at that position, even outplaying Newman. So I have complete trust in him.
                                Thank you. Moving Henry would be stupid. He is already a good CB, why move him when you don't even know if he will be a good FS. Plus with a pash rush, which we will have this year because of Wade's blitzes and schemes, we could have all 7th round picks in the secondary and still dominate. Look at San Diego's secondary, they were fine, and ours is 10x better. So imagine our seconday with their pass rush. That equals 20 plus INTs.
                                Uh... homer, much?
                                not really, have you seen San Diego's secondary?
                                Yes, I have, actually. They've got tons of talent, and still ranked 13th in the league. Not exactly top-noch. So, don't tell me that Wade Phillips will come in here and everything will get better, even if we had all 7th round picks starting in the secondary. It's magic! :roll: Please...
                                HELLO!!!!!! they ranked 13th in the league because they had a dominant pass rush.

                                :roll:

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