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  • Originally posted by Modano
    I'm not hating, D.. And not being american limits my possibility to express correctly what I want to say..
    The thing that I dislike of Parcells was his attitude to find "his" players, but in my mind "his" type of players were good for the NFL of 10 years ago.. This is the reason I didn't like the Fasano's pick.. He brings to his team Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe.. I can understand that we didn't have nothing better and that Parcells was force to deal with Drew "waste of a 3rd round" Henson, but Vinny was just a done player and Bledsoe was the same Bledsoe we knew.. But why hasn't he started Romo from game 1 this year? I think that is a matter of loyality, he wanted to give his old scolar Bledsoe another chance.. But today in the NFL there's no place for loyality, it's all business..
    I don't mean any disrespect, because I really like his abilities to grow up players and the way he turned our team into a good one.. But I simply think that he wasn't the old tuna on the field anymore and sometimes it seems that the game has passed him..
    I got the definite impression last year that Parcells would have started Romo from game 1. It was Jerry Jones that was against it, believing that Bledsoe, as a veteran guy, gave us the best chance to succeed.

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    • Let's let the BP thing go, I didn't mean to bring him up. I don't recall bringing up his name in that post, I didn't mean to bring him up because of the sensitivity of the situation, so if I did, I apologize.

      All Im saying is, the defense really doesn't have any "holes", moreso it has positions that require development for the defense to take the next level. In particular, the DE position.

      Ive played in a 2 gap scheme. We came out in a 4-3 BIG/46 Bear scheme on 1st and 2nd down, and we'd use a 2 gap line on 3rd and long and use the 2 gap technique to free up pass rushers to come unblocked. I know the 2 gap scheme very well, and Im telling you, its not as complicated as people are making it out to be. Im a big believer in the 2 gap scheme, it works. Its the most effective way of running a 3-4. It has produced 5 SB champions. Bellichick's scheme is no different from BP's. BP might use a little bit more man coverage, but its pretty much the same exact scheme. He used more man coverage on the edges probably because he had that luxury with Newman and Henry, plus his safeties aren't trustworthy to have large responsibilities in coverage. Heck, look what Mangini has done with the Jets using Bill Parcell's 2 gap scheme. And he has no players.

      The DEs in a 2 gap front have 2 gap assignments, inside and outside. Its simple. If its a run play, crash in, if its a pass play, crash out. Thats it. Not rocket science. You can tell what type of play it is by how the olinemen come off the line. If they pull forward, you crash in, if they drop back, you crash outside. Yet for some reason, Spears and Canty continuously screwed this up. Either they were never taught this simple technique, were purposely told to crash in all the time, or were just too dumb to comprehend the strategy. Trust me, theres ALOT of dumb athletes out there, and you'll be amazed at how some of them can't comprehend the simplest things.

      So thats what I think it will come down to. The DEs. Now, Phillips will 1 gap them more often and mask their inabilities in the 2 gap, which will help them out alot. He'll also do more stunt blitzes which should help. But still, I think the DEs need a solid TC to really develop their skills in the 3-4. This is not a 4-3 defense, they have to occupy blockers. If they can't comprehend that, then I suggest looking at DEs in next year's draft.

      In regards to Bradie James, I actually like him as a player. He's a run thumper, something that every good 3-4 defense needs in the middle. NE had Teddy Johnson, the Giants had Harry Carson/Pepper Johnson, the Steelers have Farrior....I think its needed. SD got away without having one because of Jamal Williams.

      Good example, look at the Jets. They didn't have a run thumper ILB, and they didn't have a good NT. They had statistically one of the worst rush defenses in the league. If you don't have a dominant NT, you need a run thumper ILB. James fits Dallas well. Yes, he is a liability in coverage in this new scheme, but if you can compliment him with a speedy guy, that negates his issues.

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      • I like James and feel he should stay. I think our LB's are fine, but just need more production out of the SLB. Which I feel if Carp can develop during the offseason, we may just have what we need.

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        • Ok, people.

          Here's a pop quiz -

          Name the SD starting OLB on the strong side.......(spoiler down below)




          Name the SD starting ILB opposite Donnie Edwards?.......




















          FYI - it's NOT Shaun Phillips, it's STEVE FOLEY. Yes, you remember, the guy that got shot by the POLICE outside his own house this past off season. Foley had a total of 1 sack in his previous 3 years combined before going to SD. His first year in SD he had 10 sacks. And they didn't even have Merriman opposite him that first year.

          The bottom line is that it proves 2 things. 1) You need multiple people at every position because you never know who will need to step in. So stop all the Trade Bradie James or trade this guy...just keep them all. There's an idea. 2) That Wade Phillips' scheme allows LBs to make plays. You never look at the NE defense and think, wow, they really get after the QB. You think, wow, they confuse the QB and cause turnovers that way. Both ways work, we're just going to change the way we do it. Which makes sense given the problems we have at S.

          Designs by Thule



          Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
          I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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          • Originally posted by LSUALUM99
            Ok, people.

            Here's a pop quiz -

            Name the SD starting OLB on the strong side.......(spoiler down below)




            Name the SD starting ILB opposite Donnie Edwards?.......




















            FYI - it's NOT Shaun Phillips, it's STEVE FOLEY. Yes, you remember, the guy that got shot by the POLICE outside his own house this past off season. Foley had a total of 1 sack in his previous 3 years combined before going to SD. His first year in SD he had 10 sacks. And they didn't even have Merriman opposite him that first year.

            The bottom line is that it proves 2 things. 1) You need multiple people at every position because you never know who will need to step in. So stop all the Trade Bradie James or trade this guy...just keep them all. There's an idea. 2) That Wade Phillips' scheme allows LBs to make plays. You never look at the NE defense and think, wow, they really get after the QB. You think, wow, they confuse the QB and cause turnovers that way. Both ways work, we're just going to change the way we do it. Which makes sense given the problems we have at S.
            Always good to hear from you. You make an excellent point. Something to note though, the last time NE won the SB, in 2004, they were 2nd in the league in sacks. #1 was Pittsburgh. Both use the 2 gap scheme. Pitt uses alot of zone blitzing out of the scheme, whereas NE uses the same scheme as BP. The thing with the 2 gap scheme is you need selfless DEs to swallow their pride and let the guys behind them make the plays.

            Now Phillips method works, and very well may work better with the current staff in Dallas. But like I said earlier, the scheme change means nothing if the players don't develop this year. Ware, Spears, Canty, Carpenter...they all need to develop as players.

            This year's defense will rely more on their individual developments than the scheme. I think the development of those young guys is the most important key to the defense next year. If they come out this upcoming year with the same skillset we saw this past year, I don't see an improvement coming. If however, they take their games to another level with the experience theyre developing, then its a whole different story. Only time will tell, and TC will be a big part of the development of this defense.

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            • BBD you make a great point about TC. Spears has torn his MCL in his rookie year and last year during TC. Assuming he doesn't do it again, :? , it should really help him. During his rookie year he said it was really knagging and he was only 70% all season.

              He and Canty have the size, and suprising quickness. They have the talent to be pro-bowlers, now they just need to develop.

              You said this defense has no "holes", and I agree, we just need some tweaks and need to execute.

              I wouldn't mind drafting Patrick Willis and trading Ayodele to get a quicker person next to Bradie. Just a thought.

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              • Originally posted by TNewFan41
                BBD you make a great point about TC. Spears has torn his MCL in his rookie year and last year during TC. Assuming he doesn't do it again, :? , it should really help him. During his rookie year he said it was really knagging and he was only 70% all season.

                He and Canty have the size, and suprising quickness. They have the talent to be pro-bowlers, now they just need to develop.

                You said this defense has no "holes", and I agree, we just need some tweaks and need to execute.

                I wouldn't mind drafting Patrick Willis and trading Ayodele to get a quicker person next to Bradie. Just a thought.
                stop thinking

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                • Originally posted by bigmac076
                  Originally posted by TNewFan41
                  BBD you make a great point about TC. Spears has torn his MCL in his rookie year and last year during TC. Assuming he doesn't do it again, :? , it should really help him. During his rookie year he said it was really knagging and he was only 70% all season.

                  He and Canty have the size, and suprising quickness. They have the talent to be pro-bowlers, now they just need to develop.

                  You said this defense has no "holes", and I agree, we just need some tweaks and need to execute.

                  I wouldn't mind drafting Patrick Willis and trading Ayodele to get a quicker person next to Bradie. Just a thought.
                  stop thinking
                  Well Bradie and Ayodele aren't the best together, so why dont you.

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                  • Originally posted by TNewFan41
                    Originally posted by bigmac076
                    Originally posted by TNewFan41
                    BBD you make a great point about TC. Spears has torn his MCL in his rookie year and last year during TC. Assuming he doesn't do it again, :? , it should really help him. During his rookie year he said it was really knagging and he was only 70% all season.

                    He and Canty have the size, and suprising quickness. They have the talent to be pro-bowlers, now they just need to develop.

                    You said this defense has no "holes", and I agree, we just need some tweaks and need to execute.

                    I wouldn't mind drafting Patrick Willis and trading Ayodele to get a quicker person next to Bradie. Just a thought.
                    stop thinking
                    Well Bradie and Ayodele aren't the best together, so why dont you.
                    Im sorry man, I forgot...you know it all. My mistake

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                    • Oyea! Oyea! Oyea! All rise for the Honorable Judge TNewfan41 presiding!

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                      • I hard that Wade play 3-4 on the first two downs and 4-3 on the third down in SD, if this is truth, we may see Carp, Ware, and Ellis play together over 30% on the defense play. If we do play over 30% 4-3, we should draft a regular 4-3 DT with good pass rush. I agree that we do need NT but not Tank Tyler (too slow). I would rather play Stanley.

                        Tank Tyler = last year Rodrique Wright or Kai Parham.

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                        • Originally posted by nrcirc
                          I hard that Wade play 3-4 on the first two downs and 4-3 on the third down in SD, if this is truth, we may see Carp, Ware, and Ellis play together over 30% on the defense play. If we do play over 30% 4-3, we should draft a regular 4-3 DT with good pass rush. I agree that we do need NT but not Tank Tyler (too slow). I would rather play Stanley.

                          Tank Tyler = last year Rodrique Wright or Kai Parham.
                          spears would play DT in the 43

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                          • Originally posted by nrcirc
                            I hard that Wade play 3-4 on the first two downs and 4-3 on the third down in SD, if this is truth, we may see Carp, Ware, and Ellis play together over 30% on the defense play. If we do play over 30% 4-3, we should draft a regular 4-3 DT with good pass rush. I agree that we do need NT but not Tank Tyler (too slow). I would rather play Stanley.

                            Tank Tyler = last year Rodrique Wright or Kai Parham.
                            I talked with thule about this very scenario, and we both think on 3rd and long he would play a nickle, with four down lineman. Ware and Ellis at the ends, Ratliff and Hatcher inside. Burnett as the lone LB, Roy as the rover, and 5 DBs(obviously).

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                            • Originally posted by bigmac076
                              Originally posted by nrcirc
                              I hard that Wade play 3-4 on the first two downs and 4-3 on the third down in SD, if this is truth, we may see Carp, Ware, and Ellis play together over 30% on the defense play. If we do play over 30% 4-3, we should draft a regular 4-3 DT with good pass rush. I agree that we do need NT but not Tank Tyler (too slow). I would rather play Stanley.

                              Tank Tyler = last year Rodrique Wright or Kai Parham.
                              I talked with thule about this very scenario, and we both think on 3rd and long he would play a nickle, with four down lineman. Ware and Ellis at the ends, Ratliff and Hatcher inside. Burnett as the lone LB, Roy as the rover, and 5 DBs(obviously).
                              First that is not a 4-3, and I believe your front four a little light. I am not sure you can stop the run either. I would put Carp and Canty in and move Roy back to SS.

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                              • Originally posted by Modano
                                I'm not hating, D.. And not being american limits my possibility to express correctly what I want to say..
                                The thing that I dislike of Parcells was his attitude to find "his" players, but in my mind "his" type of players were good for the NFL of 10 years ago.. This is the reason I didn't like the Fasano's pick.. He brings to his team Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe.. I can understand that we didn't have nothing better and that Parcells was force to deal with Drew "waste of a 3rd round" Henson, but Vinny was just a done player and Bledsoe was the same Bledsoe we knew.. But why hasn't he started Romo from game 1 this year? I think that is a matter of loyality, he wanted to give his old scolar Bledsoe another chance.. But today in the NFL there's no place for loyality, it's all business..
                                I don't mean any disrespect, because I really like his abilities to grow up players and the way he turned our team into a good one.. But I simply think that he wasn't the old tuna on the field anymore and sometimes it seems that the game has passed him..
                                You don't like BP bringing in "his" players? Like Ware, Carp, Witten, Newman??? You mean those guys? Every single player on the team outside of Flozell Adams, Andre Gurode, Roy Williams and Terrell Owens are "his guys". Judge the entire book. Don't just try to build your point by placing all the blame on Fasano. What's wrong with Fasano in the first place? He's not a bust. He's a rookie who helped us be able to run the 2 TE offense which allowed us to be the 5th best offense in the league.... and you can't say it was a bad pick just because you don't like the pick.

                                Secondly, Vinny was brought in as a back up. Only the unfortunate (fortunate for us) events surrounding Quincy Carter gave Vinny the job by default. Bledsoe didn't work, but it was a good try.

                                Third, Henson was Jerry's decision and the fact that Henson hasn't found a job anywhere else in the NFL tells me BP did the right thing.

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