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  • Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
    thank god!!! if we can come away with Miami's 2nd rd pick, or some players from detroit im all for it, that miami pick is basically a late 1st, and maybe we could get rogers and roy in some type of a package...


    good thing is we are trying to trade them, that just made my day
    It did didn't it! :D

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    • Many Bills fans on the MB are interested in Carpenter.
      Do you think he'll fit in the cover-2?
      What round draft pick would you want for him?


      Originally Posted by scottyboy
      my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused
      But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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      • Detroit runs a 4-3 don't they? Carp and Spears would both benefit from playing in a 4-3 scheme. Carp even more so than Spears.

        I wish we would look into the idea of Rogers. Ever since D brought it up, I can't get it off of my mind. But I feel like a deal for Roy Williams is more likely.

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        • Originally posted by Burns336 View Post
          Detroit runs a 4-3 don't they? Carp and Spears would both benefit from playing in a 4-3 scheme. Carp even more so than Spears.

          I wish we would look into the idea of Rogers. Ever since D brought it up, I can't get it off of my mind. But I feel like a deal for Roy Williams is more likely.
          I could've swore that they run a 3-4


          Originally Posted by scottyboy
          my lord...I cannot imagine such a world where I can mention Raymell Rice's thighs around a girl and not be the only one sexually aroused
          But for everyone reading this in Buffalo and Cleveland and everywhere else, take solace in the following: As crazy as it sounds, you're lucky. Your Mount Everest experience is still ahead of you. It's waiting, and it's glorious.- Bill Simmons

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          • Originally posted by Bills2083 View Post
            Many Bills fans on the MB are interested in Carpenter.
            Do you think he'll fit in the cover-2?
            What round draft pick would you want for him?
            I think he would fit well in a cover-2 scheme. Really any 4-3 base front would suit him much better than any 3-4 scheme.

            Not sure on the draft pick though. The argument could be made that he is just a square peg trying to fit in a triangular hole in Dallas and his talent is still first round grade. Now I know we would never get a first rounder for him, and an early-mid 2nd is a bit of a reach for teams to dish out for an unproven commodity. Maybe a late second, early 3rd? I would like to get more for the guy, but without him showing much as a cowboy Im not sure if its possible.

            Personally I'd rather package him and look for a player in return instead of a draft pick.

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            • If solely a draft pick no later then a 3rd, doubt anyone gives up an early 2nd straight up, but if a team comes off a 3rd and needs a lb its worth the risk for them, and could become a steal for somebody...i think we almost have to throw spears in the deal with Carpenter because Spears isnt worth crap and could be cut, but seeing how solid he is against the run at least, he could be stout in a 4-3 as well and be servicable


              Carpenter is going to be a solid LB when he gets someplace that needs him, I really think so, if I were him id want to be traded as well...





              Originally posted by Scott Wright
              I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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              • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                Great news! Thanks for posting it.

                It's all basically in line with what I've been thinking and hoping would happen (Carp/Spears). Except for the bringing back of Ferguson. I still think he'll get cut. Been saying Glenn's career is over barring a miracle. MOTH thinks Glenn will return though and has been arguing the point that we don't need a WR. So I wonder if he changes his mind now.
                Well, I was saying Glenn was coming back if he didnt need surgery...All reports indicated that he was getting stronger every week and he wouldnt need further surgery. He even went as far as saying that he would be back next season. As for them saying he needs surgery...that is false...TG has still yet to tell anyone that he needs surgery so, they are jumping the gun a bit there. He wont even meet w/ JJ until later in the week. It could go either way at this point.

                As for what we do at the position...I could see that going either way also...I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it wasnt addressed...but, given JJ's comments about bringing in some more offensive fire power...we might bring in another this off-season...this would probably spell the end for Miles...given Hurd's fast progression and the coaches constant praising of unknown, Isiah Stanbeck. Personally, I really do believe we would be fine if we didnt pick one up...Miles is not a guy I want to give up on and bringing in another receiver is just going to hinder Hurd's growth. We'll see what happens. I'd still prefer to stay w/ what we got.
                Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 01-22-2008, 05:58 PM.

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                • I dont buy any rumors of Ratliff moving back to end...I'd find it more likely that Hatcher gets the job or we look outside the organization. Wade loves Ratliff at NT. Is it possible? yes...but, Ratliff played just as well as any 3-4 NT in the league this season when healthy.
                  Last edited by M.O.T.H.; 01-22-2008, 05:53 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by M.O.T.H. View Post
                    Well, I was saying Glenn was coming back if he didnt need surgery...All reports indicated that he was getting stronger every week and he wouldnt need further surgery. He even went as far as saying that he would be back next season. As for them saying he needs surgery...that is false...TG has still yet to tell anyone that he needs surgery so, they are jumping the gun a bit there. He wont even meet w/ JJ until later in the week. It could go either way at this point.

                    As for what we do at the position...I could see that going either way also...I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it wasnt addressed...but, given JJ's comments about bringing in some more offensive fire power...we might bring in another this off-season...this would probably spell the end for Miles...given Hurd's fast progression and the coaches constant praising of unknown, Isiah Stanbeck. Personally, I really do believe we would be fine if we didnt pick one up...Miles is not a guy I want to give up on and bringing in another receiver is just going to hinder Hurd's growth. We'll see what happens.
                    I don't know MOTH. Yes we have some young guys at the WR position, but do you really think that they could turn not only into solid WR but into good/very good WR's? Now that Terry is probably gonna retire, do you think we'll be able to replace him using Hurd or Austin? I know our offense was amazing this year even without Glenn, but sometimes we missed another threat opposite to Owens. Against Detroit, sometimes they used three guys on TO! Yes, we killed them with Witten, but just imagine what a true threat opposite Owens could do in a situation like that.
                    I like Stanback's potential, but we need a guy who can replace TO in the future. He's gonna be 36 when his contract expires and if he will ask for a big contract I don't know if we're gonna resign him. He's still playing like he's in his prime, but at his age you can start declining fast...
                    I don't have any faith in Austin or Hurd to become more than slot receivers, and I do believe Crayton is perfect for the slot but JAG as our #2.
                    Bringing Larry Fitzgerald or Roy Williams will give us not only a threat opposite Owens, but a guy to replace him in the future.


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                    • Originally posted by Modano View Post
                      I don't know MOTH. Yes we have some young guys at the WR position, but do you really think that they could turn not only into solid WR but into good/very good WR's? Now that Terry is probably gonna retire, do you think we'll be able to replace him using Hurd or Austin? I know our offense was amazing this year even without Glenn, but sometimes we missed another threat opposite to Owens. Against Detroit, sometimes they used three guys on TO! Yes, we killed them with Witten, but just imagine what a true threat opposite Owens could do in a situation like that.
                      I like Stanback's potential, but we need a guy who can replace TO in the future. He's gonna be 36 when his contract expires and if he will ask for a big contract I don't know if we're gonna resign him. He's still playing like he's in his prime, but at his age you can start declining fast...
                      I don't have any faith in Austin or Hurd to become more than slot receivers, and I do believe Crayton is perfect for the slot but JAG as our #2.
                      Bringing Larry Fitzgerald or Roy Williams will give us not only a threat opposite Owens, but a guy to replace him in the future.
                      We need that deep threat to stretch the field. When TO (who can stretch the field himself) was hurt, it really showed up.

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                      • Originally posted by Modano View Post
                        I don't know MOTH. Yes we have some young guys at the WR position, but do you really think that they could turn not only into solid WR but into good/very good WR's? Now that Terry is probably gonna retire, do you think we'll be able to replace him using Hurd or Austin? I know our offense was amazing this year even without Glenn, but sometimes we missed another threat opposite to Owens. Against Detroit, sometimes they used three guys on TO! Yes, we killed them with Witten, but just imagine what a true threat opposite Owens could do in a situation like that.
                        I like Stanback's potential, but we need a guy who can replace TO in the future. He's gonna be 36 when his contract expires and if he will ask for a big contract I don't know if we're gonna resign him. He's still playing like he's in his prime, but at his age you can start declining fast...
                        I don't have any faith in Austin or Hurd to become more than slot receivers, and I do believe Crayton is perfect for the slot but JAG as our #2.
                        Bringing Larry Fitzgerald or Roy Williams will give us not only a threat opposite Owens, but a guy to replace him in the future.
                        The thing is...no, i dont know if they can turn into great receivers but, I would like to find out before we just give up on them. I mean, the passing game was not a problem at all...our guys helped Tony have one of the greatest seasons in Cowboy QB history and we did have the best offense in team history this year. This was a Super Bowl caliber offense.

                        As for Patrick Crayton, he doesnt really get that much credit on here...This was only his first season as a starter. A year where he wasnt supposed to have such a large role. Patrick is a fine player and he is still improving as a receiver. He was also banged up for most of the 2nd half of the season. He is better than a number of #2 receivers around the league.

                        Everyone is in a rush to find T.O.'s replacement but, this guy is no where near ready to retire and he is certainly going to re-sign as long as he is still playing at a high level by seasons end.

                        Yes, bringing in one of those two would be an interesting idea but, none of us know if it's really a possibilty....and Fitz's contract is ridiculous.

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                        • Peace out, Pasqualoni
                          4:11 PM Tue, Jan 22, 2008 | Permalink
                          Tim MacMahon E-mail News tips
                          Calvin Watkins reports that, according to a source, linebackers coach Paul Pasqualoni has accepted an offer to become Miami's defensive coordinator.

                          No word yet on DL coach Kacy Rodgers, but it'd be a stunner if he doesn't join the group of former Valley Ranch employees in Miami.
                          With all of our coaches going to Miami, I have a bad feeling that in repay for this, Bill is going to give jerry a discount for Darren McFadden. NO!!!!!

                          I love McFadden, but I think having Da Barbarian and Chris Johnson/Felix Jones, plus all of our other picks is better than just mcfadden. Way better.

                          Please gut, be wrong.

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                          • Originally posted by FinChase View Post
                            We need that deep threat to stretch the field. When TO (who can stretch the field himself) was hurt, it really showed up.
                            You have to take into account that our receivers behind T.O. are made up of a 1st year starter, 2 second year receivers, and an unknown that our coaches love. All these guys are going to get better. Miles def. has the speed to be a deep threat for us...we tried to get him the ball deep on numerous occassions...most of which ended in defensive pass interference calls...which are just as good as receptions. The opposition couldnt keep up w/ him. Stanbeck is another speedy guy who can potentially do the same...who knows? I dont think we have a problem...this isnt a position that needs to be touched until after next season, imo. Let's actually see what we have first.

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                            • Ill be the first to admit TO is in great shape and has at least 2 years to play at a high level, but what if he goes down? Will Austin come in and make plays? No. That would be wishful thinking if we thought he would...Crayton doesnt demand double teams as a #1, granted I love him as our wr period but he's not a #1...


                              and with stanback being the development guy, we will go after a FA wr, it might not be the big names we want, but if we cant get them we will grab one, because someone needs to be able to step up if TO misses time, unless anyone here was satisfied with the way our wrs played vs washington week 17 or in the playoffs...We cannot keep relying or expecting TO to play 16 games, if he broke his foot and was out for 3 months we would be horrible in the passing game, we need another aspect


                              I doubt we draft a guy, if we do it will be someone we really liked, and that would only be if we cant grab an impact FA wr...I like our wr core, I really do, but if we go into next year with the exact same group of guys, I still dont see us making it through TO missing a game, not with Crayton and Hurd as our starters with maybe Stanback as the 3, we need a proven guy to be our #2 that can replace TO if he gets hurt as the guy who needs to demand attention from secondaries, then crayton can be the 2 again, but we would be much more dynamic with a playmaker with our #2 wr and let crayton find the soft spots out of the slot...getting that wr opposite TO is more important then a rb to share with Barber imho





                              Originally posted by Scott Wright
                              I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                              • If Spears leaves one way or another I don't think Hatcher can handle the whole load as DE by himself. To me he just doesn't seem built to handle the run in a 3-4, but a rotation of Ratliff and Hatcher would be perfect and they can both contribute on the nickel as well.

                                AmI the only one who doesn't think we should use a 1st on a RB? Think about it, we have a Pro Bowler who should probably be a starter next year. Why spend so much on a backup player when the past has shown that starting quality RBs are often found outside the 1st round. Unless there is an elite player, I'm against drafting a starting RB in the 1st round. I find it very difficult to understand why anybody would want to spend a 1st round pick on a backup RB.

                                I would love to see Rogers come here. He still showed flashes of dominance in the Lions games I saw this year. I'm not sure how much you would have to give up for him, but I would like to take a look at him.

                                While I don't think I've ever been a huge Roy Williams supporter, I really don't want to see him back next year. He used to make up for his coverage liabilities by creating big plays, but he had no big plays this year and has seemed to regress in coverage. Without Roy we would have an almost perfect situation with Davis at SS and Hamlin at FS in the base and then move Hamlin to SS and Watkins to FS on the nickel.

                                Finally, I would be surprised to see Ayodele starting next season. If Carpenter leaves he still has a chance since I'm not sure if Burnett could take all of the plays over the whole season, but Akin did not play as well this year as he did last year and I think this is the year Carpenter takes a turn. The thing that most don't understand about him is that in the style of defense he played in college he didn't have to worry about attacking blockers and getting around linemen. He certainly has the athletic ability to do that and has proven he can learn with his vast special teams improvement since last season.

                                Desings by D-Unit

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