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  • My take on our WR situation

    Terrell Owens - His contract is up after next season. Jerry already stated that he will give TO his $3M roster bonus in June. I think he will be given one more 3 year deal, which will probably be the last one of his career. I don't think TO is the type to drag out his career and allow his game to decline in front of the public's eye. He will try to go out on top. If the Cowboys win the Super Bowl within the next 3 years, I think TO will retire. I expect a 3 year, 30-35M type deal.

    Terry Glenn - He was a fun guy to watch and cheer for in a Cowboys uniform. He totally exceeded my expectations. His career is at it's journey's end. He may be trying to put off surgery, but even if he were to come back, he wouldn't be the same. He didn't look the same this year when he came back and he had all the time he needed to. MOTH, we really can't invest a lot into what Romo may have said about him in practice, looking sharp and all. That's just a QB supporting a trusted and honored veteran. You should know better. The reason why Glenn had it specified that he would receive a $5M dollar roster bonus in June '07 was because he knew it was unlikely that he'd see many more years of his contract after that. He definitely wasn't going to see the $4,950,000 owed to him in 2010. Jerry is smart enough to know now is the time to cut the line. Terry knows it and that's why he's trying to avoid Jerry.

    Patrick Crayton - I've always felt he was an important part of the puzzle, however, never felt he was irreplaceable. I was ok with his extension. It wasn't a huge relief that we signed him, but it certainly was deserved. I like the stability that he brings to the table. He's grown with Romo and they're building something between the two. He's a good #3 receiver. Asking him to be a full time starter however, is not going to make us a feared offense. He's our version of Brandon Stokely.

    Sam Hurd - Hurd has a future with the Cowboys. We will always need that #4 WR and he can fill that role for a long time. He also has the capability of stepping in due to injury. Will he ever be a full time starter for the Cowboys? Maybe, but if that happens, we won't be winning any Super Bowls.

    Miles Austin - Will he ever put it all together? We keep hoping. As long as he has a job doing kick returns, he'll be with the team. His future is certainly in doubt and his contract is up in 2009. It's do or die time for him. With Terry Glenn leaving, Austin should have one more chance to stick on the roster, but don't be surprised if he's let go by the time we have to trim the roster down to 53. Aaron Glenn got cut last year. There are no guarantees.

    Isaiah Stanback - He will probably be given 3 years to show what he can do. I enjoy reading the positive news out on him. He's got a unique blend of skills. This coaching staff brought him aboard, so I don't see them giving up on him too soon. I think he has the upside to be a starter, but it will take time to get there. The 2009-10 season could be his true breakout year.

    We are strong at the bottom of the depth chart based off sheer potential. But there are still questions to be answered to see if they can reach their potential. The talent is there and it's no time to give up on them just yet. However, at the top of the depth chart, we are aging. TO is good for a few more years, but we have a spot open opposite of him for another really talented player to step up in. The guys lower on the depth chart could possibly grab that role, but it's a shot in the dark. Knowing Jerry and they way he likes to play football, I wouldn't expect anything less than another flashy name to be slated in playing opposite of TO in 2008. I expect a trade, a high pick or a late cut signing of a decently big named player to fill the role of our #2 WR.

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    • We already have a Flashy WR, his name is Terrell Owens. In case you weren't sure, of course.

      I bet he'll reach into the free agent pool and grab a good number two, but I wouldn't look for us to make a big splash and grab a top tier WR. We haven't the money to grab a top tier WR and a CB. We'll obviously reach for a corner.

      Just a bit of logic to all this crazy talk
      Originally posted by Patriots-Lions
      Dave is right
      Originally posted by duckseason
      Brady is 'just' the Queen on Belichick's chess board.

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      • Burnett needs to be moved into the starting position and play the nickel.

        If D-ware can be on the field taking LT's head on play after play for the entire game, then Burnett can man the ILB spot in all packages.

        If he needs to take a few snaps off than so be it. But we have guys on the team who only take 5-7 snaps off on defense. Ware hardly takes off any. There is no excuse for him not to be starting.

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        • Originally posted by Jdallas View Post
          If Spears leaves one way or another I don't think Hatcher can handle the whole load as DE by himself. To me he just doesn't seem built to handle the run in a 3-4, but a rotation of Ratliff and Hatcher would be perfect and they can both contribute on the nickel as well.

          AmI the only one who doesn't think we should use a 1st on a RB? Think about it, we have a Pro Bowler who should probably be a starter next year. Why spend so much on a backup player when the past has shown that starting quality RBs are often found outside the 1st round. Unless there is an elite player, I'm against drafting a starting RB in the 1st round. I find it very difficult to understand why anybody would want to spend a 1st round pick on a backup RB.

          I would love to see Rogers come here. He still showed flashes of dominance in the Lions games I saw this year. I'm not sure how much you would have to give up for him, but I would like to take a look at him.

          While I don't think I've ever been a huge Roy Williams supporter, I really don't want to see him back next year. He used to make up for his coverage liabilities by creating big plays, but he had no big plays this year and has seemed to regress in coverage. Without Roy we would have an almost perfect situation with Davis at SS and Hamlin at FS in the base and then move Hamlin to SS and Watkins to FS on the nickel.

          Finally, I would be surprised to see Ayodele starting next season. If Carpenter leaves he still has a chance since I'm not sure if Burnett could take all of the plays over the whole season, but Akin did not play as well this year as he did last year and I think this is the year Carpenter takes a turn. The thing that most don't understand about him is that in the style of defense he played in college he didn't have to worry about attacking blockers and getting around linemen. He certainly has the athletic ability to do that and has proven he can learn with his vast special teams improvement since last season.
          Hmm... that's interesting. I never gave thought to Hatcher's weakness in run support. Didn't even realize he had one. I haven't picked that up, but I also dunno if we really have seen enough of him to make that case yet.

          No, you're aren't the only who doesn't want to spend a first rounder on a RB. I don't recall anybody here who actually does, though there might be some.

          Shaun Rogers racked up 7 sacks, and INT for a TD, a few fumble recoveries, etc etc last year. Detroit apparently doesn't want that back. I talked to Scott about it and he thinks Detroit could only get a mid round pick for him. I'm all for that... thus the reason I brought it up. ;)

          Akin Ayodele was not on the team last year. ...at least I didn't see him. For some odd reason, his name still shows up on the active team roster. I'm befuddled. LOL! Seriously, we need to cut him. He's owed.... 2008: $2.5 million, 2009: $2.75 million, 2010: $3.25 million, 2011: Free Agent. That's too much for the amount of contribution he provides. We need to address ILB in the draft... and the guy I want is Vanderbilt's Goff.

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          • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
            Hmm... that's interesting. I never gave thought to Hatcher's weakness in run support. Didn't even realize he had one. I haven't picked that up, but I also dunno if we really have seen enough of him to make that case yet.

            No, you're aren't the only who doesn't want to spend a first rounder on a RB. I don't recall anybody here who actually does, though there might be some.

            Shaun Rogers racked up 7 sacks, and INT for a TD, a few fumble recoveries, etc etc last year. Detroit apparently doesn't want that back. I talked to Scott about it and he thinks Detroit could only get a mid round pick for him. I'm all for that... thus the reason I brought it up. ;)

            Akin Ayodele was not on the team last year. ...at least I didn't see him. For some odd reason, his name still shows up on the active team roster. I'm befuddled. LOL! Seriously, we need to cut him. He's owed.... 2008: $2.5 million, 2009: $2.75 million, 2010: $3.25 million, 2011: Free Agent. That's too much for the amount of contribution he provides. We need to address ILB in the draft... and the guy I want is Vanderbilt's Goff.
            Ayodele is another guy who can be good in a 4-3, but just isn't cut out for this defense.

            Now that I think about it, it's amazing that we were 13-3 with so many liabilities/Non-contributors on defense.

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            • Originally posted by Dave View Post
              We already have a Flashy WR, his name is Terrell Owens. In case you weren't sure, of course.

              I bet he'll reach into the free agent pool and grab a good number two, but I wouldn't look for us to make a big splash and grab a top tier WR. We haven't the money to grab a top tier WR and a CB. We'll obviously reach for a corner.

              Just a bit of logic to all this crazy talk
              This is actually what I said.... "Knowing Jerry and they way he likes to play football, I wouldn't expect anything less than another flashy name to be slated in playing opposite of TO in 2008."

              So yeah, I know we have TO. Have you seen the FA pool? There are no good #2's out there.

              Johnson, Bryant (ARZ)
              Darling, Devard (BLT)
              Aiken, Sam (BUF)
              Carter, Drew (CAR)
              Colbert, Keary (CAR)
              Chatman, Antonio (CIN)
              Carter, Tim (CLV)
              Walters, Troy (DET)
              Davis, Andre (HST)
              Moorehead, Aaron (IND)
              Wilford, Ernest (JAX)
              Drummond, Eddie (KC)
              Parker, Samie (KC)
              Ferguson, Robert (MIN)
              Brown, Troy (NE)
              Gaffney, Jabar (NE)
              Copper, Terrance (NO)
              Henderson, Devery (NO)
              Patten, David (NO)
              Dwight, Tim (OAK)
              Hackett, D.J. (SEA)
              Gilmore, Bryan (SF)
              Lewis, Michael (SF)
              Jones, Mark (TB)
              Gage, Justin (TEN)
              Moulds, Eric (TEN)
              Caldwell, Reche (WAS)
              McCardell, Keenan (WAS)

              So how will we get a top tier WR? To repeat myself... "I expect a trade, a high pick or a late cut signing (after June cuts) of a decently big named player to fill the role of our #2 WR."

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              • Originally posted by Burns336 View Post
                Ayodele is another guy who can be good in a 4-3, but just isn't cut out for this defense.

                Now that I think about it, it's amazing that we were 13-3 with so many liabilities/Non-contributors on defense.
                It's because we are so talented. Seriously. People always rip me for being a homer when I talk about how much talent the cowboys have, but it's true. We made so many plays and won a few games based on talent and individual skills alone. It still shocks we that we aren't still playing, but we will be this time next season.

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                • On that list, I would only want Sammie Parker (whenever I watch a chiefs game he makes a sick catch), and DJ Hackett (consistant, solid WR).

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                  • Originally posted by Achilles33 View Post
                    On that list, I would only want Sammie Parker (whenever I watch a chiefs game he makes a sick catch), and DJ Hackett (consistant, solid WR).
                    Who would you drop in place of those guys?

                    I'd rather bank on the potential of young guys instead of bringing in a #3 at best receiver.

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                    • Stallworth could be let go right? Id take him, not for the future but he is affordable and fits a need right now...But the list isnt that appealing, so if no trade is worked out we could be using pick 22 on a wr and a db with the latter...not sure, I know its nice to develop talent but you cant expect to fill every position by young guys who have shown promise, its nice that Austin is really fast and still learning, but does that mean he had cemented a place on the team? I dont see what he's done at wr past run past the safeties, its not hard to get a wr that can run past the safeties, Austin cant catch...If he cant catch now, I dont see how that is going to get so much better...I remember when Crayton first started getting playing time he caught most everything even when he wasnt running the best routes, Hurd catches damn near everything, Austin is simply too one dimensional...If we draft a CB that can kick return Austin is probably going to get cut, especially if we bring a wr in





                      Originally posted by Scott Wright
                      I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                      • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                        This is actually what I said.... "Knowing Jerry and they way he likes to play football, I wouldn't expect anything less than another flashy name to be slated in playing opposite of TO in 2008."

                        So yeah, I know we have TO. Have you seen the FA pool? There are no good #2's out there.

                        Johnson, Bryant (ARZ)
                        Darling, Devard (BLT)
                        Aiken, Sam (BUF)
                        Carter, Drew (CAR)
                        Colbert, Keary (CAR)
                        Chatman, Antonio (CIN)
                        Carter, Tim (CLV)
                        Walters, Troy (DET)
                        Davis, Andre (HST)
                        Moorehead, Aaron (IND)
                        Wilford, Ernest (JAX)
                        Drummond, Eddie (KC)
                        Parker, Samie (KC)
                        Ferguson, Robert (MIN)
                        Brown, Troy (NE)
                        Gaffney, Jabar (NE)
                        Copper, Terrance (NO)
                        Henderson, Devery (NO)
                        Patten, David (NO)
                        Dwight, Tim (OAK)
                        Hackett, D.J. (SEA)
                        Gilmore, Bryan (SF)
                        Lewis, Michael (SF)
                        Jones, Mark (TB)
                        Gage, Justin (TEN)
                        Moulds, Eric (TEN)
                        Caldwell, Reche (WAS)
                        McCardell, Keenan (WAS)

                        So how will we get a top tier WR? To repeat myself... "I expect a trade, a high pick or a late cut signing (after June cuts) of a decently big named player to fill the role of our #2 WR."
                        You don't have Bernard Berrian on that list. Won't he be an UFA? Now he can stretch a field. Also, don't forget Donte Stallworth. I'm betting he'll be a cap casualty for NE.

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                        • Originally posted by Burns336 View Post
                          Burnett needs to be moved into the starting position and play the nickel.

                          If D-ware can be on the field taking LT's head on play after play for the entire game, then Burnett can man the ILB spot in all packages.

                          If he needs to take a few snaps off than so be it. But we have guys on the team who only take 5-7 snaps off on defense. Ware hardly takes off any. There is no excuse for him not to be starting.
                          I don't think that Ware should be playing every snap either. I am a huge believer in rotating guys on defense, it's just too hard to play at such a high level for every snap. Also, Ware is quite a bit bigger than Burnett and that's why he can handle to load better.

                          Desings by D-Unit

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                          • Originally posted by Jdallas View Post
                            I don't think that Ware should be playing every snap either. I am a huge believer in rotating guys on defense, it's just too hard to play at such a high level for every snap. Also, Ware is quite a bit bigger than Burnett and that's why he can handle to load better.
                            It should be easier for Burnett than Ware to play an entire game. Bullrushing and wrestling with a LT expends more energy than shooting gaps and dropping into a zone.

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                            • Terry Glenn will need microfracture surgery on his knee.

                              It's becoming more and more unlikely that the Cowboys will retain Glenn at his current $1.74 million price tag. When Jerry Jones was asked about Glenn's future with Dallas, he said he would discuss it with him soon, and left it at that. Glenn's career is most likely over, but there's a chance the Cowboys could give him a small contract to rehab with them. Jan. 22 - 1:36 pm et

                              via dallas morning news...so I highly doubt we rely on him, even if he were to come back how many games could we expect, its the end for him, sounds more and more like wr is going to be highly sought after, without Glenn back I cant imagine we dont draft one high or bring somebody in





                              Originally posted by Scott Wright
                              I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                              • Any chance Sam Hurd could compete for the #2 or #3 spot?

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