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  • Originally posted by Ward
    Originally posted by Staubach12
    Originally posted by The Legend
    Originally posted by Ward
    Why do we need this "pure cover" guy at FS? Certainly you guys remember Darren Woodson, the converted linebacker? You don't need to be a converted corner to play free safety in the league, you need to be smart and make good decisions which is how Woodson made it work for himself. Landry is the better prospect in every way over Nelson, but maybe he'll run a slower 40. Don't be fooled. Landry has a body of work, whereas I've only heard of Nelson starting in the 2nd half of THIS SEASON. Buyer beware.
    but i dont think Landry will not be there for you guys and dont for get Michael Griffin is a very good solid tackler like roy ... how many safetys do you know that in collage can rack up 2 years in a row with 100+ tackles
    But we don't need a guy like Roy! We need a guy to compliment Roy.
    He's not like Roy, look beyond the physical stats and actually watch Landry play. He can cover better than just about anyone in the college game currently. He's bigger than Nelson, so? Landry is a ballhawk wether you guys want to admit it or not.

    Here's an example of Landry's speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R211e6JdVew
    I was talking about Griffeth. Landry's my guy if we go FS in round 1.

    BoneKrusher

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    • Originally posted by D-Unit
      Originally posted by Ward
      Why do we need this "pure cover" guy at FS? Certainly you guys remember Darren Woodson, the converted linebacker? You don't need to be a converted corner to play free safety in the league, you need to be smart and make good decisions which is how Woodson made it work for himself. Landry is the better prospect in every way over Nelson, but maybe he'll run a slower 40. Don't be fooled. Landry has a body of work, whereas I've only heard of Nelson starting in the 2nd half of THIS SEASON. Buyer beware.
      Don't be mislead only because you've only heard about him this year. He's a JC transfer and he has another year of eligibilty. He's faced top notch competition and has excelled this year. You can't deny the fact that he's a gamebreaker.

      Why do we need a "pure cover" guy at FS? I can't believe I'm hearing these words. haha. How many times have we gotten beat deep this year and last year and the year before that??? Let's not get confused here. Nelson is not only a pure cover safety. He's simply the best one, imo.

      Sounds like his name is picking up speed and may not be there late in the first anymore... but Landry for sure will not be there. ...and Landry is not worth trading up for.

      ...and Woodson could play FS because like you said... he had the smarts to play it. Those smarts came after years and years of veteran experience. He was a SS before we got Roy. You don't just draft a guy and expect him to have the smarts of a Darren Woodson to help subsidize his physically inept coverage skills.

      That said, hell I'd be stoked if we got Landry. I just don't see the possibility of grabbing him without trading up. ...and he's not worth trading up for.

      If we talk about hoping to get Landry, we might as well begin hopes of drafting Calvin Johnson too.
      :roll: I've been a draft nerd at this site for a couple of years and Reggie Nelson has never been mentioned prior to this fall. I'm not the only one. He's faced the same level of competition as Landry, and has done well - this season.

      We need someone who can cover well at this point to get a significant upgrade to our defense. We don't need Ed Reed. We need a young Brian Dawkins.

      Personally I think Scott overrates safeties with the exception of Sean Taylor. Remember thinking Brodney Pool would be gone before we got to take him? Then he went in the 2nd to Cleveland because he wasn't really that hot of a prospect. Landry or Nelson, possible both will be there. The real question is: which one is a Parcells type player?

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      • Originally posted by Ward
        He's not like Roy, look beyond the physical stats and actually watch Landry play. He can cover better than just about anyone in the college game currently. He's bigger than Nelson, so? Landry is a ballhawk wether you guys want to admit it or not.

        Here's an example of Landry's speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R211e6JdVew
        Just saw that vid. Impressive... but if you think Nelson isn't an intimidator in his own right and can't deliver hits, you'd be dead wrong.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMGyqZ-TBU

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRW3JFaMN_A

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3o2U...elated&search=

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        • I've been a draft nerd at this site for a couple of years and Reggie Nelson has never been mentioned prior to this fall.
          People hit strides at different periods. Happens all the time. Not many people talked about players like Dunta Robinson prior to the season he went into the draft.

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          • Originally posted by D-Unit
            Originally posted by Ward
            He's not like Roy, look beyond the physical stats and actually watch Landry play. He can cover better than just about anyone in the college game currently. He's bigger than Nelson, so? Landry is a ballhawk wether you guys want to admit it or not.

            Here's an example of Landry's speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R211e6JdVew
            Just saw that vid. Impressive... but if you think Nelson isn't an intimidator in his own right and can't deliver hits, you'd be dead wrong.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMGyqZ-TBU

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRW3JFaMN_A

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3o2U...elated&search=
            I've never said an ill word about Nelson other than that he lacks the experience of Landry. Landry is a 4 year starter at free safety in the SEC.

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit
              Originally posted by Staubach12
              I agree with thule, we need a WR, but I'd like Blalock in the 1st, and get a WR somewhere later. I like Paul Williams or Chansi Stuckey in the 2nd. Another two guys I like that aren't as fast are Bowe and Steve Smith. Some guys in later rounds that are kind of in the middle as far as speed goes that I like are Craig Davis and Chris Davis. In late rounds, I like Ryan Moore.
              Those guys are .... blah. Serviceable at the most. I am a fan of Steve Smith though. Smart player with great hands. Always seems to find the soft zone coverage holes. Not an NFL #1 though.
              I see Bowe as a guy who can be a #1 in time. And I think his speed is a bit underrated. We'll see come Combine time.

              BoneKrusher

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              • Originally posted by Jughead10
                I've been a draft nerd at this site for a couple of years and Reggie Nelson has never been mentioned prior to this fall.
                People hit strides at different periods. Happens all the time. Not many people talked about players like Dunta Robinson prior to the season he went into the draft.
                A lot of it has to do with the fact that he was playing in Junior College. If he wasn't tearing it up there, he wouldn't be starting at Florida. Being in JC doesn't mean you aren't an NFL caliber prospect.

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                • Actually, now that I think about it.

                  Reggie Nelson = Bob Sanders
                  Landry = Sean Taylor

                  Landry is the guy I want at SS, but not at FS. I think Nelson is just a better FS.

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                  • Originally posted by Ward
                    Originally posted by D-Unit
                    Originally posted by Ward
                    He's not like Roy, look beyond the physical stats and actually watch Landry play. He can cover better than just about anyone in the college game currently. He's bigger than Nelson, so? Landry is a ballhawk wether you guys want to admit it or not.

                    Here's an example of Landry's speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R211e6JdVew
                    Just saw that vid. Impressive... but if you think Nelson isn't an intimidator in his own right and can't deliver hits, you'd be dead wrong.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMGyqZ-TBU

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRW3JFaMN_A

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3o2U...elated&search=
                    I've never said an ill word about Nelson other than that he lacks the experience of Landry. Landry is a 4 year starter at free safety in the SEC.
                    Yeah, but Landry won't last past 20. Do you think we should trade up for him?

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                    • Originally posted by D-Unit
                      Yeah, but Landry won't last past 20. Do you think we should trade up for him?
                      I disagree that he won't last past 20, he will. But no, he wouldn't be worth trading up for.

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                      • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                        Actually, now that I think about it.

                        Reggie Nelson = Bob Sanders
                        Landry = Sean Taylor

                        Landry is the guy I want at SS, but not at FS. I think Nelson is just a better FS.
                        Bob Sanders isn't comparison I'd make. Sanders is a lot shorter at 5'8". Nelson is listed at 6'1" which means he's probably 6'0".

                        Nelson to me plays more similarly to someone like Charles Tillman or Ken Hamlin.

                        Landry is like Darren Sharper.

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                        • Originally posted by Ward
                          Originally posted by D-Unit
                          Yeah, but Landry won't last past 20. Do you think we should trade up for him?
                          I disagree that he won't last past 20, he will. But no, he wouldn't be worth trading up for.
                          You could be right in the end... and Nelson could be the one that doesn't make it past 20.

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                          • Originally posted by D-Unit
                            Originally posted by Ward
                            Originally posted by D-Unit
                            Yeah, but Landry won't last past 20. Do you think we should trade up for him?
                            I disagree that he won't last past 20, he will. But no, he wouldn't be worth trading up for.
                            You could be right in the end... and Nelson could be the one that doesn't make it past 20.
                            This end of the year is key to how early we address FS...hopefully Watkins fills in and we can use our first somewhere else.

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                            • It looks like going to be a good game. Giants have 3 (Umenyiora, Short, Madison back from injuries) or even Michael Strahan is a maybe for the Sunday game.

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                              • Suisham is a traitor. I actually liked him...

                                BoneKrusher

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