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  • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
    Meh, the tuck rule is a bogus rule anyway. They never enforce it, it was arguably one of the worst calls in playoff history, no one ever calls the tuck rule. I personally feel it was a fumble, I can't say for 100% because I need to see a replay, but I saw no indication the first time how it would not be a fumble.

    Did anyone else notice TO pull a Plaxico on Romo's 2nd INT? I know it was way overthrown, but he couldve tried to tackle Demps or something, he just stopped and put his hands down.
    Btw, that is not true, either. Last year in a game against Washington, Jake Plummer made a play in which the ball was dropped and recovered in the endzone by his own lineman for a safety, in a game that Washington lost narrowly. It was reviewed and ruled and incomplete pass by virtue of the tuck rule. It could be argued that it cost the Skins the game.

    Also, Mike Perriera has stated that it is usually a rule that comes into play 8 to 12 times a season, and it regularly called by his officials. I, personally, have only seen it called 3 times in the last two years. But it is actually used on a mandatory basis.
    Originally posted by 21ST
    He was protecting his self
    Originally posted by tjsunstein
    From what? His leg?
    Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
    That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
    "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

    DeMarcus Ware

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    • Any concerns over TO's drops this year? He couldve kept some key drives going in that game had he not dropped the ball. That could come back and haunt you guys in a key moment in the playoffs if he doesn't work on that.

      And Id just like to state, with all the big names on your defense, like Ware, Roy, James etc, to me the best player on that defense is clearly Terrance Newman. I know he doesn't cover one player the entire game, but whoever he is covering at any given moment is covered, all game. He's a top 3 corner in my book, 3rd to only Champ and McCallister.

      One thing he does need to work on is breaking on the ball and creating turnovers. In fact, the entire Dallas secondary is more of a "cover the guy" kind of secondary, meaning they don't necessarily play the ball. I think thats why you see a lack of INTs out of this defense, even though they have a stellar secondary. If TNew can pick the ball like Champ, you could make a strong case for him being the 2nd best in the league.

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      • Without Newman, we are a terrible team. That's how much I respect his play. You are exactly right about our secondary. Roy is our interception specialist... that alone speaks volumes about their ability to create turnovers.

        Which is a big reason why... Reggie Nelson is my #1 player on my big board.

        My DC Big Board:
        1. Reggie Nelson - There are still Pat Watkins supporters...and I'm still in support of keeping him on the team. ...but Nelson is the answer.

        2. OT (BPA) - Don't tell me McQuistan is our future.

        3. Tank Tyler - A beastly lineman. Some wonder if he could play NT in the 3-4, but I think he could.

        4. Justin Blalock - Been a favorite for a long time... but there are other ways to fill OG.

        5. Michael Griffin - Love what he brings to the table.

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        • Originally posted by D-Unit
          Without Newman, we are a terrible team. That's how much I respect his play. You are exactly right about our secondary. Roy is our interception specialist... that alone speaks volumes about their ability to create turnovers.

          Which is a big reason why... Reggie Nelson is my #1 player on my big board.

          My DC Big Board:
          1. Reggie Nelson - There are still Pat Watkins supporters...and I'm still in support of keeping him on the team. ...but Nelson is the answer.

          2. OT (BPA) - Don't tell me McQuistan is our future.

          3. Tank Tyler - A beastly lineman. Some wonder if he could play NT in the 3-4, but I think he could.

          4. Justin Blalock - Been a favorite for a long time... but there are other ways to fill OG.

          5. Michael Griffin - Love what he brings to the table.
          I agree with you on Newman. A big part of me wishes Balaskonis was still here so I could give him props for being all about him this past offseason. I told him that he was overrating Newman, but the kid is the real deal.

          Your draft...I think no matter what, I don't care who falls, you have to take the BA OL. You have enough 1st round talent on the D, and you can find a coverage safety in round 2 or 3.
          Originally posted by Paul
          Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
          Originally posted by Vikes99ej
          These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
          MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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          • Originally posted by D-Unit
            Without Newman, we are a terrible team. That's how much I respect his play. You are exactly right about our secondary. Roy is our interception specialist... that alone speaks volumes about their ability to create turnovers.

            Which is a big reason why... Reggie Nelson is my #1 player on my big board.

            My DC Big Board:
            1. Reggie Nelson - There are still Pat Watkins supporters...and I'm still in support of keeping him on the team. ...but Nelson is the answer.

            2. OT (BPA) - Don't tell me McQuistan is our future.

            3. Tank Tyler - A beastly lineman. Some wonder if he could play NT in the 3-4, but I think he could.

            4. Justin Blalock - Been a favorite for a long time... but there are other ways to fill OG.

            5. Michael Griffin - Love what he brings to the table.
            Have you watched Michael Johnson outta arizona?

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            • as far as TO's drops go im not to worried, although i am confused. Sometimes romo will throw a bullet and hes got no problem snagging it, most of the drops come on regularly throw balls and wide open catches. I dont know if he is thinking about the run after catch and not concentrating or if he is thinking about a td celebration or what. he just needs to focus and it will be fine. all i can say is that he does things for this team that keyshawn, and for that matter, just about everyone outside the top 10 in the league couldnt do.

              I wish newman was a little more aggressive but at the same time i see guys like arron glenn who go for the pick and sometimes it backfires. for example, the infamous santana moss game a year ago -- glenn could have batted one of the td's down but he went for the pick and didnt get it. Or you guys going for the pick on romo instead of batting that ball to crayton down.

              Ive noticed one of Newmans picks got lost in the stats this year as well. Stats show that he has 1 pick returned for 12 yards but i know he picked off eli's overthrow to plax in the first game in the endzone for a touchback and i dont think its recorded.

              As far as the mbIII/ jj debated, i think JJ has changed his style, he almost does the "jamal lewis" baby steps before he gets going and i think its really messing him up. He used to run alot harder in the sense that he would cut more and try to keep going after first contact and i think his prior injuries have resulted in him going down easy as if hes trying to avoid a third injury. If he got one more injury, he would be labled as an injury prone back for sure, but at the same time he needs to start running like he used to -- the system hasnt changed but he has. If he can return to his old form, i think MBIII stays as the "back-up" even though playing time is about even right now.

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              • Originally posted by thule
                Originally posted by Burns336
                alright dude, see if you can find it here....
                http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...26id%3d2679672

                headline reads "Hall, Gamble don't deserve hype" so im assuming it breaks them down
                Hall is giving up 10.8 yard per attempt. He has also given up a 40+ yard pass in 4 of his last 8 games.

                Gamble is at 11 yards per attempt.
                very interesting, thanks for taking the time to look that up. Hall is overrated plain and simple -- but im sure you've seen the argument now that atlantas scheme is what is getting him burnt.... :roll:

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                • Originally posted by thule
                  Originally posted by D-Unit
                  Without Newman, we are a terrible team. That's how much I respect his play. You are exactly right about our secondary. Roy is our interception specialist... that alone speaks volumes about their ability to create turnovers.

                  Which is a big reason why... Reggie Nelson is my #1 player on my big board.

                  My DC Big Board:
                  1. Reggie Nelson - There are still Pat Watkins supporters...and I'm still in support of keeping him on the team. ...but Nelson is the answer.

                  2. OT (BPA) - Don't tell me McQuistan is our future.

                  3. Tank Tyler - A beastly lineman. Some wonder if he could play NT in the 3-4, but I think he could.

                  4. Justin Blalock - Been a favorite for a long time... but there are other ways to fill OG.

                  5. Michael Griffin - Love what he brings to the table.
                  Have you watched Michael Johnson outta arizona?
                  No, but Mel Kiper is trying his darndest to get some attention on him.

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                  • Originally posted by D-Unit
                    Originally posted by thule
                    Originally posted by D-Unit
                    Without Newman, we are a terrible team. That's how much I respect his play. You are exactly right about our secondary. Roy is our interception specialist... that alone speaks volumes about their ability to create turnovers.

                    Which is a big reason why... Reggie Nelson is my #1 player on my big board.

                    My DC Big Board:
                    1. Reggie Nelson - There are still Pat Watkins supporters...and I'm still in support of keeping him on the team. ...but Nelson is the answer.

                    2. OT (BPA) - Don't tell me McQuistan is our future.

                    3. Tank Tyler - A beastly lineman. Some wonder if he could play NT in the 3-4, but I think he could.

                    4. Justin Blalock - Been a favorite for a long time... but there are other ways to fill OG.

                    5. Michael Griffin - Love what he brings to the table.
                    Have you watched Michael Johnson outta arizona?
                    No, but Mel Kiper is trying his darndest to get some attention on him.
                    He sorta turned me on to him. If he runs as good as kiper says...I think he would be a good option.

                    But really 3 Safeties could go before we pick. Landy/Nelson/Griffin I don't think it happens but good to keep our eyes open for something else. I don't think parcells goes west coast to often.

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                    • My Big Board:

                      1. OG - Justin Blalock - if he gets taken early we need to go NT or skill
                      2. CB - Marcus McCauley - would definetly be a quick contributor
                      3. S - Reggie Nelson - Nelson has natural skills that noone can be taught
                      4. NT - Tank Tyler - can sure up our d-line and give us youth across the board
                      5. WR - Sidney Rice - perfect blend of size and speed

                      Im not sold on tossing JJ out just yet. I think this is just a hot topic at the time, because of the fact that Barber is getting all the press. I like having the 2 to switch the running styles and keeping defenders guessing. I'd like to see us grab a QB late to add te depth we need. On day one I'd see us grab at least one skill and maybe a NT. Im looking for them to grab an OL from FA and an OL on day-one of the draft. If it doesnt look like a situation where we are gonna get a NT we should go back to the skill spots.

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                      • You guys can't have Reggie Nelson! We need him more! :evil: :evil:





                        :(

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                        • Originally posted by bigmac076
                          My Big Board:

                          1. OG - Justin Blalock - if he gets taken early we need to go NT or skill
                          2. CB - Marcus McCauley - would definetly be a quick contributor
                          3. S - Reggie Nelson - Nelson has natural skills that noone can be taught
                          4. NT - Tank Tyler - can sure up our d-line and give us youth across the board
                          5. WR - Sidney Rice - perfect blend of size and speed

                          Im not sold on tossing JJ out just yet. I think this is just a hot topic at the time, because of the fact that Barber is getting all the press. I like having the 2 to switch the running styles and keeping defenders guessing. I'd like to see us grab a QB late to add te depth we need. On day one I'd see us grab at least one skill and maybe a NT. Im looking for them to grab an OL from FA and an OL on day-one of the draft. If it doesnt look like a situation where we are gonna get a NT we should go back to the skill spots.
                          Have you seen McCauley play? Or are you basing this off "experts" opinions? Just asking.

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                          • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                            Come on guys, let's show some more respect for the owner of the site.

                            How does everyone here feel about MBIII vs JJ? I personally feel that MBIII fits your system better.
                            I can only assume this was directed at me but I'm a little confused. How was that disrespectful to Scott? I was just voicing a dissenting opinion in what I believe was a respectful manner.

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                            • Originally posted by dpl85
                              Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                              Come on guys, let's show some more respect for the owner of the site.

                              How does everyone here feel about MBIII vs JJ? I personally feel that MBIII fits your system better.
                              I can only assume this was directed at me but I'm a little confused. How was that disrespectful to Scott? I was just voicing a dissenting opinion in what I believe was a respectful manner.
                              I just think Scott's assessment of Columbo is incorrect.


                              "You know what charm is: a way of getting the answer yes without having asked any clear question."
                              Albert Camus

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                              • Originally posted by dpl85
                                Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                                Come on guys, let's show some more respect for the owner of the site.

                                How does everyone here feel about MBIII vs JJ? I personally feel that MBIII fits your system better.
                                I can only assume this was directed at me but I'm a little confused. How was that disrespectful to Scott? I was just voicing a dissenting opinion in what I believe was a respectful manner.
                                I don't think it was you. I couldve sworn I read somewhere someone call him an idiot or something. Maybe I read something wrong.

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