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  • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
    Well, let me just tell you that a lot of the Dallas fans here thought we were done after the first lost to the Giants. I mean, they thought we were completely done. The fact that we still have a strong chance at the playoffs is almost a bad thing for them because it only prolongs the pain that they are expecting.

    I've been saying for a long time that 10 wins was possible for this team and that 10 wins would get us in. Once you're in, anything can happen and I fully believe that. In fact, battling your way in is my preferred way for this team. We coasted last year to a 12-4 record and totally flopped in the playoffs. This year, fighting for it only makes us that much more prepared for the playoffs imo. This is the way I wanted it. Glad this team has had so much pressure to win every week.
    yea my point is just that anything can happen and i know before the ravens/cowboys game i was kind of giving it to the boys but i never completly gave up on my team and thats what it sounded like to me and thats something a true fan never does. but i agree theres nothing like a hard fought season
    Originally posted by SunTzu_22
    Just let it go RWO.
    We as Ravens fans are clearly scum of the earth, and should just be happy that these great people, who cheer for nothing than the finest, morally impeccable players, playing on the finest, most morally impeccable teams, will grace us with their presence, and words of wisdom.

    John Wall
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

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    • Originally posted by Go Cowboys View Post
      It's sad but true, I have been a diehard cowboys fan since I was born and I stuck with it through the 3 straight 5-11 seasons, and I will continue to live and die cowboys. But that doesn't mean I am not going to be realistic.

      Realistically look at our QB (As an example of why we shouldn't win many games in the playoffs)

      I am not going to say he isn't a big game QB, but I am going to say he isn't a Pocket Passer at all. If he is in the pocket and has all day he gets happy feet (I have played QB and coached it) he has all day to throw, but he has to move out of the pocket before he throws other wise he sails it high or to the right or left. When he is in the pocket and throws he sails it because he steps to the side constantly.

      Now let's look at Brett Farve or if you don't want to look at one of the best QB's ever then realize Romo isn't one of them if you can't compare them. Romo drops back, a guy rushes towards him, Romo has his front foot step to the side, or at an angle to the side, not straight forward. Farve on the other hand 90% of the time steps forward to get everything he can on the ball.

      Now for those of you who haven't played QB or haven't paid that much attention, the first thing you are taught as a QB is to step into your throw, much like a baseball player, or a basketball player in a pass. If you don't step straight forward, the ball loses zip and accuracy. Romo does this consistently (I will look for photos if I can) thus losing zip and accuracy. Now for some reason, no one has corrected this, likely because it is his style of throwing. But with that he is going to consistently have less zip on the ball than a Joe Flacco type guy who steps into every throw.

      I am ready for the hate that I am likely to receive, because every cowboys fan I know trys to defend Romo. I think he is a great QB, but he is going to have many mistakes when throwing passes downfield or over the middle because he does not step towards them. To the side he steps towards already, but forward he does not.

      With that said.

      Go Cowboys
      I really don't understand how people can claim things to be "realistic". What is so predictable about the NFL these days anyways??? As far as I know, trying to put logic on any situation is a tough way to predict the future.

      As far as Romo goes, he's not your traditional pocket passer. He's got mobility. He's a gunslinger. He's good at thinking on the fly. Yes, he has mechanical flaws in his game... at the same time, he buys time in the pocket with his mobility. With the good, comes the bad. He's a good QB in our scheme, he's a great QB in the WCO.

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      • Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post
        The only thing the Redskins victory does for us is to potentially cause a letdown in week 17 for the Eagles. Now, even if they win, they likely won't make the playoffs. The Bucs will have to lose to the Raiders (which isn't going to happen), the Bears will have to lose one of two games, and the Vikings will have to lose to the Giants (who will have nothing to play for). If the game is flexed into the Sunday night game, which it should be, then Philly will likely know that they have been eliminated by game time.


        Still, Dallas is dead man walking right now. This team isn't going anywhere this year, and even if we win a game or two, there is going to have to be some significant changes made if we want to compete for a title next season. Wade Phillips and his coaching staff will continue to destroy any hope we have as long as they remain with the team. Its time for a shakeup, guys. Don't get your hopes up.


        As far as the bolded, none of that even matters...We hold the last wildcard spot, we win and were in...All the worrying about other teams is pointless, win and were in, and while your throwing us under the bus Philly is just as much of a under achiever as anyone.


        We lost to a great Baltimore team with one of the top D's this year, Philly had a chance to get the inside track for the playoffs and lost to a Redskin team who had lost 3 straight games...You also realize that we would be looking at a 1st rd matchup with Arizona or Minnesota 1st rd in a dome? Why would either of those teams scare you?


        I like our chances to win a playoff game and once we get that monkey off our back and get some confidence there is no telling how far we can go.





        Originally posted by Scott Wright
        I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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        • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
          I really don't understand how people can claim things to be "realistic". What is so predictable about the NFL these days anyways??? As far as I know, trying to put logic on any situation is a tough way to predict the future.

          As far as Romo goes, he's not your traditional pocket passer. He's got mobility. He's a gunslinger. He's good at thinking on the fly. Yes, he has mechanical flaws in his game... at the same time, he buys time in the pocket with his mobility. With the good, comes the bad. He's a good QB in our scheme, he's a great QB in the WCO.
          lol i wish the ravens had romo lol (EVEN THOUGH I LOVE FLACCO)
          Originally posted by SunTzu_22
          Just let it go RWO.
          We as Ravens fans are clearly scum of the earth, and should just be happy that these great people, who cheer for nothing than the finest, morally impeccable players, playing on the finest, most morally impeccable teams, will grace us with their presence, and words of wisdom.

          John Wall
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

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          • Originally posted by Go Cowboys View Post
            I see most of the heartbreak coming from the constant losses in Playoff games. I feel like I must be missing one, but when was the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game?

            Other than that every fan wants to win every game, that is not realistic, but every fan would like their team to improve. We won the division and had HFADV last year, but we lost again. The Year before we lost round 1. So this year we as fans were looking for a favorable matchup to win a game in the playoffs. Many also wouldn't have minded a bye. The Giants played good ball this year so that was likely going to be hard to do. But with that said many are going to be pessimistic when we lose to both the Steelers and Ravens when those were Playoff like games. If we win one of those games the boo birds and downtroden fans become much happier because they feel like the Cowboys might be able to win it all or a playoff game. But we have struggled agaisnt competition in the eyes of many. Yes, we beat the Giants, but many overlook that and just see the we struggle beating the teams in other conferences and divisions.
            No matter where the heartbreak comes from, it's unavoidable. Even if we won the SB, guys next year would be talking heartbreak again. Who cares if we didn't repeat as NFC East Champs... we still have a chance to improve.

            I think on the field we have improved, but our record may not show it. Our defense is improved, no question. Our offense hasn't had the same success, but our personnel has improved imo. Losing Felix Jones was a huge set back to our offensive let down. But getting him back next year and adding more in the draft or FA will only seem like that much bigger of a boost.

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            • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
              I really don't understand how people can claim things to be "realistic". What is so predictable about the NFL these days anyways??? As far as I know, trying to put logic on any situation is a tough way to predict the future.

              As far as Romo goes, he's not your traditional pocket passer. He's got mobility. He's a gunslinger. He's good at thinking on the fly. Yes, he has mechanical flaws in his game... at the same time, he buys time in the pocket with his mobility. With the good, comes the bad. He's a good QB in our scheme, he's a great QB in the WCO.
              Realistic is a Bengals fan saying it would be great for us to win next week
              A lions fan to realize the odds of them winning a game this year are 1/100
              A Titans fan to be worried about their team and their inconsistency.

              As far as romo, ya he is mobile, and that is great about him, and I would take him over most QB's in the league. But at a certain point it looks like we are playing backyard football. We could take the lineman and run plays out, and say you have 11 guys we have 6 but you can't blitz until 5 apple or whatever. And it would look much like we have the past few games as Romo doesn't sit where he has blocking, thus bringing un needed pressure

              Thanks to bonekrusher for the sig

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              • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                No matter where the heartbreak comes from, it's unavoidable. Even if we won the SB, guys next year would be talking heartbreak again. Who cares if we didn't repeat as NFC East Champs... we still have a chance to improve.

                I think on the field we have improved, but our record may not show it. Our defense is improved, no question. Our offense hasn't had the same success, but our personnel has improved imo. Losing Felix Jones was a huge set back to our offensive let down. But getting him back next year and adding more in the draft or FA will only seem like that much bigger of a boost.
                do the cowboys have any big FA's this year who might not sign??????
                Originally posted by SunTzu_22
                Just let it go RWO.
                We as Ravens fans are clearly scum of the earth, and should just be happy that these great people, who cheer for nothing than the finest, morally impeccable players, playing on the finest, most morally impeccable teams, will grace us with their presence, and words of wisdom.

                John Wall
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

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                • Spare me the sermon. You won't find anyone more loyal or more invested in this team. I have been defending and excusing the short comings of this team for 3 solid years, even though the evidence against me was mounting.

                  Its time to stop now, and just face that there is some very serious, very severe, and very deep-rooted problems with this mixture of human beings that comprise what we call a "football team". That game was giving me flashbacks of the New Orleans game on Sunday Night Football back in 2006, when we were gaining steam, everyone was talking about us as being maybe the best team in the NFC, we looked unbeatable....and then we come out and just lay an egg.


                  Last year, we come out and play the other top NFC team, dominate them all game and give ourselves the advantage to win the #1 seed. Then we come out the following week and get pushed around by the hapless Lions, needing a last second come from behind drive to win the game by 1 on the last play. The next game, we have the opportunity to clinch the #1 seed with a win over the Eagles, and what do we do? Choke. We can't move the ball, we can't complete a pass, we can't do ****. Lose.

                  I could name a million examples of this team just not being able to answer the bell and seize the moment. The game against NY last year is the perfect example, obviously. We just don't have it. Its that simple.

                  We can make excuses for us all day long, but at the end of the day, what do we have to show for it? Nothing.

                  The biggest thing we need is a change in identity. This free-flying, pass happy, no-conscience style of play calling is killing us. Garrett should either be fired or relieved of play calling duties, preferably the latter (he's a really good coach, I believe, but his play calling and game planning has now proven itself to be inadequate). We need to have a shift in our mentality, and we need to have more toughness.

                  There is a group of players whose attitudes and/or mental abilities just won't lead to any success. Roy Williams (SS), Bradie James, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, Anthony Henry, Terrell Owens, Patrick Crayton and Corey Proctor all need to go, just because they aren't winners, they don't respond well to adversity, and they ruin our team chemistry.

                  But above and beyond it all, we need a Head Coach that our players can look to and have the utmost confidence that he will lead them through the tough times, and that his way will prove to be the right way. We don't have that right now.

                  We have the talent, we have the collection of players that can do it. But we don't have the brains for the heart.

                  Its not longer acceptable to just wait and see if maybe all we've seen is a collection of circumstances, or a series of coincedences. This team is not a team of winners. We have enough talent that we will continue to win games. If we don't get murdered by injuries, we likely win 11 or 12 games this year. But at key moments and key games, we look completely lost. That is not the profile of a champion.

                  If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got.


                  Things must change.



                  Now.
                  Originally posted by 21ST
                  He was protecting his self
                  Originally posted by tjsunstein
                  From what? His leg?
                  Originally posted by Paranoidmoonduck
                  That leg has had it out for him since day 1.
                  "We're the quiet guys, the guys before the storm. And then we hit you."

                  DeMarcus Ware

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                  • Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                    No matter where the heartbreak comes from, it's unavoidable. Even if we won the SB, guys next year would be talking heartbreak again. Who cares if we didn't repeat as NFC East Champs... we still have a chance to improve.

                    I think on the field we have improved, but our record may not show it. Our defense is improved, no question. Our offense hasn't had the same success, but our personnel has improved imo. Losing Felix Jones was a huge set back to our offensive let down. But getting him back next year and adding more in the draft or FA will only seem like that much bigger of a boost.
                    I agree, there is always going to be heartbreak, just was trying to point out why.

                    Jones was a setback, but I think Marion Barber getting hurt was even worse, because Tashard Choice has been a huge bright spot.

                    Thanks to bonekrusher for the sig

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                    • Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post
                      Spare me the sermon. You won't find anyone more loyal or more invested in this team. I have been defending and excusing the short comings of this team for 3 solid years, even though the evidence against me was mounting.

                      Its time to stop now, and just face that there is some very serious, very severe, and very deep-rooted problems with this mixture of human beings that comprise what we call a "football team". That game was giving me flashbacks of the New Orleans game on Sunday Night Football back in 2006, when we were gaining steam, everyone was talking about us as being maybe the best team in the NFC, we looked unbeatable....and then we come out and just lay an egg.


                      Last year, we come out and play the other top NFC team, dominate them all game and give ourselves the advantage to win the #1 seed. Then we come out the following week and get pushed around by the hapless Lions, needing a last second come from behind drive to win the game by 1 on the last play. The next game, we have the opportunity to clinch the #1 seed with a win over the Eagles, and what do we do? Choke. We can't move the ball, we can't complete a pass, we can't do ****. Lose.

                      I could name a million examples of this team just not being able to answer the bell and seize the moment. The game against NY last year is the perfect example, obviously. We just don't have it. Its that simple.

                      We can make excuses for us all day long, but at the end of the day, what do we have to show for it? Nothing.

                      The biggest thing we need is a change in identity. This free-flying, pass happy, no-conscience style of play calling is killing us. Garrett should either be fired or relieved of play calling duties, preferably the latter (he's a really good coach, I believe, but his play calling and game planning has now proven itself to be inadequate). We need to have a shift in our mentality, and we need to have more toughness.

                      There is a group of players whose attitudes and/or mental abilities just won't lead to any success. Roy Williams (SS), Bradie James, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, Anthony Henry, Terrell Owens, Patrick Crayton and Corey Proctor all need to go, just because they aren't winners, they don't respond well to adversity, and they ruin our team chemistry.

                      But above and beyond it all, we need a Head Coach that our players can look to and have the utmost confidence that he will lead them through the tough times, and that his way will prove to be the right way. We don't have that right now.

                      We have the talent, we have the collection of players that can do it. But we don't have the brains for the heart.

                      Its not longer acceptable to just wait and see if maybe all we've seen is a collection of circumstances, or a series of coincedences. This team is not a team of winners. We have enough talent that we will continue to win games. If we don't get murdered by injuries, we likely win 11 or 12 games this year. But at key moments and key games, we look completely lost. That is not the profile of a champion.

                      If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always got.


                      Things must change.



                      Now.


                      right i can see where you see things need to change the only thing that got me was you saying even if you make the playoffs there not going to do nothing anyway. so that made me like jeez if you make the playoffs anything can happen i mean i understand lately the boys dont have a good playoff record but anything can happen. and like i said it could be you being down after a tough game but it just seemed like your givign up on your team and me being a ravens fan had all time lows when i had to look forward to boller ever year.
                      Originally posted by SunTzu_22
                      Just let it go RWO.
                      We as Ravens fans are clearly scum of the earth, and should just be happy that these great people, who cheer for nothing than the finest, morally impeccable players, playing on the finest, most morally impeccable teams, will grace us with their presence, and words of wisdom.

                      John Wall
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

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                      • Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post

                        There is a group of players whose attitudes and/or mental abilities just won't lead to any success. Roy Williams (SS), Bradie James, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, Anthony Henry, Terrell Owens, Patrick Crayton and Corey Proctor all need to go, just because they aren't winners, they don't respond well to adversity, and they ruin our team chemistry.
                        As far as this part I would argue with you about some of the players for starters. I have defended Roy Williams and will continue to do so, ya he has had problems, but we don't know how he will respond after this year off, maybe he will rediscover the love he lost for the game. Bradie James, Canty, Henry, Crayton? James is one of the better players on our team and brings his A game every week, saying he doesn't help this team, that is like saying Ware doesn't help. Canty is starting to become a good force on the team, Henry who has been the only constant in our defensive backfield for the past few years, and Crayton has every right to struggle with adversity right now. He worked his A** off for as long as he did to win a spot on the team, then to contribute, then to be a target high on the food chain, now he has been demoted. That will make anyone feel like someone has just taken a dump all over them.



                        What really struck me was that Ray Lewis makes every player responsible for everything they do, they don't blame coaches, they take the blame and go out there and make sure they don't have to. Who on this team can make other guys take the blame when it is there fault? The answer is no one. We need to find a Type A personality guy to put on the Defense and tell him to kick some a** on the team, and make people start being accountable and quit pointing fingers.

                        Thanks to bonekrusher for the sig

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                        • Originally posted by DMWSackMachine View Post
                          There is a group of players whose attitudes and/or mental abilities just won't lead to any success. Roy Williams (SS), Bradie James, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, Anthony Henry, Terrell Owens, Patrick Crayton and Corey Proctor all need to go, just because they aren't winners, they don't respond well to adversity, and they ruin our team chemistry.
                          LMAO, Crayton is a 7th rd pick, did you see him play last night? But i guess he should go though, it's all his fault, even though he's a 7th rd QB get his ass outta here I can buy some guys like Proctor and Roy but your talking about getting better yet you want to gut the team.





                          Originally posted by Scott Wright
                          I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                          • Originally posted by Go Cowboys View Post
                            As far as this part I would argue with you about some of the players for starters. I have defended Roy Williams and will continue to do so, ya he has had problems, but we don't know how he will respond after this year off, maybe he will rediscover the love he lost for the game. Bradie James, Canty, Henry, Crayton? James is one of the better players on our team and brings his A game every week, saying he doesn't help this team, that is like saying Ware doesn't help. Canty is starting to become a good force on the team, Henry who has been the only constant in our defensive backfield for the past few years, and Crayton has every right to struggle with adversity right now. He worked his A** off for as long as he did to win a spot on the team, then to contribute, then to be a target high on the food chain, now he has been demoted. That will make anyone feel like someone has just taken a dump all over them.



                            What really struck me was that Ray Lewis makes every player responsible for everything they do, they don't blame coaches, they take the blame and go out there and make sure they don't have to. Who on this team can make other guys take the blame when it is there fault? The answer is no one. We need to find a Type A personality guy to put on the Defense and tell him to kick some a** on the team, and make people start being accountable and quit pointing fingers.
                            yea papa ray ray will put you in your place lol +rep for that. that is a fact and something alot of teams dont have. alot of teams put blame on other people but the ravens will mess up lewis will digg in there ass and then come out and that person will feel obligated to make a play
                            Originally posted by SunTzu_22
                            Just let it go RWO.
                            We as Ravens fans are clearly scum of the earth, and should just be happy that these great people, who cheer for nothing than the finest, morally impeccable players, playing on the finest, most morally impeccable teams, will grace us with their presence, and words of wisdom.

                            John Wall
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw

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                            • Originally posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES View Post
                              yea papa ray ray will put you in your place lol +rep for that. that is a fact and something alot of teams dont have. alot of teams put blame on other people but the ravens will mess up lewis will digg in there ass and then come out and that person will feel obligated to make a play
                              I think if Ray Lewis were to be a Free agent there is no way he would leave Baltimore, because I will forever see him as a Raven, but I would love to somehow get him here in Dallas though we really don't need him for anything than a guy to rip a**

                              Thanks to bonekrusher for the sig

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                              • Originally posted by Go Cowboys View Post
                                Realistic is a Bengals fan saying it would be great for us to win next week
                                A lions fan to realize the odds of them winning a game this year are 1/100
                                A Titans fan to be worried about their team and their inconsistency.

                                As far as romo, ya he is mobile, and that is great about him, and I would take him over most QB's in the league. But at a certain point it looks like we are playing backyard football. We could take the lineman and run plays out, and say you have 11 guys we have 6 but you can't blitz until 5 apple or whatever. And it would look much like we have the past few games as Romo doesn't sit where he has blocking, thus bringing un needed pressure
                                You've officially confused me. Do you want Romo or not?

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