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    If the Cowboys pass defense is not rated in the top 10 in the NFL next year, I will personally call this draft a failure. No ifs ands or buts.

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    Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
    I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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    I agree. With the players we have in the secondary, and the pass rush we are going to generate, we should own. We should be in the top 5 in the league in INT's as well.

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    • #3
      Well, I at least I have something to hold you guys accountable for.

      I don't believe the prediction for a minute unless Roy Williams overcomes his coverage problems by playing at 215lbs and Hamlin plays around 200 and focuses purely on coverage.

      I hope we are number 1. O and D.

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      • #4
        Agreed. (op) I'm excited to see what kind of pass rush we'll have. I'm glad we went with Spencer, because I think it addressed 2 needs with one pick. If he turns out to be a sack artist, then that alone should greatly improve our overall DB play. Hamlin and Roy will be scary if allowed to roam free. Newman's shutdown skills will be more apparent, and Henry won't need to worry about getting beat deep as much. He can play more physical, which is his strength. Love the Spencer pick. Makes a ton of sense. No excuses for Wade if he can't bring some major heat with the personnel we have at LB. So yeah, if our pass defense isn't excellent, I'll be highly disappointed.

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        • #5
          LSU, I know you were in favor of secondary help, so i'm curious to know what your strategy would have been this weekend? ie who you would had picked instead, if you liked the Quinn deal etc.

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          • #6
            I think given their talent level, that is a reasonable expectation.
            In war, you win or lose, live or die - and the difference is just an eyelash.


            -Douglas MacArthur

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            • #7
              Forget the pass defense ranking. I want W's!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LSUALUM99 View Post
                If the Cowboys pass defense is not rated in the top 10 in the NFL next year, I will personally call this draft a failure. No ifs ands or buts.
                Alright I'm going to bring up the "ifs, ands or buts" here. Hypothetically, let's say that our pass def is ranked 15th, but Spencer gets 15 sacks and DROY, Nick Folk goes 24/25 FGA, Anderson plays like the second coming of Lorenzo Neal, Courtney Brown shows flashes of being a stud and we go 12-4. By your comments, that would be an unsuccessful draft?

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                • #9
                  jdnoyes,

                  I would have traded down at 22, I don't have a problem with that. I liked the Quinn deal. But, I would have stayed at 36 and taken Weddle or Houston. I don't hate Spencer, I just think that trading down for a SECOND time in the second round was getting too cute and I wouldn't have traded the 36th pick to move up to 26. I would have either traded different picks or not moved up. If we could have gotten Houston I'd have been extatic. I even would have loved the Eric Wright pick at 53, but we moved down again.

                  I don't like the draft as a whole, I don't really like any one player. Free is probably the best draft pick we made in my mind and even that is a 'so so' pick with McQuistan on the roster.

                  Paul,

                  To answer your question, if we're #15 pass defense and Spencer has 15 sacks and is DROY that almost assuredly means that my supposition that we needed DB's as priority number 1 is true. If you have Spencer and Ware and you still rank less than top 10 it means your secondary is just HORRID.

                  I know that you were playing Devil's Advocate with your scenario but in my mind it just simply solidifies the supposition that DB's are our problem. Even if Folk plays like that and Anderson plays like Neal, we'll still have a glaring weakness in our team.

                  Again, if you have holes in your team, and you do not address them when the players you could have addressed them with are there, I consider it a failed draft.

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                  Originally posted by DMWSackMachine
                  I just wanna warn you guys not to take TNew41 too seriously. He's....let's just say, special. He's fairly harmless, though. He just needs several years of seasoning before he tries to make any more points, is all.

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                  • #10
                    I think a major bonus about making that second trade that will have much bigger ramifications that anything else was the fact that with that trade the Eagles ended up taking KEVIN KOLB!

                    Seriously, they wouldn't have taken him in any other scenario. Kolb as the future of the Eagles makes me extremely happy!!! :D

                    ...and I'll say Spencer > Houston > Weddle

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                    • #11
                      we will be the # 4 O, and the #1 D, those are my predictions. we need a stud at RB then we'd definately be the #1 O, with our 2 back system we wont get 1 but close...thats why we get Mcfadden next year.

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                      • #12
                        Why the hell is everybody giving us McFadden?! Like I said It's only April, who says Julius won't have monster year? Jesus, alteast wait until November before you start masturbating to McFadden.

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                        • #13
                          I don't care if we are 32nd in both if we at least win a playoff game i'll be happy.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jdnoyes View Post
                            I don't care if we are 32nd in both if we at least win a playoff game i'll be happy.
                            I'm with you there. Alls I want is consistent progress.

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                            • #15
                              LSU, Spencer can take a dump on Houston and Weddle's chest. Are you a former DB? Becuase you sure as hell love them.

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