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  • #16
    Originally posted by the decider13 View Post
    Crowder is the only guy out of 07 that I think will do good in the future. The rest are terrible to this point. Cutler, DJ, B-Marsh, Scheff, and elvis are great. But there have been a lot of other picks down the drain. The teams at the top have amazing drafts. Cant run a team through free agency and past their prime veterans.
    Moss was hurt and before than he was seeing an increasing amount of time on the field. Let's see what he can do this year putting on some weight and hopefully a healthy season.

    Thomas was starting for us the end of the season but don't let facts get in the way of making huge generalizations.

    Harris is unknown, but then again name the last time a rookie started for us at the o-line?

    They are trying to build through the draft and get young players in FA who are not past their prime, but then people such as njx9 criticize it for bringing in crap players.

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    • #17
      I'm with njx9 on the part about the drafting. You cant deny the lack of bronco drafted players. The last couple of years havent been as bad, but most the guys are still prospects. But from what I saw, crowder seems decent.

      Thomas was starting sure...how many great DTs are actually on our team?? Oh wait, that is our biggest need. That and Oline. Broncos have had bad drafts for years. Getting a little better, but still, better make some good calls this year.

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      Originally posted by BaLLiN72
      i wish NFLDC had something like "wall to wall" where we could see Brodeur and Job's conversations.
      Originally posted by Job
      NFLDC would be jizzing itself non-stop.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by the decider13 View Post
        I'm with njx9 on the part about the drafting. You cant deny the lack of bronco drafted players. The last couple of years havent been as bad, but most the guys are still prospects. But from what I saw, crowder seems decent.

        Thomas was starting sure...how many great DTs are actually on our team?? Oh wait, that is our biggest need. That and Oline. Broncos have had bad drafts for years. Getting a little better, but still, better make some good calls this year.
        I never denied that they had horrible drafts in previous years (in fact I said so before he did see post #12), and I agree that is the reason they are struggling now. But the recent years have been better. And I agree that they need to have a good draft this year.

        When the other DT is a worthless turd and Thomas gets double teamed every time what do you expect? Plus it was his rookie year and DT is probably the hardest position for a rookie to come in and do well.

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        • #19
          Thats my point about thomas, he has the off the field issues on top of it. Yes he started, but at our weakest position. I would've rather they picked up one of the safeties in a pretty weak DE draft last year. Now it is a weak safety class with a decent D line class.

          just my ideas on the bad drafting plans of the past. I hope they prove me wrong with a chris williams 1st rounder and Earl Bennett or Trevor Laws 2nd rounder.

          Sig by the sigmaster BoneKrusher. Each one is a masterpiece
          Originally posted by BaLLiN72
          i wish NFLDC had something like "wall to wall" where we could see Brodeur and Job's conversations.
          Originally posted by Job
          NFLDC would be jizzing itself non-stop.

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          • #20
            "webster was also pretty clearly worthless. by far worse than ian gold. unless you didn't watch the games. "

            Did I not state earlier that both Gold and Webster were worthless? Now you agree with me and some how it's proving me wrong. Whatever. And you said Webster is pretty worthless...yet you said towards the end of the season and I quote, "Webster has been, in every game I've watched, by far our most effective linebacker." And prior to that you said Gold is the worst player in the NFL. But now Webster is far worse than Gold...LOL. Whatever credibility you had can be thrown out with your waffling. If Webster is our most effective linebacker why are we bringing in a LB who you claim is a complete turd (ie Bailey). Kerry and Einstein have got nothing on you.

            "no doubt you know better and have some actual verifiable content to bring to the table." "prove it."

            Do you have verifiable content and how about you prove he isn't. I already stated Bailey wasn't that great but you ignored that....surprise. If Bailey is equivalent to Webster, who you just agreed was pretty worthless, do you honestly think the front office would have brought him in just to waste Bowlen's money?

            "because you can't even invent a reasonable-sounding argument? because i called you out on not knowing what you're talking about and you're trying to prove me right?"

            I provided sound arguments to your dribble and you respond with the crap in your post.

            Provide tape...how about you do it buddy. I've got every Broncos game on tape since 2000. What makes you an expert on matters huh? I provided my opinion and said time will tell. If you want to be immature and claim that somehow you are more of an expert than me or the front office then go ahead. I'd love to see your credentials for being an expert.

            "no, it's not. he sucked. the panthers bought it. don't you take every front office's word for everything? or just ours? panthers fans are glad to be rid of him. can't imagine why. those stellar numbers he put up and all that playing time.... whew. he'll be a superstar for sure."

            Please provide a link to where I said he would be a superstar? And if Colbert comes in and puts up 600 yards what will people say then?

            "3 years for 7 million is NOT cheap, kiddo."

            When you are comparing to other salaries being thrown out there for players who have done absolutely nothing yes it is, son. Which WR would you have us pick up who has signed for a comparable salary?

            "find a tape and prove it."

            Prove he wasn't. If you don't agree to that then there is no point talking to you as even the dumbest of fans can recognize seeing #47 in the box. And did I mention two years ago? No...I said last year.

            "yeah, that's such a great argument. clearly there isn't anyone on earth who could've done better than the broncos front office. that's why they won the super bowl. because they didn't make and haven't made any mistakes ever. i guess eventually the broncos had to have a ridiculous homer who apparently doesn't see anything wrong with the way their franchise (with the #12 overall pick and a losing record to brag about) has been operating for the better part of a decade. no doubt our draft record from 2000-2004 isn't nearly as bad as it looks. our free agent signing record is also spectacular. that's why we're the best team in football."

            LOL

            "yeah? well i said it back in november!"

            You want a cookie?

            "yeah, gosh, i'm such a meanie. i'm sure shanny is up all night crying to himself. there were better players available for next to no money in free agency and trade. i have NOT criticized any of our recent (2006 and 2007) draftees as being garbage yet, although our draft record early (2000-2005)implies that most of them will be. our free agency record sucks. why, exactly, should i "just have faith" that these crappy signees are suddenly the answer? should i base it on the fact that they've been garbage for their entire career to this point? maybe i should base it on the fact that i'm a broncos fan and the franchise has never, will never and in fact, can never do anything wrong."

            If you can't recognize your own hypocrisy when it is thrown back in your face there is not much of a point in talking to you.

            I'll make sure and bump this thread next season so you can try and defend yourself.
            Last edited by rascal; 03-10-2008, 06:10 PM.

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            • #21
              Ahh, it must be off season on NFLDC, I miss these rants njx

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              • #22
                I'm with njx9.. I don't see how our linebackers have improved at all. Boss Bailey is injury prone and not a sure tackler. Koutouvides should be depth, at best.

                And, once again, we are putting a band-aid on our lack of talent at safety. It seems like our front office's philosophy is "one teams trash is another team's treasure"..

                We are gonna need a very good draft to salvage the 08 season.

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                • #23
                  I feel a little better about the McCree deal now that they've released the contract info. It's a one year deal for $2 million, including a $500,000 signing bonus. Basically a test drive. I think both McCree and Manuel got $1/2 million signing bonuses, so we could even cut them without to much fuss if they get beat out in camp.

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