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  • Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
    Really? Wouldn't it do Tebow better to sit for 2 seasons? He seems like the type to take advantage of all the time learning that he can and I don't see what the rush should be. He was a project anyway. Plus will McDaniels have time to roll with Tebow and his ups as a 1st year starter? If he's brought back, he needs Orton to probably win as many games as he can to keep his job right?
    In an ideal world, Tebow sits until he is ready. Of course, that's true of any rookie.

    In this situation, though, McD almost has to show he didn't screw up by drafting Tebow. He's been getting called out big time for his personnel decisions and needs to respond. It's not like they spent some 6th round flyer on a guy with an outside chance at panning out... if you valued him as a first rounder, he should be a lot more "player" than "project".

    Of course, McD is going to hold off playing Tebow this year as long as he can. Why? Because he's got nothing to gain by playing Tebow. If Tebow plays poorly, McD is pretty much dead in the water. If Tebow plays well, it could hurt Orton's value by making him appear more of a product of the system.

    We're all set up to make this move. Quinn is a waste of a roster spot as long as Orton is on the team. There's no question that Tebow wants to start. Orton isn't a clutch player, despite his stats.

    I'll be surprised if Orton is still on the roster next fall.

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    • Tebow needs to play some more toward ends of game I mean if they are down by 14 or even 21 points . Put the kid in and lets see what he can do / learned so far this season. I mean by most of the second round or first round picks have gotten more playing time then he has . I'm sure he has been working on drop back type plays and what not this entire season etc . So why not play him in the 4th quarter if you down so far . I say give the kid a chance late in the game . The crowd is gonna cheer any way .

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      • We are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That is all.

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        • That's weird, it isn't week 17 yet.


          Originally posted by Scott Wright
          Terrellezzzzzzzz Pryorzzzzzzzz!
          Originally posted by njx9
          do i tell you when to flip the burger?

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          • Orton sucked ass today.

            Moreno rocked.

            Who throws 8 passes in a row when you've been gouging the opposition on the ground? If it was McD, he should be fired immediately. If it was Orton audibling out of the runs at the line, he needs a Casino-style beating in a cornfield.

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            • Originally posted by njx9
              was moreno actually good, or were the chiefs just playing the pass all game?
              The Chiefs were focusing on stopping Orton, no question. However, the line opened up some nice holes and Moreno did good damage. Too bad McD is a ******* **** and didn't stick with Moreno to finish the game.

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              • Originally posted by njx9
                ugh. if only mcidiot hadn't taken him fricking 12th.
                Yeah, that wasn't a strong pick, but really, none were in 2009. McD was not ready for the draft and it showed. IIRC they were worried about what SD would do... and considering that SD made a big move up in the following draft to get a RB, they might've been right.

                Really, this all comes back to turning over too much control to McD before he'd established his credibility. A stronger GM over the last 2 seasons would've actually helped both the team and McD by letting him narrow his focus. Same kind of logic holds true with the coordinator spots. The problem was McD didn't want any veteran voices who could challenge him (e.g. Goodmans, Nolan), which is the folly/arrogance of youth. He's paying for that now.

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                • Originally posted by njx9
                  was moreno actually good, or were the chiefs just playing the pass all game?
                  On his two runs of over 20 yards, you could have picked up 15.

                  On another note. Orton was horrific. 9-28. No tier 2 quarterback does that. Ever.

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                  • Originally posted by njx9
                    to be fair, i think i'm still about as fast as moreno is.
                    It seems to me the offensive system could make excellent use of both a bulldozer (LenDale White when he returns?) and a fast/quick back (ala Sproles, Woodhead). Those complementary running styles can be an effective change of pace or allow you to key in on weaknesses in the defense.

                    For a guy who really likes running lots of different packages and making heavy use of substitution, the insistence on using vanilla RB's is somewhat puzzling.

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                    • Christmas just came 3 weeks early.

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                      • Addition by subtraction. I love it.

                        WELCOME REALITY

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                        • schefter mentioned leslie frazier as a possibility. i'd be happy with that, as long as we pair him with a competent gm.

                          thinking about the big names out there, most of them either aren't appealing or would be unlikely to want the job
                          Now the only ones I take are the ones that I wear
                          Ain't takin no shorts no more

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                          • IMO, the new coaching staff will have ties to the Shanahan-era Broncos. Kubiak, Calhoun from Air Force, Dennison, hell maybe even Wade Phillips as DC.

                            Expect the return of the ZBS as the core of our offensive philosophy.

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                            • Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss.


                              Originally posted by Scott Wright
                              Terrellezzzzzzzz Pryorzzzzzzzz!
                              Originally posted by njx9
                              do i tell you when to flip the burger?

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                              • I see you guys are having fun.
                                As for coaches, Brian Schottenheimer might work. The Denver native can maintain a zone blocking scheme that they had before, as well as do a good job with Tebow, since he's really all you got.
                                As for the defense, Bob Sutton is an assistant with the Jets, he can work. The defense was a mess before McDaniels got there, while they have a few pieces, I think they should stay with a 3-4. They can reload the defensive line this year.

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