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  • I don't really see a whole lot of "drop 9 zone's" being played out there.

    The fact is we have a cycle going on. Fire a DC. Hire a new one. Not improve the quality on the D-Line. Blame DC. Fire DC. Hire a new one.

    It's been going on for the entire decade. Fire Coyer. I don't really care. I don't really like or dislike him. I'd like to see someone else do better with the talent we've had up front. The fact is we're not going to be a truly elite defense until we upgrade the talent on the D-Line. I don't care who the DC is.

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    • You guys sound like the same thing we discuss. There's plenty of talk in Cincy about firing the DC since the games we have lost this year are pretty much due to a very passive style of defense employed in games where it was if he "feared" Vick so we sat back and let him look for a receiver all day long. Same with Manning, same with SD in the 2nd half, and so on and so on. If we rush the QB and throw in an occasional blitz from an OLB or Safety, we are OK. If we sit back, we will lose to you too

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      • Originally posted by Stats
        I don't really see a whole lot of "drop 9 zone's" being played out there.

        The fact is we have a cycle going on. Fire a DC. Hire a new one. Not improve the quality on the D-Line. Blame DC. Fire DC. Hire a new one.

        It's been going on for the entire decade. Fire Coyer. I don't really care. I don't really like or dislike him. I'd like to see someone else do better with the talent we've had up front. The fact is we're not going to be a truly elite defense until we upgrade the talent on the D-Line. I don't care who the DC is.
        ah, so you're totally ok with the fact that our DC refuses to blitz once we have the lead? or the blown 4th quarter leads that were a direct result of his inability to be aggressive?

        i'm curious, how many times have you seen him make half-time adjustments to what the other team is doing? how many times have you seen him play anything but zone once we have the lead?

        or let's get really specific: do you honestly believe that he was being agressive against san diego in the 4th quarter in week 11 when we gave up 14 4th quarter points? or against seattle when we let in 16 4th quarter points? both games were completely winnable until we played prevent for the ENTIRE 4th quarter.

        wait, i can see the response, "no we didn't" or "i don't recall us doing that". fine. prove to me that there's a vast difference in the team from early in the season, when, because the games were close throughout, he couldn't drop into a prevent, and now. i'm talking about the talent level. since, if the entire problem is the defensive line, there must have been a major change in personnel or ability, right? or maybe, just maybe, our DC has been letting the team down to the tune of 2 big losses?

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          Congrats Denver on the big win, Im glad to see my boy J.C. playing better each week, you guys have a bright future on offense with all those rookies contributing

          ...and one more thing, Champ Baily :shock:, I dont understand why teams even consider throwing to his side
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          • Originally posted by Titans10
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            Congrats Denver on the big win, Im glad to see my boy J.C. playing better each week, you guys have a bright future on offense with all those rookies contributing

            ...and one more thing, Champ Baily :shock:, I dont understand why teams even consider throwing to his side
            Eh... the temptation to "burn" Bailey is too great I suppose. Also, Bailey does get beat tho... but momentarily... his make up speed is faster than what QBs perceive.

            It was a "Christmas" win for sure. Some good drives. And Cutler is showing his arm beautifully. However, he got lucky several times. Same thing w/our defense. Palmer made some horrible throws and our defense got lucky. Also, to win b/c the snap was bad is credit to the mile high weather and luck. But, I'll take it. A win is a win.

            Now... no letdown to SF.

            Projected win total: 55+

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            • Originally posted by Namy
              Originally posted by Titans10
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              Congrats Denver on the big win, Im glad to see my boy J.C. playing better each week, you guys have a bright future on offense with all those rookies contributing

              ...and one more thing, Champ Baily :shock:, I dont understand why teams even consider throwing to his side
              It was a "Christmas" win for sure. .
              A Christmas win for a quarterback from Santa Claus, Indiana

              And I dont think there will be a let down for San Fran due to the fact that you control your own destiny, if you win your in, and the players will respond to that
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              • Originally posted by njx9
                Originally posted by Stats
                I don't really see a whole lot of "drop 9 zone's" being played out there.

                The fact is we have a cycle going on. Fire a DC. Hire a new one. Not improve the quality on the D-Line. Blame DC. Fire DC. Hire a new one.

                It's been going on for the entire decade. Fire Coyer. I don't really care. I don't really like or dislike him. I'd like to see someone else do better with the talent we've had up front. The fact is we're not going to be a truly elite defense until we upgrade the talent on the D-Line. I don't care who the DC is.
                ah, so you're totally ok with the fact that our DC refuses to blitz once we have the lead? or the blown 4th quarter leads that were a direct result of his inability to be aggressive?

                i'm curious, how many times have you seen him make half-time adjustments to what the other team is doing? how many times have you seen him play anything but zone once we have the lead?

                or let's get really specific: do you honestly believe that he was being agressive against san diego in the 4th quarter in week 11 when we gave up 14 4th quarter points? or against seattle when we let in 16 4th quarter points? both games were completely winnable until we played prevent for the ENTIRE 4th quarter.

                wait, i can see the response, "no we didn't" or "i don't recall us doing that". fine. prove to me that there's a vast difference in the team from early in the season, when, because the games were close throughout, he couldn't drop into a prevent, and now. i'm talking about the talent level. since, if the entire problem is the defensive line, there must have been a major change in personnel or ability, right? or maybe, just maybe, our DC has been letting the team down to the tune of 2 big losses?
                So you're a fan of the cycle.

                Fine. Lets fire Coyer. I can't wait to see the next guy get it done with our current D-Line. Should be fun. :)

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                • Getting a top ten pick in the third from the Redskins is awesome. I guess according to Gibbs, we don't get their fourth next year because they played so bad. Oh well. . . :D
                  Me and Keak Da Sneak were legendary.

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                  • Originally posted by Stats
                    So you're a fan of the cycle.

                    Fine. Lets fire Coyer. I can't wait to see the next guy get it done with our current D-Line. Should be fun. :)
                    i'd much rather address both, but i don't believe for one second that the crap coyer ran in the 4th quarter on sunday (carson palmer tore us up and, by my radio stopwatch, didn't take more than 4 seconds on a single third down) would work with anyone manning our d-line. there's just no way you're ever going to get to the quarterback in 3ish seconds every single play.

                    clearly darrent or foxworth has to step up at the corner opposite champ and actually, you know, cover someone. the safeties have to be upgraded (or at the very least, lynch needs to stop being asked to cover anyone man-to-man, another problem i have with coyer).

                    someone on the front seven has to tackle at least every once in a while. we're not going to beat very many good teams if champ is having to come up and make every tackle.

                    i'm not by any means saying that our ONLY problem is DC, but i think it's ridiculous to believe that he doesn't have any part in the problems with this team.

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                    • Originally posted by Chris
                      Getting a top ten pick in the third from the Redskins is awesome. I guess according to Gibbs, we don't get their fourth next year because they played so bad. Oh well. . . :D
                      i wonder if they'll take jake for their first...

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                      • Originally posted by njx9
                        Originally posted by Chris
                        Getting a top ten pick in the third from the Redskins is awesome. I guess according to Gibbs, we don't get their fourth next year because they played so bad. Oh well. . . :D
                        i wonder if they'll take jake for their first...
                        Nah, the Redskins aren't that stupid...they'll hold out until we include Foster in the deal. 8)

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                        • We got you guys on sunday. Should be a great matchup. Even though we will most likely get blown out, i want to see how our team matches up with a superior team, on the road in one of the toughest stadiums to play no less. Heres to a good game with no injuries.

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                          • Bengal fan here counting on the Niners to beat up on Denver. I actually think Frank Gore can have success and the 49ers will give the Broncos a great game.

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                            • Originally posted by rickscott
                              Bengal fan here counting on the Niners to beat up on Denver. I actually think Frank Gore can have success and the 49ers will give the Broncos a great game.
                              does that help you in some way i'm unaware of? i thought your best chance was for the jets to drop since we now have the head to head game.

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                              • Well i don't like to see Cutler lose, but lets go 49ers!!! :( :(

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