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  • Report: MARTZ WEARING OUT HIS WELCOME IN DETROIT

    http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...g_coaches.html

    Hopefully its just a short term misunderstanding, not a season-long clash. Looks like the bye week couldn't have come at a better time.

  • #2
    We pretty much have two head coaches. Things were bound to get rough.. Mike Martz is a very stingy man.. but he usually gets results. If he isn't getting results; all you have is a prissy little biitch running your offense.

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    • #3
      This has already been worked out. Martz showed at the drsaft table and in FA that he has Millen's ear and Marinelli gets the leftovers. Marinelli is a good team player who was hired because he won't criticize Millen's decisions and accept what comes his way. Unfortunately, players aren't the only ones who complain about this organization, coaches can get miserable when a team starts to loose as well. I guess we'll just have to get rid of the malcontents on the coaching staff and bring in more yes men who will follow Marinelli example of being a good team player who will accept what comes his way without complaint. Yes get rid of the malcontents, the coaches with no character who just want to win. We NEED more coaches with character who don't care if the team stinks..
      And proud of it!!!

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      • #4
        So what happens with life after Martz? Do you think Millen has even thought of that?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Scotty D View Post
          So what happens with life after Martz? Do you think Millen has even thought of that?
          The way Millen operates could lead to Marinelli departing and Martz getting the HCing position. It isn't out of the realm of possibility especially since Millen seems to listen to Martz's advice a lot more than Marinelli's.
          Millen may well weigh his options because the Detroit fans will go nuts if Martz leaves and we are back to winning 3 or 4 games a year. Remember, Kitna may well retire if Martz departs as he is no spring chicken.
          Really, can Millen afford to loose Martz, I just cannot see Millen surviving for more than 1 year after Martz is gone. Not even the incompetent owner like Ford will be able to withstand the outrage should we return to 3 or 4 victories a year.
          To be honest, I hope Martz departs because that will finally signal the end of Millen, the most incompetent GM in the history of pro football. I see no hope for our franchise as long as Millen runs the show, none. We just have to pray that Ford by mistake, hires the wrong guy for a change, a guy who can actually build a winner instead of his usual incompetents. Ford certainly isn't going to hire a competent GM if he follows his normal hiring practice so we just have to hope he makes a colossal mistake and hires the right guy.
          And proud of it!!!

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          • #6
            Agreed, how can the Ford's possibly be committed to winning if Millen still has a job. In no other situation could you be that bad at your job and still keep it. It baffles me how a owner of a NFL team could be so blatent in his lack of caring whether his organization wins or not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD View Post
              Agreed, how can the Ford's possibly be committed to winning if Millen still has a job. In no other situation could you be that bad at your job and still keep it. It baffles me how a owner of a NFL team could be so blatent in his lack of caring whether his organization wins or not.
              yeah it still amazes me Millen still has a freakin' job in the first place, that man is a walking, talking real-life portrait of inadequacy.

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              • #8
                i think this is more assuming on Kowalskis part i saw no quotes in that article. Calvin Johnson was not one hundred percent so they didnt play him as much. Sure his playcalling is a little weird right now and Washington shut him down but right now the lions need to get their oline healthy and playing up to where they played in the first two games. If they cant do that this our offense will do very little. Right now i dont see these claashes between coaches a big deal. They all want to win so when they get blown out like they did it would be natural for them to look at eachother. They'll egt over it

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                • #9
                  Greg Williams did own Martz though. He had a good gameplan.

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                  • #10
                    Sweet, Martz can come back to the Louie down.

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                    • #11
                      It's only a matter of time till we clean house again.

                      I am becomming more and more convinced that Marinelli is not fit to be a Head Coach. His in-game decision making is atrocious at times. He challenges all the wrong plays (like that Lehman forced PR fumble last week), he isn't aggressive enough when he needs to be, and the fact that he has NEVER been a Head Coach at ANY LEVEL of football is apparent in watching him. He may be a good motivator from Monday to Saturday in practice, and he might preach all the ideals that every good coach should preach, but when I see him on Sunday's and during press conferences, the only thing I am thinking is, "Hey, this guy would make an excellent Defensive Coordinator."

                      See the problem?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
                        It's only a matter of time till we clean house again.

                        I am becomming more and more convinced that Marinelli is not fit to be a Head Coach. His in-game decision making is atrocious at times. He challenges all the wrong plays (like that Lehman forced PR fumble last week), he isn't aggressive enough when he needs to be, and the fact that he has NEVER been a Head Coach at ANY LEVEL of football is apparent in watching him. He may be a good motivator from Monday to Saturday in practice, and he might preach all the ideals that every good coach should preach, but when I see him on Sunday's and during press conferences, the only thing I am thinking is, "Hey, this guy would make an excellent Defensive Coordinator."

                        See the problem?
                        Hmmm....guess I never noticed before. I guess he's just never done that major idiot move, like deferring in overtime.
                        Cheers to Michigan winters...

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                        • #13
                          Good, He come to Minnesota because Childress deserves to be fired.



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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
                            It's only a matter of time till we clean house again.

                            I am becomming more and more convinced that Marinelli is not fit to be a Head Coach. His in-game decision making is atrocious at times. He challenges all the wrong plays (like that Lehman forced PR fumble last week), he isn't aggressive enough when he needs to be, and the fact that he has NEVER been a Head Coach at ANY LEVEL of football is apparent in watching him. He may be a good motivator from Monday to Saturday in practice, and he might preach all the ideals that every good coach should preach, but when I see him on Sunday's and during press conferences, the only thing I am thinking is, "Hey, this guy would make an excellent Defensive Coordinator."

                            See the problem?
                            He challenges pretty much EVERY close play, if it doesn't go our way.. but maybe that's on our guys in the booth that are supposed to watch for that stuff.. or Marinelli could just be trigger happy. I can't think of any particular mistakes, other than challenges, that he's made though..

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                            • #15
                              Yeah challenges are usually told to him from the guys upstairs. To be honest i dont see your problem with Marinelli Xio. Right now i think he is the right fguy for this team he's not going to give up and he expects nothing but the same from this team. When it comes down to X's and O's offense isnt a big deal because thats mostly up to Martz.

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