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    Your NEW Detroit Lions

    Via draft pick:

    #4 Overall
    Glenn Dorsery, Defensive Tackle, LSU

    We traded up to get this pick after the offer came to us. We never intended to go this high but when the opportunity presented itself, we had to do it. We traded away Shaun Rogers and were going to try to replace him with a 2nd or 3rd round DT but Dorsey is the prefect replacement. We believe he can play the NT in the Cover 2 and do a great job. The one gripe with Shaun Rogers play was the horrible inconsistency. He’d be dominating one game and horrible the next. We won when he got pressure, lost when he didn’t. Dorsey brings all the same skills and be just as good, if not better, and with a ton more consistency.

    #15 Overall
    Jonathan Stewart, Running Back, Oregon


    Another hole that was immediately filled with another player that will probably be better in Jonathan Stewart. We traded Kevin Jones away, not because of a lack of talent, but because we saw him as a damaged player. After missing significant time with lisfranc surgery, he came back and was underutilized in Martz’s offense. At the end of the season he suffered a torn ACL that leaves him possibly unable to be back by training camp. Enter Jonathan Stewart. Stewart is a punishing runner that has great size and very good speed. He can catch from out of the backfield and can almost do anything. With more of an emphasis on running, he will be very valuable.

    #51 Overall
    Philip Wheeler, Middle Linebacker, Georgia Tech


    We managed to get our man even after we risked moving down in a trade. Wheeler is the perfect cover 2 MLB. He has great speed so he can cover the middle of the field. He has the knack for big hits and big plays so he will fit perfectly with Ernie Sims at SLB and Tavares Gooden at SLB. He will instantly become a leader on our transformed defense.

    #87 Overall
    Chevis Jackson, Cornerback, LSU


    Chevis is the prototypical Cover 2 CB. He brings a toughness to this defense that Marinelli will definitely love. One of the weaknesses the Lions D has last season was not being able to tackle anyone. This will not be a problem for Chevis as he is reliable. He doesn’t have great timed speed but will play well in zone coverage.

    #91 Overall
    Chad Rinehart, Offensive Guard, Northern Iowa


    Ahhhh, the controversial pick. Some may have felt this was a reach, well, screw you, it worked out in the end. This guy is a small school sleeper so he has potential to rise on draft day. He is raw but has the groundwork to be a standout out offensive lineman. He can play both guard and tackle, either side, if needed. With how inconsistent the Lions line is [Woody’s weight, Foster sucking a fat one, etc.], a versatile player is needed and welcome.

    #137 Overall
    Tavares Gooden, Outside Linebacker, Miami


    Well, this was just stupid. The #4 OLB falls all the way to the 5th round. Gooden will step in and immediately start at the SLB, after Paris “Postal Worker” Lenon was pushed from MLB to SLB to the bench. Maybe they’ll rotate. He is fast, athletic and a reliable tackler, a great attribute in this D. He may not make big plays behind the line but that can be left to Wheeler and Sims. A HUGE steal for us.

    Via trade:

    Bertand Berry, Defensive End

    Acquired from Arizona in the trade down that landed us Wheeler, he almost came, in our eyes, for free. While he has had injury problems, when on the field, he is a starter at DE for us. He can be dominant and that is needed in a Cover 2. He will bring a great pass rush.

    Daniel Graham, Tight End

    Graham brings us a player who can catch the ball and will probably come in and start at TE with Dan Campbell coming off injury. He has a championship attitude after winning with the Patriots. He will give us a reliable safety valve for Kitna [and Stanton].

    Jason Avant, Wide Reciever

    We got Jason Avant cheap and he can come in and compete for the #2 WR position. There have been concerns about Furrey’s performance without Martz and Avant gives us an option if Furrey proves to be a #3 WR. And he’s from U of M….

    Overview

    We think that this was a great draft for us. We lost 3 starters in Roy, Rogers and KJ. Roy is a big loss but the other two were inconsistent due to injury of just lack of effort. We have brought in 6 new starters to Detroit in Dorsey, Stewart, Wheeler, Gooden, Barry and Graham. Jackson can fight for a starting position as well as he may be suited better for Cover 2 CB then our current players. Rinehart will have a chance to develop.

    Overall, our defense is completely changed. Our front seven is completely changed and will be very intense. Our line is going to pressuring the QB, stopping the run and letting our extremely athletic LB corps run amok behind them. This will take pressure off the weakness of the D, the secondary. It showed last season that when we got a pass rush we won. I think we will now get a very nice rush from our front seven. And we will actually tackle someone.

    So now we have the fastest LB corps in the NFL. Nicknamed “The Fast Last Name Containing Vowels African American Linebackers”. Acronym is FLNCVAAL, pronounced Falcon Covaal.



    PLEASE LEAVE SOME FEEDBACK SINCE I WROTE THAT WHOLE THING
    Last edited by wingboy2999; 02-12-2008, 11:08 AM.


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  • #2
    I will give you guys an A for effort. And a B+ for overall drafting and dealing.

    Nice work


    You guys should post a depth chart.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
      I will give you guys an A for effort. And a B+ for overall drafting and dealing.

      Nice work


      You guys should post a depth chart.
      Sounds good to me. I guess we could have gotten an A without Rinehart? Haha. Just look at it as us drafting Gooden in the 3rd and then Rinehart in the 5th. That'll give us an A.

      I'll probably do a depth chart later.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by wingboy2999 View Post
        Sounds good to me. I guess we could have gotten an A without Rinehart? Haha. Just look at it as us drafting Gooden in the 3rd and then Rinehart in the 5th. That'll give us an A.

        I'll probably do a depth chart later.
        There was a mass exodus of current roster talent, but we got a lot of younger talent coming in to replace them. You guys chose to go the re-building route, but no one can really blame you. The Lions won't be able to make a serious playoff run until they get a better Quarterback than Jon Kitna. Here's to hoping Stanton can be that guy.
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        • #5
          Great Job. Multiple holes were filled on both sides of the ball. The front 7 has been upgraded tremendously. Got a STUD RB who will command a lot of attention and as a result balances the offense, which is exactly what Colleto wants.

          The only downfall is that there is still a lack of depth at CB. With Bryant contemplating retirement, along with Wilson and Smith not being effective in the cover 2, getting at least 2 corners (including one surefire starter) was essential.

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          • #6
            The draft was solid. Dorsey is dominant and Wheeler is a great fit at MLB, but Berry is aging and has injury concerns. The DLine is now: White - Dorsey - Redding - Berry... which is... OK. Not great, but OK.

            The secondary is still rather weak. Chevis Jackson may not be ready to step into a starting role, and no one is sure how Bullocks will play after the injury. That leaves us with a similar group to last year's unit.

            The receiving unit was weakened, but I'm not so sure the group of RBs was improved. KJones, when healthy, is a great RB... and this injury was less severe than the injury last year. He has a drive and a punishing running style, and would be happier here without Martz. I can see him having a great year this year and resigning. Graham should help, and Avant offers us more than just another return option. The starting OLine group wasn't touched.

            Overall, I give it a C+. The DLine isn't a dominant unit and the secondary is not much improved... two things that killed us last year. I also don't think Stewart is THAT much better than a healthy KJones. Wing: Add that Avant is a good KR/PR... would help your case... and Sims plays WLB. Other than that, good write-up.
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            • #7
              Ok, I don't agree with the C+ at all. You seem to be treating the players like they play 100% all of the time, which they sure as hell don't. Roy was the only one capable of doing anything consistently. Rogers would not do it because of effort and injury and everything else. KJ would not do it because of injury.

              We need consistency. We played very well when we had a pass rush [aka Rogers playing well] and nothing when we didn't [aka Rogers not doing anything and being gassed]. If Rogers could have been 100% all of the time then we'd never entertain the thought of trading Rogers.

              Offense: Yeah, our WRs took a step back, obviously. And yes, KJ can be a great back. Can being the operative word. But he is damaged goods to an extent. He has two injuries to his legs which are going to hobble him and get worse. He was still feeling the effects from his foot surgery last season. Jonathan Stewart is going to be a great back. I have him damn near DMC as far as RBs go. Stewart will be there game in and game out. He will be very effective in our new balanced attack [thus lessening the need of two #1 WRs]. The offense will be good. Oh, and we traded for Nat Dorsey, a young LT. Avant and Graham will give us more help out there.

              OL: We got a OT/OG in Rinehart and Nat Dorsey for OT. We think that we will be fine with a less complex offense and less time for our QB to be put on his ass. We started putting it together at the end of the season. I think it'll round into shape.

              Front Seven: I disagree big time. Again, it comes down to consistency. Dorsey will be as good, if not better, then Rogers. And he'll be there game in and game out. He won't be ridiculously out of shape. Berry obviously has injury concerns but he can be dominant when playing. We will get a consistent pass rush with our D-Line. You even said it, with a good LB corps out D will be much better. Sims - Wheeler - Gooden >>> Sims - Lenon - Whoever. They will be making plays all over the place. When the front seven played well last season we went 6-2. And then they sucked and we sucked. Well, they are much improved.

              Secondary: Obviously this isn't much improved but like I said, front seven takes pressure off of them. Chevis is the best fit for the Cover 2 out of the guy we got so that is what we got. Our weakness only showed when our front seven sucked. Remember, we were near the tops in the NFL in takeaways for a long time. It won't be exposed if we get a pass rush, which I think we have.


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              • #8
                Nat Dorsey, Offensive Tackle


                We received Nat Dorsey in a deal for Tatum Bell. Tatum Bell wanted out so we accommodated him. Dorsey plays OT for the Browns and has been pushed aside with the arrival of Joe Thomas. He still has potential and is only 24 years old. He will provide some competition in our OT position.
                Last edited by wingboy2999; 02-12-2008, 02:41 PM.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wingboy2999 View Post
                  Ok, I don't agree with the C+ at all. You seem to be treating the players like they play 100% all of the time, which they sure as hell don't. Roy was the only one capable of doing anything consistently. Rogers would not do it because of effort and injury and everything else. KJ would not do it because of injury.

                  We need consistency. We played very well when we had a pass rush [aka Rogers playing well] and nothing when we didn't [aka Rogers not doing anything and being gassed]. If Rogers could have been 100% all of the time then we'd never entertain the thought of trading Rogers.

                  Offense: Yeah, our WRs took a step back, obviously. And yes, KJ can be a great back. Can being the operative word. But he is damaged goods to an extent. He has two injuries to his legs which are going to hobble him and get worse. He was still feeling the effects from his foot surgery last season. Jonathan Stewart is going to be a great back. I have him damn near DMC as far as RBs go. Stewart will be there game in and game out. He will be very effective in our new balanced attack [thus lessening the need of two #1 WRs]. The offense will be good. Oh, and we traded for Nat Dorsey, a young LT. Avant and Graham will give us more help out there.

                  OL: We got a OT/OG in Rinehart and Nat Dorsey for OT. We think that we will be fine with a less complex offense and less time for our QB to be put on his ass. We started putting it together at the end of the season. I think it'll round into shape.

                  Front Seven: I disagree big time. Again, it comes down to consistency. Dorsey will be as good, if not better, then Rogers. And he'll be there game in and game out. He won't be ridiculously out of shape. Berry obviously has injury concerns but he can be dominant when playing. We will get a consistent pass rush with our D-Line. You even said it, with a good LB corps out D will be much better. Sims - Wheeler - Gooden >>> Sims - Lenon - Whoever. They will be making plays all over the place. When the front seven played well last season we went 6-2. And then they sucked and we sucked. Well, they are much improved.

                  Secondary: Obviously this isn't much improved but like I said, front seven takes pressure off of them. Chevis is the best fit for the Cover 2 out of the guy we got so that is what we got. Our weakness only showed when our front seven sucked. Remember, we were near the tops in the NFL in takeaways for a long time. It won't be exposed if we get a pass rush, which I think we have.
                  Yeah... and you seem to be treating rookies like they can, undoubtedly, perform in the NFL.

                  I didn't expect you to agree with (or like) my ranking... but I haven't found a reason to change it.

                  You're putting a lot of stock into the play of (many) rookies. It takes at least a year for a player to understand the Cover 2, and usually half a year for an offensive player to understand enough of the play book to step in comfortably.

                  Although Rogers was out of shape and didn't play quite a few snaps, he still recorded 7 sacks, 1 FF and an INT... which is a solid season. I don't think you can say with certainty that Dorsey would outperform him.

                  I didn't know about Nat Dorsey before my ranking, but I don't think it changes much. Sure, he adds depth... but I don't think a player that started only 9 games of his 4 year NFL career will come in and solidify a struggling OLine.

                  KJones recovered far ahead of schedule and was explosive last year. We also have Duckett, who is solid, and Calhoun. I'm not ready to trade KJ and revamp the RB group... especially with a 1st round pick.

                  And... Berry. I would've rather drafted Gholston and trade for an aging NT than draft Dorsey and trade for an aging DE. He isn't the answer.

                  At one point, you had 4 2nd round picks... which could've left us with Phillip Merling, Patrick Lee, Felix Jones, Philip Wheeler and Trevor Laws (and Chevis Jackson in round 3)... our Cover 2 DT, a pass-rushing DE, a Cover 2 MLB, 2 true Cover 2 CBs and a solid RB.

                  The draft was OK... but I don't think it was great.
                  Last edited by TacticaLion; 02-12-2008, 03:01 PM.
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                  • #10
                    i'm with you guys who drafted everybody
                    i love the new dline-white dorsey redding berry looks good at both pass/run
                    love the new linebackers, absolutely stole gooden
                    get an elite rb from this year's class to replace KJ
                    love graham
                    oline doesn't concern me as much because kitna won't have to look 20yrds downfield every snap anymore


                    *also, i normally only expect about 3 guys to pan out in any given draft, so the addition of a proven vet like graham along with berry to plug into the dline helps a ton. so instead of statistically hitting on probably just DT, one of our LBs, RB, and probably CB, we can add TE and RE filled aswell. and i like both LBs so probably a plus at 7 positions and helping special teams out with depth. i don't expect a championship next year, but it should speed up the current 50 year plan.
                    Last edited by Prowler; 02-12-2008, 03:10 PM. Reason: didn't want to waste another post because i forgot to mention
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                    • #11
                      so im not sure if I missed something, but did you make this all up yourself? I mean obviously it would be great but let's be honest none of this will even happen hahaha At best we get Chevis Jackson out of all those players there. Sorry im just being realistic

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lionsfan81 View Post
                        so im not sure if I missed something, but did you make this all up yourself? I mean obviously it would be great but let's be honest none of this will even happen hahaha At best we get Chevis Jackson out of all those players there. Sorry im just being realistic
                        It's called a mock draft. Welcome to the forums, ha.

                        And yeah, I know all this wouldn't happen in real life. I wish though.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Prowler View Post
                          i'm with you guys who drafted everybody
                          Thank you very much.


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                          • #14
                            Good draft, would please many. How we got number four puzzles me somewhat.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Addict View Post
                              Good draft, would please many. How we got number four puzzles me somewhat.
                              Trading Roy and Rogers got us 3. But then the trade up to #4 fell into our lap and we thought he had to take it since it was great value.


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