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  • #16
    Originally posted by 5 Fingers of Death View Post
    I've been listening to 97.1 from California for one year off my I phone. Valenti has a lot of sports knowledge but he is an unhappy person who needs some emotional counseling. I can see where most of the guys from 97.1 are coming from. Build up the defense and the lines before you get your tight ends and receivers. I can't argue with that. But this year we picked up a franchise QB who needs to have weapons for him to throw to. I just wished we could of gotten a offensive guard like Duke Robinson or Kraig Urbick to help with the run game.

    I think these guys are too negative and need to lighten up some. Most fans on these forums do agree this draft was not off bad grading it out to be a least a B.

    I'm looking forward to the next season.
    Sometimes I think these guys are this opinionated to appeal to all the negative fans. The rest of the time I think they're just irrational.

    I question the decision-making of the people who run that station for allowing all of their radio personalities to express an identical opinion. Leaves no room for debate or variety. I'm glad the draft is over for the sake of having to listen to that station.
    R.I.P. L.E.F.
    "I am the one who knocks!"

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    • #17
      Why I love having Sirius so much. I can listen to NFL radio and get informed opinions from guys like Pat Kirwan and Gil Brandt instead of the local morons.



      Originally posted by Jakey
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      i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 5 Fingers of Death View Post
        Build up the defense and the lines before you get your tight ends and receivers.
        To a certain extent though.. Maybe they had Pettigrew rated as the 10th best player in the draft and Oher as a 2nd Rounder. Should they have taken Oher just because he was a Left Tackle and Pettigrew was a TE?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
          To a certain extent though.. Maybe they had Pettigrew rated as the 10th best player in the draft and Oher as a 2nd Rounder. Should they have taken Oher just because he was a Left Tackle and Pettigrew was a TE?
          Why does the team have to be built with any specific parameters or proportions? I always hear "build the defense," "build the line," "get the core positons (QB, LT, DE)" . . . JUST TAKE BPA! And that's what they did.
          R.I.P. L.E.F.
          "I am the one who knocks!"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
            Why does the team have to be built with any specific parameters or proportions? I always hear "build the defense," "build the line," "get the core positons (QB, LT, DE)" . . . JUST TAKE BPA! And that's what they did.
            To me the only rule is if you don't have a franchise QB and you have a shot at one, take him (if you grade him as one, of course). Otherwise, I'm a BPA guy as well. I was a little upset at the Pettigrew pick at first, but once I thought about it for a bit, I loved it. I'm quite happy with this draft. The local morons are reactionary, overreacting goofballs.



            Originally posted by Jakey
            WWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

            i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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            • #21
              I think i figured it out. When you live in the box (Detroit), you can't think outside the box. Mike and most of Detroit of lived through years of anguish and misery with such a bad defense that they can't think of anything else except how to fix the defense. Me, when i watch their games i see that both the Lions defense and offense were equally bad. I don't mind the draft as much because at least we can improve in our offense and still mad small dent in our defense. These guys dismiss Hill just because he went to Stillman. They dismiss Delmas and the linebackers we drafted. Their viewpoints are really single minded thinking inside the box.

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              • #22
                I don't view the offense and defense as seperate entities.
                R.I.P. L.E.F.
                "I am the one who knocks!"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 5 Fingers of Death View Post
                  These guys dismiss Hill just because he went to Stillman.
                  Yeah, because nobody that went to a small school has ever done anything in the NFL...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
                    Yeah, because nobody that went to a small school has ever done anything in the NFL...
                    Who is Terrell Owens? Jerry Rice? THEY'RE BUMS! THAT'S WHO!
                    R.I.P. L.E.F.
                    "I am the one who knocks!"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 5 Fingers of Death View Post
                      I think i figured it out. When you live in the box (Detroit), you can't think outside the box. Mike and most of Detroit of lived through years of anguish and misery with such a bad defense that they can't think of anything else except how to fix the defense. Me, when i watch their games i see that both the Lions defense and offense were equally bad. I don't mind the draft as much because at least we can improve in our offense and still mad small dent in our defense. These guys dismiss Hill just because he went to Stillman. They dismiss Delmas and the linebackers we drafted. Their viewpoints are really single minded thinking inside the box.
                      um no, for the record everyone liked the Delmas pick. Heres the problem when Detroit drafts, we simply can not trust these guys to draft players. Year in and year out, we draft busts and always skip the playmakers. We draft high on skill positions when so many glaring needs are ignored. then in the late 3rd or 4th round we always get those "project players". This year was no different. We took a TE instead of a great looking LT or pass rushing DT.

                      Lets take a look at what wins you games, the best TE in the game, Tony Gonzales or the best DT in the game, Albert Haynesworth...Easy, the DT. Why? Because without a pass rush or someone who can stop the run, you will not win in the NFL. It's so simple and the Lions just can't get it right. I dont want to hear that Pettigrew is the best TE in his class, the point is we missed an opportunity to get great value for a player in the trenches, but we skipped it yet again.

                      Then we reached for an OLB projected to go in round 6 with our 3rd pick, a KR that we could have gotten in the 4th round in a player named DJ Moore. A project player in the DT Lee. A runningback in the 6th that will be cut next year. We got ANOTHER TIGHT END

                      just overall a terrible draft. Anyone who likes this is blind or you're such a homer that you can't see this front office is filled with morons. I'll remember this draft in 3 years and how you guys all "loved" it when we'll have 2 player left from the squad and that will be Stafford(because of his huge contract) and either Delmas or Pettigrew
                      Last edited by LOLitsTomBrady; 04-28-2009, 01:57 AM.

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                      • #26
                        And you're the enlightened one because you don't like it?

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                        • #27
                          Um, you guys have Jim Schwartz.

                          Does this Valenti fellow know this?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TitanHope View Post
                            Um, you guys have Jim Schwartz.

                            Does this Valenti fellow know this?
                            Mike Valenti doesn't believe in coaching. He thinks the Pats just drafts talent and Bill Belicheck just calls smart plays.
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                            • #29
                              LOLitsTomBrady, I didn't love this draft. I liked his draft. I gave it a B-. I did wish we would of drafted Peria Jerry, but Sammie Lee Hill may turn out to be a stud. You're being way to negative here. What school did Jerry Rice go to? Mississippi Valley State. I don't know who this can be a "terrible draft" when you drafted a quarterback, tight end, and safety in can play for years to come.

                              Here again, Lions fan can help themselves to be too negative. Lighten up some. I know the economy and everything is tough in Michigan, but you don't have to act like everything the Lions do is negative. If Stafford turns out to be half way decent, this draft is automatically a B+.
                              Last edited by 5 Fingers of Death; 04-28-2009, 05:39 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by LOLitsTomBrady View Post
                                um no, for the record everyone liked the Delmas pick. Heres the problem when Detroit drafts, we simply can not trust these guys to draft players. Year in and year out, we draft busts and always skip the playmakers. We draft high on skill positions when so many glaring needs are ignored. then in the late 3rd or 4th round we always get those "project players". This year was no different. We took a TE instead of a great looking LT or pass rushing DT.

                                Lets take a look at what wins you games, the best TE in the game, Tony Gonzales or the best DT in the game, Albert Haynesworth...Easy, the DT. Why? Because without a pass rush or someone who can stop the run, you will not win in the NFL. It's so simple and the Lions just can't get it right. I dont want to hear that Pettigrew is the best TE in his class, the point is we missed an opportunity to get great value for a player in the trenches, but we skipped it yet again.

                                Then we reached for an OLB projected to go in round 6 with our 3rd pick, a KR that we could have gotten in the 4th round in a player named DJ Moore. A project player in the DT Lee. A runningback in the 6th that will be cut next year. We got ANOTHER TIGHT END

                                just overall a terrible draft. Anyone who likes this is blind or you're such a homer that you can't see this front office is filled with morons. I'll remember this draft in 3 years and how you guys all "loved" it when we'll have 2 player left from the squad and that will be Stafford(because of his huge contract) and either Delmas or Pettigrew
                                Wow, I never thought that I would be driven away from this website but I think you are doing the job. THE TRENCHES!?!?! What is this WWI, get a clue. Teams are built by acquiring talent, would you rather have the best TE or the 4th best T. Obviously you would rather take the 4th best guy at a position. Teams like the Pats, Colts, and Giants could care less where a guy plays, rather can he help win games. It doesn't matter the position if a player can make plays they take him and find a spot for him. The Patriots took TWO TE's in 3 years at one point, oh what blasphemy.


                                As for what wins games. The best TE alone will not win games but it is a step in the right direction offensively, look at the two teams who were in the Super Bowl. They had multiple options on offense. The Cardinals had multiple wide recievers, while Pittsburgh had a TE to go along with their wideouts. This is something the Lions did not have last year. If Calvin couldn't get open it was over. People like you are only talking about how terrible the defense was last year, well look at the offense. We held Minnesota to 12 points and lost because we scored only 10, and that bastard Orlovsky ran out of the back of the endzone giving them 2 of their 12. This team could have great TRENCHES and with out talent at the skill positions on offense they will never win any substantial amount of games.


                                Shouldn't you give Schwartz the benefit of the doubt regarding all these "projects?" Look at Cortland Finnegan, he was a 7th round pick and he went to the Pro-Bowl this year. Stephen Tulloch was named starting MLB eight games into the season after being picked in the 4th round in 2006. (And by the way he is listed at 235, man that seems kind of small for a MLB. HA HA!) So again I tell you, stop thinking you understand schemes and personnel better than him and Gunther. Hell, Schwartz was a scout under the best personnel guy in the league in many peoples opinion, Bill Belicheck. These guys know defense better than Rod did and better than Millen did and far better than you do.


                                GO LIONS!!

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