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  • #31
    How about Our 1st, 3rd this year our 2nd and 4th next year and Suggs?
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    • #32
      No one is untouchable. If someone came with the right deal, then yes you have to do it.

      The absolute floor would be something that beats the Roy Williams deal, and you can go up from there. Three picks at least.

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      • #33
        You would be fools to even consider this. He is the definition of elite. He can make an offense go by himself. Not to mention you'd be leaving Stafford pretty lonely.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by umphrey View Post
          You would be fools to even consider this. He is the definition of elite. He can make an offense go by himself. Not to mention you'd be leaving Stafford pretty lonely.
          Yeah, but if a team offered us a package of four or five picks you'd have to take it. If you can draft a receiver who is half as good as Calvin and fill three or four other needs, why is that foolish? No one is suggesting that we just give him away, just that you listen if someone is going to try and overwhelm you.

          The Lions aren't going to be competing for the NFC North next year and probably not the season after that. By the time the Lions are a competitive team, Calvin will be in the final year of his contract and will be looking for not only big money, but a chance at a Super Bowl ring.

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          • #35
            It was suggested this evening on FM sports talk radio to trade megatron to a team "on the cusp of contention" for their #1 & #2 this year & #3 in 2011. (approx the #15 pick was the example, using McShay's mock draft) our picks looked like this per the shock jocks quick analysis:

            1a (#4) Derrick Morgan DE Ga Tech
            1b (#15) Taylor Mays S USC
            2a (#36) Terrence Cody NT Bama
            2b (#47) Brandon Graham DE U of M
            3 (#68) Toby Gerhart RB Stanford

            The arguments were 1) Calvin will require almost an 80 million dollar contract come 2011. 2) Teams do not build around WR's that only get 5 touches a game (plenty of starters around the league found in rd 4-6) 3) it would allow us to get young defensive talent quickly, building around our nucleus of Delmas, Hill & Levy & 4) the last 10 Super Bowl champions have had a top 10 defense, trust the new mgt to build on that side of the ball.

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            • #36
              We haven't even seen Calvin reach his full potential yet. He hasn't had an offensive line or running game since we've drafted him, and you can debate the quarterback play. His stats are still waiting to explode.

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              • #37
                I agree with P-L, it has to start with 2 1st at minimum, and some extra mid round picks with a solid player. It could be franchise changing, but at the same time think about how devastating that would be if you ended up blowing most of the picks you got in return. It's a possibility.


                I'd probably want to keep him, but if you shopped him someone would overpay, and it would definately have to be a Ricky Williams type trade. I can see alot of owners being greedy and over paying which could really turn the franchise around if you make the most of those picks.


                It's risky because he's probably the most talented WR in the league, I'd rather just rebuild with what you have because him and Stafford could be really great together.





                Originally posted by Scott Wright
                I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                • #38
                  Cowboys will trade Roy Willie straight up. That's the Lions WR we MEANT to get :/.

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                  • #39
                    You're not going to get a good player, two 1sts, and a 2nd for CJ.

                    I think a 1st, 2nd, 5th, and next years 2nd would be a lot to give up. Its not like he is a franchise QB like Cutler. Just my opinion though, Im not a GM.

                    Also, look how much Jason Peters went for. He is a franchise LT.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by superman8456 View Post
                      You're not going to get a good player, two 1sts, and a 2nd for CJ.

                      I think a 1st, 2nd, 5th, and next years 2nd would be a lot to give up. Its not like he is a franchise QB like Cutler. Just my opinion though, Im not a GM.

                      Also, look how much Jason Peters went for. He is a franchise LT.
                      Jason Peters was playing like crap and coming off an injury.
                      Last edited by Scotty D; 12-16-2009, 08:30 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by superman8456 View Post
                        You're not going to get a good player, two 1sts, and a 2nd for CJ.
                        And you know this because?


                        Don't under estimate what an impulse owner will do with guys like Daniel Snyder around. He was willing to give up 2 1st for Chad and he was over 30 years old. You mean to tell me someone wouldn't give up a solid player and another 2nd? I don't think it's all that hard to fathom.





                        Originally posted by Scott Wright
                        I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Scotty D View Post
                          Jason Peter's was playing like crap and coming off an injury.
                          Alright, but 1st and 4th with conditional 6th for a Pro-Bowl franchise LT.

                          Calvin Johnson is an extremely talented player, but he is a WR. Two 1st rounders is a huge pricetag. Depending on who you ask it may or may not be worth it.

                          Personally, I dont think any NFL team would be willing to trade two 1st rounders for a WR. Only team that I can think of even coming close to doing that is the Jets, and they have bigger needs elsewhere.

                          Not to mention that Julio Jones, AJ Green, Danario Alexander, Michael Floyd, etc, etc are all going to be in the upcoming drafts.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by superman8456 View Post
                            Alright, but 1st and 4th with conditional 6th for a Pro-Bowl franchise LT.

                            Calvin Johnson is an extremely talented player, but he is a WR. Two 1st rounders is a huge pricetag. Depending on who you ask it may or may not be worth it.

                            Personally, I dont think any NFL team would be willing to trade two 1st rounders for a WR. Only team that I can think of even coming close to doing that is the Jets, and they have bigger needs elsewhere.

                            Not to mention that Julio Jones, AJ Green, Danario Alexander, Michael Floyd, etc, etc are all going to be in the upcoming drafts.
                            You are ignoring the fact that Calvin is a FREAK OF NATURE

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by superman8456 View Post
                              You're not going to get a good player, two 1sts, and a 2nd for CJ.
                              For someone like Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald (if it were economically feasible for the Cardinals) or Andre Johnson if he were a year or two younger, I'd give that up gladly.

                              Everything you want in a WR and unlike guys such as Terrell Owens or Randy Moss, nothing you don't.

                              And I'll take that one step further. I'm a Jets fan, but if I were a fan of any team except perhaps the Saints, Patriots, Packers, Vikings, Colts or Cardinals, I'd want my team to do that.
                              Last edited by Crickett; 12-16-2009, 08:41 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                                I agree with P-L, it has to start with 2 1st at minimum, and some extra mid round picks with a solid player. It could be franchise changing, but at the same time think about how devastating that would be if you ended up blowing most of the picks you got in return. It's a possibility.


                                I'd probably want to keep him, but if you shopped him someone would overpay, and it would definately have to be a Ricky Williams type trade. I can see alot of owners being greedy and over paying which could really turn the franchise around if you make the most of those picks.


                                It's risky because he's probably the most talented WR in the league, I'd rather just rebuild with what you have because him and Stafford could be really great together.
                                I am a die hard Lions fan ... love me some CJ too ... but come on, he is arguably not even the most talented Johnson receiver in the league! ;o) Andre in Houston would have something to say about that, Larry Fitzgerald as well.

                                Maybe CJ is due to bust out but he has had only 1 solid year statistically, last year and that was on an 0-16 team where plenty of those yds/TD's came in garbage minutes when behind 24-3 playing catch up. Without looking it up name me Andre Johnson #2 & #3 WR's in Houston? They get him the ball. He's productive. I'm just saying ...

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