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  • Rogers to denver for Al wilson???

    http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/...un_rogers.html


    i keep hearing rumors with Al wilson being shopped and that the lions are interested now Rogers is rumored to be on the block and that the broncos are interested. Is there a deal including these two players in the works?

  • #2
    I don't want Al Wilson.. Sorry. I'd trade Big Baby for #21 overall though.

    We could still trade down to #5 and take Gaines Adams.. and then package #21 and our Round 2 (1360 Points) to the Dolphins (1350) or Texans (1300) to take Patrick Willis.. and still have a Round 2 pick to spare!
    Last edited by WMD; 03-25-2007, 11:07 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
      I don't want Al Wilson.. Sorry. I'd trade Big Baby for #21 overall though.

      We could still trade down to #5 and take Gaines Adams.. and then package #21 and our Round 2 (1360 Points) to the Dolphins (1350) or Texans (1300) to take Patrick Willis.. and still have a Round 2 pick to spare!
      Yeah, this would be amazing. I doubt Denver would do it though.
      R.I.P. L.E.F.
      "I am the one who knocks!"

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      • #4
        You guys to know Al Wilson failed a physical with the Giants? He may be damaged goods.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lions WMD View Post
          I don't want Al Wilson.. Sorry. I'd trade Big Baby for #21 overall though.

          We could still trade down to #5 and take Gaines Adams.. and then package #21 and our Round 2 (1360 Points) to the Dolphins (1350) or Texans (1300) to take Patrick Willis.. and still have a Round 2 pick to spare!
          Exactly. A week ago, I wanted Al Wilson. After hearing that he failed his physical (and he is getting up there in age), I'd rather have their 1st (or even 2nd and 3rd). If we did trade for a MLB, I'd prefer Vilma at this point.

          Taking Gaines Adams and grabbing Willis later in the 1st would be amazing... but I think I'd rather have Landry/Willis and take Spencer/Abiamiri in round 2.

          Either way, I'm happy.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TacticaLion View Post
            Exactly. A week ago, I wanted Al Wilson. After hearing that he failed his physical (and he is getting up there in age), I'd rather have their 1st (or even 2nd and 3rd). If we did trade for a MLB, I'd prefer Vilma at this point.

            Taking Gaines Adams and grabbing Willis later in the 1st would be amazing... but I think I'd rather have Landry/Willis and take Spencer/Abiamiri in round 2.

            Either way, I'm happy.
            This would be a GREAT situation..i'd be happy either way as well. But I want no part of Wilson now. What I read was, the neck injury from the Seattle game is what caused him ti fail his physical. You could get alot more for Shaun Rogers than just Al Wilson..now Shaun Rogers for Champ Bailey..i'd listen:)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DeMonikk1 View Post
              This would be a GREAT situation..i'd be happy either way as well. But I want no part of Wilson now. What I read was, the neck injury from the Seattle game is what caused him ti fail his physical. You could get alot more for Shaun Rogers than just Al Wilson..now Shaun Rogers for Champ Bailey..i'd listen:)
              Haha. I don't think they'd trade Champ... I don't think anyone would.

              Yea. I'm done with wanting Wilson... but I still want to trade SRogers.
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              • #8
                I dont think we can get a first for big baby this year, he sat out a good portion of the year and when he had a chance to come back he didnt. Teams realize how good he is im sure, but he has been known to have a sub-par work ethic and is probably overweight.

                Id say we hang on to him for another year and if he is as productive as he has been then we trade him and get a first.

                fenikz

                "Pride comes before the fall" - Mark Dantonio

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by asmitty45 View Post
                  I dont think we can get a first for big baby this year, he sat out a good portion of the year and when he had a chance to come back he didnt. Teams realize how good he is im sure, but he has been known to have a sub-par work ethic and is probably overweight.

                  Id say we hang on to him for another year and if he is as productive as he has been then we trade him and get a first.
                  I think I'd even trade him for a 2nd... a 2nd is still a quality player.

                  Marinelli knows how talented he is... but I don't think he'll stand for a negative influence in the locker room.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TacticaLion View Post
                    I think I'd even trade him for a 2nd... a 2nd is still a quality player.

                    Marinelli knows how talented he is... but I don't think he'll stand for a negative influence in the locker room.
                    I was thinking that as well..a team like Tampa may love to get him considering how weak they are at DT. Getting their early 2nd would be like acquiring another 1st rounder..and then they could look at a guy like Tank Tyler, Brandon Mebane or whoever to replace him in the 3rd while addressing another pressing need.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DeMonikk1 View Post
                      I was thinking that as well..a team like Tampa may love to get him considering how weak they are at DT. Getting their early 2nd would be like acquiring another 1st rounder..and then they could look at a guy like Tank Tyler, Brandon Mebane or whoever to replace him in the 3rd while addressing another pressing need.
                      Yep. Definately. He can go for a 2nd for sure... and tha'd be a great pick for us.

                      If we traded him for a 2nd round pick... and traded down and grabbed Willis... that would leave us with 3 2nd round picks... which is amazing. More than enough ammo to move back into round 1 and grab another solid player (or, draft Landry in the first place and trade back up for Willis).
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TacticaLion View Post
                        Yep. Definately. He can go for a 2nd for sure... and tha'd be a great pick for us.

                        If we traded him for a 2nd round pick... and traded down and grabbed Willis... that would leave us with 3 2nd round picks... which is amazing. More than enough ammo to move back into round 1 and grab another solid player (or, draft Landry in the first place and trade back up for Willis).

                        man, could you imagine walking out of the draft with Landry AND Willis??? I know it's a fantasy but still.. I mean seriously, take a minute and ponder that. it would almost be as great as seeing Scarlett Johannson butt-naked in my bed.. Everything after that would be the icing on the cake..

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                        • #13
                          I was listening to the radio guys, and I heard there are a couple of things

                          - Rogers signed a 6 year deal, with 4 years still remaining
                          - In that deal, he got a $15M signing bonus

                          So if they trade him today:
                          -The Lions will have to take a $10M cap hit this year. (15M signing bonus / 6 yrs, and 4 yrs still left)

                          But if they can get the other team to pick up his signing bonus, we will be on the hook for whatever amount the team picks up subtracted by $10M.

                          The more money (signing bonus) you ask the other team to pick up, the less they'll give up in return.
                          Last edited by Bootland27; 03-26-2007, 05:09 PM.

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                          • #14
                            great point and if Rogers is gone, who is going to take his place in the starting lineup, Cody? I really don't believe that Cody is going to amount to anything.

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                            • #15
                              I don't think the Lions can afford to get rid of Rogers even if they really wanted to, not this year. Hall and Bly could go, they were key players in name only, not true stars in my opinion. Rogers is a true star, or at least he could and should be. Then there's the cap hit.

                              News comes today that he showed up in Allen Park after a week of staying away, so that's a step in the right direction, now it's up to Marinelli and Barry to get him on board the train. Here's hoping they can do it because the Lions with a producing Rogers are better than the Lions with whatever they would have gotten for him.

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