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  • Why Detroit should draft Quinn!!

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10131489

    It is very interesting that the 3 teams drafting 1, 2 and 3 have all refused to draft a QB in round 1 for the last 3 or 4 years. It will be very interesting to see which of these teams have learned their lessons.
    And proud of it!!!

  • #2
    I don't think Martz' offense needs a top tier QB to succeed. He can mold a QB with enough talent to get by to become a 3500 yard passer. Plus, the QBs in the next class will provide 4 QBs better than Quinn or Russell.


    Originally posted by supermario86
    Stanton will be a pro bowler his 5th year book it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Newbs24 View Post
      I don't think Martz' offense needs a top tier QB to succeed. He can mold a QB with enough talent to get by to become a 3500 yard passer. Plus, the QBs in the next class will provide 4 QBs better than Quinn or Russell.
      Totally agree, The top of next years draft is loaded with QB's (Brohm, Henne, JDBooty, Eric Ainge) So if we can get an 08 first next year then we should wait and take the QB of our choice next year.

      fenikz

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      • #4
        Kirwan has said we should take Quinn from day 1 this offseason. He is all about QB maybe because when he was with the Jets during their 1-15 season they didn't have a "franchise QB". Kirwan was the lead personnel man on a 1-15 team so I don't look into his ideas that much.

        Yes we could have had Big Ben in 2004 but we needed Roy especially with Rogers injury and the fact we traded down and still got Roy was huge. Plus we were full force into the Joey experiment. 2005 was a huge mistake with WR but the best QBs left were Aaron Rodger and Jason Campbell. Rodgers has yet to prove anything and dropped like a rock on draft day with the Joey experiment still going on and Campbell was supposed to be a late first rounder all the way. We were looking at corner in 2005, but three were take ahead of us, we should have taken Johnson but Millen made his infamous 3rd WR pick. Last year, we could have taken a QB but we just signed Kitna and McCown via free agency and got Martz who is known to have later round QBs become successful. Leinart and Cutler probably will be good, but it's too soon to break out their busts for Canton. They only have half a year each. Broncos went 2-7, and the Cardinals were around .500 under Leinart. I think they'll both be good, but with the additions of Kitna and McCown before anyone knew Leinart would drop in the draft or that Cutler would rise on so many boards. I don't blame us for not taking a QB the last 3 years.

        As for 2007, it might not be a bad idea if we are stuck at 2. However, given that we could trade out of the pick and get many more picks that seems like a better option considering all our holes on defense. We lost last year because of defense and poor O-line play leading to a poor running game. Injuries on both lines didn't help either. Plus we still have Martz and Kitna coming off a great year so we don't need a QB in the short-term. There will be "franchise" Qb's next year as there is every year. Who knows if they will be better than Quinn, Quinn might be good but there is no proof that Quinn will have a better career than even Joey Harrington.

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        • #5
          Yeah, Martz can make a superstar out of a 6th round pick, but imagine what he can do with a #2 overall pick, he would be a super-super star. lol

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          • #6
            yea so if next years draft is so stacked, we should pull off the trades this year that gives us 1st round additions next year as well.

            that would be the best

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            • #7
              Brady Harrington


              Joey with bigger guns imo

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              • #8
                agree with what others posted and that both russell and quinn are risky picks. russell doesnt seem like he has a lot of desire and quinn just looks limited - reminds me of harrington.

                unfortunate for the lions as its a position of great need. personally i think mccown should be given a chance as kitna is old and throws too many ints. last year's batch would have been good (young, leinart or cutler).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iKNOW View Post
                  agree with what others posted and that both russell and quinn are risky picks. russell doesnt seem like he has a lot of desire and quinn just looks limited - reminds me of harrington.

                  unfortunate for the lions as its a position of great need. personally i think mccown should be given a chance as kitna is old and throws too many ints. last year's batch would have been good (young, leinart or cutler).
                  McCown stinks. As for this article he's critisizing the Lions for not taking first round QB's while we had Harrington in devellopment. That's stupid.

                  Kitna throws INT's, yes, but we have other, more pressing needs to fill than QB, besides, next years QB class should be pretty solid.

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                  • #10
                    should we flood millens email with the - DONT TAKE A QB this year email spam attack?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Iamcanadian View Post
                      http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10131489

                      It is very interesting that the 3 teams drafting 1, 2 and 3 have all refused to draft a QB in round 1 for the last 3 or 4 years. It will be very interesting to see which of these teams have learned their lessons.
                      Cherry-picking data pains me. I'd argue teams 2 and 3 are drafting there because they DID grab a QB early in round 1.
                      The fact of the matter is the game is changing. If you look at the superbowl winners from the mid 80s through the 90s the QB list sounds like a hall-of-fame roll call. Elway, Montana, Young, Aikman, Favre...
                      The '00 list to me says you can get there w/ a hof QB (payton) or a loaded D or in the rams case a loaded offense. There are other ways, and in my opinion they're less risky. If I knew Russell or Quinn would be a hof Qb, then of course I'd go that route. Recent history tells us though that QB is a coin-flip.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mythos View Post
                        Cherry-picking data pains me. I'd argue teams 2 and 3 are drafting there because they DID grab a QB early in round 1.
                        The fact of the matter is the game is changing. If you look at the superbowl winners from the mid 80s through the 90s the QB list sounds like a hall-of-fame roll call. Elway, Montana, Young, Aikman, Favre...
                        The '00 list to me says you can get there w/ a hof QB (payton) or a loaded D or in the rams case a loaded offense. There are other ways, and in my opinion they're less risky. If I knew Russell or Quinn would be a hof Qb, then of course I'd go that route. Recent history tells us though that QB is a coin-flip.

                        i completely agree and i woul rather go thru defense this time around especially since our offense rly isn't all that bad with roy and some good rb's. I would like to take stanton give him a year behind Kitna and then let Dan O and Stanton battle it out I would have faith in either of those two to lead this offense and that is rly to only position we adress in this draft unless we are forced to take CJ but other then a QB i would rly like to build us this defense cuz in the end a good offense or not if you have a good defense you have a shot to win every game

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                        • #13
                          "if you have a good defense you have a shot to win every game"

                          ^exactly my thoughts.

                          If we take a QB in round 2, I'd hope it's w/ a pick acquired from trading down. We need at least 2 defensive starters from this draft.

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                          • #14
                            I believe the Lions need to trade down with Tampa, get and extra pick and then take Joe Thomas with the #4. This all assumes the Raiders take Russell at #1.

                            Backus isnt impressive and would do better at a different OL position. Its not a sexy pick but its a smart one.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mythos View Post
                              The fact of the matter is the game is changing. If you look at the superbowl winners from the mid 80s through the 90s the QB list sounds like a hall-of-fame roll call. Elway, Montana, Young, Aikman, Favre...
                              I'd argue that Brady and Manning are ahead of pace to put themselves squarely into that list. Franchise QB's can be found in 1 draft pick. Franchise defenses like the '00 ravens need a lot of picks to be home runs.

                              Franchise QB's also give you your only shot at multiple Super Bowls . . . none of those great defenses (85 Bears, 86 Ravens) won more than one Super Bowl. The Steelers won a few in the 70's with a great defense, but they also had Hall of Fame QB Terry Bradshaw at the helm.

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