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    http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/

    One draft expert believes its not such a good idea.

    Draft expert interviews: Nawrocki's sobering assessment of Lions
    Posted by Bill Emkow April 23, 2007 05:30AM
    Categories: NFL Draft

    In our third Lions draft interview series, Bob Gaunt talks with one of our favorite reporters in our annual series, Nolan Nawrocki of Pro Football Weekly. While he believes the Lions will take Gaines Adams with the No. 2 overall pick, he doesn't think it's a good idea. Not just because he admitted in interviews with teams that he's used marijuana.

    "I do think he grades out as a Top 5 pick, I think he's a very good pass rusher - an elite pass rusher, and as long as he can keep his focus he'll be a great defensive end at the pro level. My concerns, primarily, are his toughness, his ability to play the run, and character as well. I think all three lows are concerns to me...

    "Me personally, I'd feel uncomfortable drafting him in the Top 10. Having done a lot of homework on him for the past year, having studying the draft closely, but that's not to say there aren't a lot of decision-makers in this league that have a different risk tolerance level. I fully expect him to be a strong consideration for the Detroit Lions at No. 2, or No. 4, 5, or 6. Where ever they end up."

    So he wouldn't take him, and he admits he's likely in the minority. Why is he so hesitant about Adams? It's a combination of his concerns with the person and the failings of the Lions' front office. He even believes Rod Marinelli, whom he thinks is a good coach, will eventually fail as head coach because of the dysfunctional front office led mainly by Matt Millen.

    "It's the nature of the business. You've got to have the right decisions being made at the top, and until somebody comes in who can do that for the Detroit Lions, I don't see it getting any better."

    As for the draft, he says even if the Lions have a stellar draft day (which he doesn't think they'll do given their track record), they're at least two years away from being any good. Nawrocki also doesn't believe there will be any teams willing to trade up to No. 2. He believes there are more teams trying to move down than up.

    These are only short quotes of the lengthy explanations and analysis of Gaines Adams and the Lions' future. He also discusses the status of the NFC North and Josh McCown's future.

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    Interesting, ive never heard of this guy though. He really seems to hate on the lions, where are his alligiances? Is he a packers fan or who does he normally cover?

    I think he doesnt give gaines enough credit, there arent any major concerns with his attitude or else Marinelli wouldnt be looking at him at all, he doesnt stand for that kind of stuff.

    Good article though

    fenikz

    "Pride comes before the fall" - Mark Dantonio

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    • #3
      I am against taking Gaines Adams . . . I have had an epiphany today.
      R.I.P. L.E.F.
      "I am the one who knocks!"

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      • #4
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Xiomera
        Is Gaines Adams worthy of a top five selection, all things considered. I am becoming increasingly worried about Detroit selecting him after learning that he smoked pot, has been labeled by many as lazy, and for his inability to hold up in the run game. In your scouting report, one statement stands out for me . . . "Intelligence???"

        Bottom Line: Can a guy who is purely a pass rusher be worthy of such a high pick? And how big of a bust factor does he have?

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        Scott's reply:

        Great question!

        No, I don't think he is worth a Top 5 pick and based on talent he should never go ahead of guys like Quinn, Peterson, and Thomas. Need is king in the NFL these days though so it looks like he will go either #2 or #4 overall. I am really starting to think that the Lions might get stuck at #2 and have to take him there unless they are willing to take a lot less than the chart value from Tampa.
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        Some brand new insight from Scott himself . . .
        R.I.P. L.E.F.
        "I am the one who knocks!"

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        • #5
          How would the top 3 or 5 prospects be rated, on the defensive side of the ball??

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
            I am against taking Gaines Adams . . . I have had an epiphany today.
            I'm curious. What pushed you over the edge?!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mythos View Post
              I'm curious. What pushed you over the edge?!!
              It's really a combination of things. I have never been completely sold in him as the correct pick. I went along with things a bit because he is the best pass rusher and fits into a cover 2, but that doesn't make him a good choice.

              I am concerned about hearing that he is lazy and not the most intelliegent guy. And the fact that he smoked pot doesn't do anything to help his image in my mind.

              There are a lot of reasons. I just don't see him as worthy of a top 5 pick since he is not good against the run, and he has always reminded me of Kalimba pt. 2.
              R.I.P. L.E.F.
              "I am the one who knocks!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
                It's really a combination of things. I have never been completely sold in him as the correct pick. I went along with things a bit because he is the best pass rusher and fits into a cover 2, but that doesn't make him a good choice.

                I am concerned about hearing that he is lazy and not the most intelliegent guy. And the fact that he smoked pot doesn't do anything to help his image in my mind.

                There are a lot of reasons. I just don't see him as worthy of a top 5 pick since he is not good against the run, and he has always reminded me of Kalimba pt. 2.

                I don't know anything about the guy's off the field life, but there's gotta be plenty of stuff on tape that should be sending the red flags up. The first time I got to see the guy play was his junior year. There was talk that he might declare after his junior year, detroit needed a pass rusher .... so I spent a lot of time just watching him. I was double checking the roster when I got home b/c I couldn't believe that guy was the same guy I had read favorable things about. I would say on about 50% of the pass plays he would take a two step outside rush, get stoned and then just straighten up and separate and look to bat passes down. He never showed any of that relentless stuff that Freeney or Taylor show. Even less talented guys like Kampman and McCreary (and Hall a few yrs ago) show that relentless desire and it shows up in the stat column.

                This situation just has Millen bust special written all over it. Whatever it is about the environment in detroit that just brings this out it people + Millen's propensity for drafting bums = ....

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                • #9
                  I agree on Gaines Adams.. I just hope the coaching staff feels the same way.

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                  • #10
                    I just hope the Skins don't take Adams at the 6th spot, I want to see LaRon Landry or Okoye get taken by the skins. I dont think the Skins need a lazy player, and I dont think other teams do either...

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                    • #11
                      As for Lions trading to Tampa...they wouldn't get as much as they want for that pick, so that leaves the Lions in a very interesting position on draft day.

                      I'm looking forward to that number 2 pick.

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                      • #12
                        thank you everyone, finally iv'e been saying adams is kalimba all over again for a while. and just to prove my point, i did some research on the both of them a while back and they are very comparable heres what i found:

                        just to prove my point, lets take a trip down memory lane. gaines adams vs kalimba edwards-

                        Kalimba- 6-5 3/8, 265, 4.7
                        Gaines- 6-4 3/4 258 4.64

                        Kalimba positives-

                        Very good all-around athlete. Smooth and fluid for his size. Looks like he was built to rush the passer with excellent height and arms down to his knees. As a full-time end, should be able to carry 275-280 pounds when he is finished growing and filling in. Both quick off the ball and fast and has a second gear he can turn on when closing in on or chasing the quarterback or ballcarrier. Uses his hands well and can counter as a pass rusher and change directions when chasing the ball without much wasted motion. Edwards also looks like he can turn his hips OK when he drops off into coverage, but he will generally move up and play defensive end on passing downs.

                        Gaines Adams positives-

                        An outstanding athlete... Extremely quick and agile with very good speed... has a tremendous first step and a great burst to close...has very long arms and uses his hands well...has the frame to get bigger and develop physically...looks fluid while dropping into coverage...a terror in opponents backfields and just has a knack for getting the quarterback...productive and disruptive...versitale and also has the ability to play outside linebacker in the 3-4

                        kalimba negatives-

                        Coming off a knee injury. Did not make many big plays or really stand out as a senior before he was hurt. Does not have a great frame for growing. Is a little narrow and has thin bones. Lacks functional playing strength when he plays down and has a hard time shedding blocks if he does not win with his first move and the offensive lineman gets his hands on him. Could be ’tweener, and is a player who a team must have a plan for if he is to realize his potential in the NFL.

                        gaines negatives-

                        does not have the ideal weight you would look for and needs to add some weight...does not play the run nearly as well as the pass...needs to get stronger...can play with better pad level and leverage...struggles when blockers can lock on...might be a DE/OLB tweener...becomes somewhat one dimensional at times...will get overly aggressive and run himself out of plays

                        hmm sounds like kalimba all over again. I don't know about you guys, but i can't live with another kalimba, let alone one of them. And calling for us to select him in the first is absurd.......I DON'T WANT ANOTHER MARIJUANA SMOKER ON THIS TEAM!

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                        • #13
                          I couldn't possibly have single handedly turned everyone against Adams could I? lol
                          R.I.P. L.E.F.
                          "I am the one who knocks!"

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                          • #14
                            So you don't want Calvin Johnson either?? I don't care if he smokes weed or not. He's just too much like Kalimba Edwards to me..

                            I'd much much rather go DE in Round 2. A lot of you guys like Spencer, I'd rather go with Abiamiri.. DE in Round 2 is safer than the big risk in the Top 5.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
                              I couldn't possibly have single handedly turned everyone against Adams could I? lol
                              Not me.. I turned against him a little while ago.

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