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  • According to Peter King and Mort.....

    The best in the business believe that it wouldn't be shocking if they can trade down. But more likely than not the lions will be stuck at 2 according to those guys.

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    Originally posted by Bootland27 View Post
    The best in the business believe that it wouldn't be shocking if they can trade down. But more likely than not the lions will be stuck at 2 according to those guys.
    Bologna . . .
    R.I.P. L.E.F.
    "I am the one who knocks!"

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    • #3
      They re-played the interview which took place this morning.

      He claims that why would TB mortgage their picks to move up to get CJ and pay him an additional $3 mil per yr (the alleged difference in drafting from #2 and #4 slots) when there is a 50-50 shot at getting him at 4 anyways and a smaller cap number to boot.
      Last edited by Bootland27; 04-24-2007, 01:15 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bootland27 View Post
        They re-played the interview which took place this morning.

        He claims that why would TB mortgage their picks to move up to get CJ and pay him an additional $3 mil per yr (the alleged difference in drafting from #2 and #4 slots) when there is a 50-50 shot at getting him at 4 anyways and a smaller cap number to boot.
        I hear all kinds of reports from similar NFL experts, and they claim that CJ has no chance of being there at 4 and Tampa is delusional to think he would be.

        Someone will deal up. Detroit's top priority is dealing down. I think they will do it at all costs, whether its with Tampa or not.

        Detroit would accept considerably less than what the trade value chart says they deserve because moving down from 2 to 4 and getting anything is essentially free, considering he would be the pick at 2 or 4.

        Read Kowalski's blog from today, he discusses this.
        R.I.P. L.E.F.
        "I am the one who knocks!"

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        • #5
          Remember, King picked Detroit to win their Division last year so his football knowledge is very limited. If Tampa wants Johnson, the money won't matter and they won't risk Detroit trading with somebody else. That's the beauty of the 15 minute pressure cooker prior to the selection. Both teams are under the gun and a trade often occurs especially for a talent like Johnson. The pressure cooker almost guarantees that Detroit will receive equal compensation, the pressure on Tampa to accept a reasonable trade is intense as Detroit will say they have Atlanta on the other phone with a very firm offer. It will be take it or leave it Tampa and I think they take it. Millen isn't goingt to accept a trade without getting solid compensation, he's heard enough bad press and doesn't want to hear for another year how Tampa got the best of him. If pressed to the wall, He'll take Johnson which would satisfy Martz and live with the consequences.
          Last edited by Iamcanadian; 04-24-2007, 01:37 PM.
          And proud of it!!!

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          • #6
            Trading down in the first round is not easy, and it's WAY harder to trade down in the top 5. I would not be suprised to see Detroit stay at 2 and take Johnson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
              Trading down in the first round is not easy, and it's WAY harder to trade down in the top 5. I would not be suprised to see Detroit stay at 2 and take Johnson
              Thats basically what Mort said

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              • #8
                I have a feeling Detroit will do anything to trade down, even if it isn't perfect on the "value chart." So if Tampa Bay wants to risk losing him to Atlanta, or Washington, or whomever, then they will have to live with it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Xiomera View Post
                  I hear all kinds of reports from similar NFL experts, and they claim that CJ has no chance of being there at 4 and Tampa is delusional to think he would be.

                  Someone will deal up. Detroit's top priority is dealing down. I think they will do it at all costs, whether its with Tampa or not.

                  Detroit would accept considerably less than what the trade value chart says they deserve because moving down from 2 to 4 and getting anything is essentially free, considering he would be the pick at 2 or 4.

                  Read Kowalski's blog from today, he discusses this.
                  Now that I think of it, its the smart thing to do.

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                  • #10
                    We'll trade down regardless of what we get in return, i think we get a second and 3rd we'll move down. The value probably wont match the chart.

                    fenikz

                    "Pride comes before the fall" - Mark Dantonio

                    35-21

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                    • #11
                      I think we'll get an offer from both Atl and TB and one of them will make a very generous offer for him, the question is what if ATL offer is better than TB but Millen has decided that he wants either Adams or Thomas who won't be there at 8. What does Millen do, take the better offer and miss out on the player he wants or take less than a great offer and get the guy he's after?

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                      • #12
                        I wonder if this would work;

                        #8 (1400 points)
                        #39 (510 points)
                        #109 (76 points)
                        Houston's '08 2nd round pick (if counted as a mid-2nd pick, 400, give or take, points)

                        That would be a solid deal for Detroit, I think. It's probably more than Tampa Bay is willing to give up. Not to mention Arthur Blank is always eager to 'make a splash.'

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                        • #13
                          I think that would work, however I would guess that the Falcons would try to trade their own 2008 2nd instead of Houstons because ATL probably feels that they'll be better than Houston next year.

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                          • #14
                            John Clayton was on ESPN today

                            He said the Lions will draft Calvin Johnson at #2, if they don't get the offer that they want to trade down.

                            After the laughs and giggles from the other talking heads......Clayton said the Lions would try again to trade CJ after drafting him, but wouldn't be disappointed if they got stuck with him.

                            If Millen does what he has shown a propensity for doing--demanding more and more until the other team finally walks away, leaving Matt holding the bag because he pushed too much--I would buy this. You can't take Adams at 2, you certainly can't take Landry, and Leon Hall would get the Lions laughed out of the building.

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                            • #15
                              All I know; Petrino wants Vick to have more weapons, Blank wants Vick to have more weapons. Arthur Blank is prone to make flashy moves. Trading for a player of a need position, and a home town hero no less, would be a major victory for him.
                              Last edited by Shiver; 04-24-2007, 06:21 PM.

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