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  • With the Polians out in Indy, maybe they cut their losses with Hughes and TT can pick him up off the scrap heap. I'd still rather go there with the 1st rounder this year, but if Hughes could be picked up for cheap he'd be worth the gamble at this point.
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    • Originally posted by TimmG6376 View Post
      With the Polians out in Indy, maybe they cut their losses with Hughes and TT can pick him up off the scrap heap. I'd still rather go there with the 1st rounder this year, but if Hughes could be picked up for cheap he'd be worth the gamble at this point.
      If Hughes had served 2 years abroad for some Mormon missionary thing, I'd still have him ranked #1 for 34 OLB's right now.

      I really really want Jerry Hughes, and I worry that a new GM will make it harder to get Hughes.

      I'm still gonna contact Teddy on this one.

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      • Great write-up about the MVP Debate between Rodgers and the record-setting, red-hot Brees:

        http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012...ric-precedent/

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        • Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
          If Hughes had served 2 years abroad for some Mormon missionary thing, I'd still have him ranked #1 for 34 OLB's right now.

          I really really want Jerry Hughes, and I worry that a new GM will make it harder to get Hughes.

          I'm still gonna contact Teddy on this one.
          If anything I'd think a new GM is more likely to let go of guys he didn't pick. My concern with Hughes is that he hasn't shown anything. I know he was highly regarded coming out and didn't get drafted into the best situation for his skillset, but you'd think by now he'd have shown flashes of something. From what I see Indy fans saying that hasn't been the case.

          I'd be willing to take a shot on him as long as the cost was low. Worst case he's at least as good as the UDFAs we have there now.
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          • Said it a million times during the draft and I will say it again....Jerry Hughes is massively overrated. Guy just disappears in any film you watch of him. There is a reason he is on the bench and it is not that the guys in front of him a super stars or good players, it is because he is not that good. Hand down or stand up. He does have speed and a good motor but he really is not overly physical and not as willing to stick his nose in there. He wants to burn past the guy and if not, he is out of the play. He made some Mountain West OT's look foolish and slow but that hasn't and wont happen in NFL

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            • I don't know what it will take J-Mike to lose this man crush on him. All draft you were all over him and now have 2 years of really being as big of a bust a Neil (still early though) you are still all over him. It is not like they have not gave him opportunities to suceed as a 1st round pick, he has just hasn't wanted to show anything on the field to get out there.

              Maybe I am being too hard on him but I have not seen anything in college or NFL from him that gives me any sign of being successful. He just isn't physical enough.

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              • Scott Wells was a surprise DNP today. He was in attendance but did not participate. Hopefully just precautionary as that would be difficult to overcome.
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                • So it appears Brad Jones might get the chance to start at ROLB. Wouldn't that just be poetic? After struggling to stay healthy for so many seasons he gets his chance and runs with it to a SB title.
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                  • Originally posted by TimmG6376 View Post
                    So it appears Brad Jones might get the chance to start at ROLB. Wouldn't that just be poetic? After struggling to stay healthy for so many seasons he gets his chance and runs with it to a SB title.
                    As long as he plays well, and helps us win a ring, that would be awesome.
                    He, like Finley and Grant, are some of the hungry ones who didn't get to play in the big game yet.
                    Originally posted by RyanBraun8 View Post
                    I don't know what it will take J-Mike to lose this man crush on him. All draft you were all over him and now have 2 years of really being as big of a bust a Neil (still early though) you are still all over him. It is not like they have not gave him opportunities to suceed as a 1st round pick, he has just hasn't wanted to show anything on the field to get out there.

                    Maybe I am being too hard on him but I have not seen anything in college or NFL from him that gives me any sign of being successful. He just isn't physical enough.
                    Marshall Newhouse practiced against Hughes for 2 years and will tell you that Hughes is a beast.....
                    It's a totally different scheme, the 34 and 43.... Ask Aaron Kampman and Jared Allen.

                    Ted liked Hughes coming out.
                    McGinn & Gosselin's inside sources had it.......

                    James Harrison took a few years, and cuts, to get up to speed, but he was well worth the patience.

                    I think Kevin Greene could work wonders with the athlete that Hughes is and it appears we could get him for a discount at this point in time.

                    That's something that needs to be considered with these cast of characters we have at OLB.

                    Hughes/LaMarr Woodley Combine Measurables:

                    6-1 3/4 * 255 pounds/6-1 1/2 * 266 pounds (Woodley)

                    40 Yard Dash: 4.65 seconds/ 4.74 (Woodley)

                    20 Yard Dash: 2.63 seconds/ 2.72 (Wodley)

                    10 Yard Dash: 1.63 seconds/ 1.65 (Woodley)

                    Bench Press: 26 reps (225 lb)/ 29 (Woodley)

                    Vertical Leap: 34.5 inches/ 38.5 (Woodley, surprisingly high)

                    Broad Jump: 118 inches/ 117 inches (Woodley)

                    Shuttle: 4.15/ 4.42 (Woodley)

                    Three Cone: 6.99/ (Woodley DNR, Hughes # was great)

                    I'm not saying he will become James Harrison. That's a rare unique Cinderella story, like Warner.
                    But some guys take a little time to develop. Some take longer.


                    2002-2003

                    Harrison went undrafted in the 2002 NFL draft, hearing he was too short (six feet) to play linebacker, and too light (240 pounds) to play on the defensive line. A few teams did send him training camp invites. The Steelers signed Harrison as an undrafted rookie in 2002, making him the first Kent State alumnus to play at linebacker for the team since Hall of Famer Jack Lambert.

                    Harrison spent two years on and off the practice squad for the Steelers, being released three times, and was also briefly on the active roster towards the end of the 2002 season, playing only special teams. Teammate and fellow linebacker James Farrior later told NFL Network that Harrison was so green early on in his career that he would simply ‘«£give up‘«ō on plays he was struggling on and would even ask the coaches not to play him when he was struggling.

                    Farrior said, "He was a knucklehead that didn't know the plays. We'd be in practice, in training camp, and he might not know what he was doing so he'd just stop and throw his hands up and tell (the coaches) to get him out of there. We thought the guy was crazy."

                    He was signed by Baltimore in late 2003, then sent to the Rhein Fire of NFL Europe, but eventually cut by the Ravens. After being cut for a fourth time, Harrison considered not playing anymore.

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                    • Originally posted by TimmG6376 View Post
                      So it appears Brad Jones might get the chance to start at ROLB. Wouldn't that just be poetic? After struggling to stay healthy for so many seasons he gets his chance and runs with it to a SB title.
                      Not like it can really get worse, its like nobody is even there most plays. Hopefully he is ready to prove to everyone who basically kicked him to the curb.

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                      • Combine numbers are just numbers, mean absolutely nothing. Woodley has always been an animal. Run game, pass game and all. Hughes will make a sack and not be seen again. He is NOT EVEN CLOSE to be as physical as Woodley. Hughes would get destroyed in a one on one with Wood.

                        Originally in the draft i liked him but the more I watched the more I wanted nothing to do with him. We have guys who disappear already why make a move for another. We need a guy who brings a presence. Not just speed to run a circle around Marshell Newhouse in shorts at practice. If he was willing to get into someone, he wouldn't be looking like Jamal Reynolds right now with the Colts
                        Last edited by RyanBraun8; 01-05-2012, 09:44 AM.

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                        • Packers lost their Director of Football Ops Reggie McKenzie. Goin to Oakland to be their GM. Eliot Wolf(assistant director of player personnel) might also go to Oakland with him, but that isn't confirmed

                          McKenzie has been talked about as a potential GM for years so this day would come eventually. Never good to lose guys of this caliber at the top but he definitely derseves his chance to run a team. Wish him the best and glad he didn't end up in Chicago

                          John Dorsey, Director of college scouting seems like he may be the favorite to fill McKenzie's shoes as the new Director of Football Ops, but who knows.

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                          • Good news. Eliot Wolf isn't going with McKenzie to Oakland. Wolf will likely be promoted to Director of pro personnel

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                            • Originally posted by BloodBrother View Post
                              Good news. Eliot Wolf isn't going with McKenzie to Oakland. Wolf will likely be promoted to Director of pro personnel
                              That is good news, but I think even better news is that John Dorsey turned down a potential GM opportunity to stay. Me thinks between Dorsey and Wolf we will have our heir to the GM throne once TT calls it quits.


                              On a different note, TT has a lot of work to do this offseason with Wells, Finley, and Flynn.

                              I am really hoping that TT signs Wells to a 3-5 year deal and franchises Finley. I think the Packers will just let Flynn walk and get a comp pick in next years draft.

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                              • Originally posted by bigboiajhawk View Post
                                I am really hoping that TT signs Wells to a 3-5 year deal and franchises Finley. I think the Packers will just let Flynn walk and get a comp pick in next years draft.
                                He might, but I'd really be proud of him if he cashes in on Matt Flynn. A team rarely gets an opportunity like that, if ever. Hard to see it not utilized to the maximum.

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